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Weisbergkevin

(39 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:20 PM Feb 2012

What's being done to Romney was done to Gore (amplification of soundbites)

I think we should not complain when our candidates say something that gets cut off to one sentence. Al Gore invented the internet, said pundits and GOP'ers who didn't wanna discuss the wider context. It is now being done to Mitt Romney. who wants to repair whatever holes may be in the system regarding the very poor. But in the media, he does not care about the very poor. I disagree with Romney on 90% of his positions, but my point is: Let's not criticize the media when they do it to us. Not if we're hypocrites.

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What's being done to Romney was done to Gore (amplification of soundbites) (Original Post) Weisbergkevin Feb 2012 OP
Only 29 posts? You might want to get the number higher before joeybee12 Feb 2012 #1
the criticism I've seen has been honest Enrique Feb 2012 #2
WTF? RockaFowler Feb 2012 #3
Welcome to DU NNN0LHI Feb 2012 #4
Wah Wah Wah! alcibiades_mystery Feb 2012 #5
Awwww, are you concerned? backscatter712 Feb 2012 #6
"fix whatever holes may be in the system"...? Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #7
NO - Romney has big mouth syndrome liberal N proud Feb 2012 #8
Oh ProSense Feb 2012 #9
How stupid and disconnected countingbluecars Feb 2012 #10
Romney thinks the poor should just be thankful they were born in America subterranean Feb 2012 #11
lying repigs bongbong Feb 2012 #15
Post the whole quote zipplewrath Feb 2012 #12
One problem, Gore never said that he invented the internet. EOTE Feb 2012 #13
So....Romney "wants to repair klook Feb 2012 #14
Talking Points bongbong Feb 2012 #16
Fairness? Sheepshank Feb 2012 #17
Oh and to add..... Sheepshank Feb 2012 #19
"Us"? Right. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #18
Poor, poor Romney. It's not his fault. The media amplified the sound bite! Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #20
Oh Good Gawd HangOnKids Feb 2012 #21
The problem is that even in context, there is a problem with Romney's comment karynnj Feb 2012 #22
Remind me when Gore made comments on the back of the economically depressed... Earth_First Feb 2012 #23
What BULL! Romney took tape of Obama quoting McCain and proudly, falsely portrayed McCain's words jenmito Feb 2012 #24

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
2. the criticism I've seen has been honest
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:24 PM
Feb 2012

and substantial. In the full context it says a lot about him. I don't even think it was a gaffe, I think he is laying out his priorities (although he is lying about not caring about the rich, that's where his true priorities are).

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
3. WTF?
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:24 PM
Feb 2012


He said that he doesn't care about Poor People because they have a safety net. What safety net is that?? The one that Repukes keep trying to destroy?? Or the one that you have to jump through hoops to get?? Or the one that you can't get if you make just above the poverty line?? How about the poor people who are living without a net?? You know those people on the street. You know those people who are lost in society. He doesn't care about them either.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
7. "fix whatever holes may be in the system"...?
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:31 PM
Feb 2012

you must be kidding. Do you really believe this?

No matter how you spin Mr. Romney's statement, it's bad.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Oh
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:33 PM
Feb 2012
What's being done to Romney was done to Gore (amplification of soundbites)

I think we should not complain when our candidates say something that gets cut off to one sentence. Al Gore invented the internet, said pundits and GOP'ers who didn't wanna discuss the wider context. It is now being done to Mitt Romney. who wants to repair whatever holes may be in the system regarding the very poor. But in the media, he does not care about the very poor. I disagree with Romney on 90% of his positions, but my point is: Let's not criticize the media when they do it to us. Not if we're hypocrites.

...bullshit!


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You’ve got to take the whole sentence? Interesting. That rule did not apply when Romney personally approved an ad attacking Obama that lifted his words out of context in a hilariously dishonest way, implying that Obama said something about himself he’d actually attributed to a McCain adviser. The Romney campaign subsequently boasted about all the media attention the ad’s dishonesty earned.

Nor did Romney’s call for context apply when he blasted Obama for not believing in American exceptionalism by cherry-picking a line from an Obama speech in which the President actually did proclaim his belief that America is exceptional. Romney has a whole history of decontextualizing remarks.

By the way, it’s unlikely that Romney’s plea for context will do anything to quiet criticism of the gaffe, which is now being loudly voiced by conservatives, too. Erick Erickson, Jonah Goldberg and others on the right are all arguing that Romney has showcased his political ineptitude by offering Dems a comment that — even if taken out of context — plays perfectly into the Dem strategy of painting Romney as the candidate of the one percent. Not only that, but it’s also worth mentioning that in his comments, Romney confirmed that the Democratic Party does care about the poor.

Romney wasn’t really saying he doesn’t care about the poor, but the context still doesn’t help much. He seemed to be indicating that the plight of the poor isn’t all that worrisome because the safety net is doing such an adequate job in keeping them out of, well, poverty.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/romney-context-for-me-but-not-for-thee/2012/02/01/gIQAFh85hQ_blog.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop


Context via a RW site:

Mitt Romney: “I’m not concerned about the very poor; we have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I’ll fix it. I’m not concerned about the very rich, they’re doing just fine. I’m concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90 percent, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling, and I’ll continue to take that message across the nation.”

Soledad O’Brien: “I know I said last question. You said I’m not concerned about the very poor because they have a safety net. And I think there are lots of very poor Americans who are struggling who would say that sounds odd. Can you explain that?”

Mitt Romney: “Well, you had to finish the sentence, Soledad. I said I’m not concerned about the very poor that have the safety net, but if it has holes in it, I will repair them. The challenge right now — we will hear from the Democrat Party the plight of the poor. And there’s no question, it’s not good being poor, and we have a safety net to help those that are very poor. But my campaign is focused on middle income Americans. My campaign — you can choose where to focus. You can focus on the rich, that’s not my focus. You can focus on the very poor. That’s not my focus. My focus is on middle income Americans, retirees living on Social Security, people who can’t find work, folks that have kids getting ready to go to college. These are the people who have been most badly hurt during the Obama years. We have a very ample safety net, and we can talk about whether it needs to be strengthened or whether there are holes in it. But we have food stamps, we have Medicaid, we have housing vouchers, we have programs to help the poor.”

http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2012/02/01/mitt-romneys-very-poor-choice-of-words/

He's "not concerned about the very poor that have the safety net"

Romney is clueless.

Romney recently said making over $374,000 in speaking fees is "not very much" money. It followed Romney suggesting elected office is only for the rich, clumsily talking about his fondness for being able to fire people, demanding that talk of economic justice be limited to "quiet rooms," accusing those who care about income inequality of "envy," daring Rick Perry to accept a $10,000 bet, joking about being "unemployed," arguing that those who slip into poverty are still middle class, and suggesting that Americans should somehow feel sorry for poor banks.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002243282

countingbluecars

(4,766 posts)
10. How stupid and disconnected
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:34 PM
Feb 2012

is this guy to let the words "I'm not concerned about the very poor" come out of his mouth. The context doesn't really matter here.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
11. Romney thinks the poor should just be thankful they were born in America
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:40 PM
Feb 2012

(even if they weren't born here). He also thinks people should stop complaining about the growing income inequality in this country because that's class warfare, and as he said, "The success of some makes us all better off."

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
15. lying repigs
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:15 PM
Feb 2012

> as he said, "The success of some makes us all better off."

Another huge lie & Talking Point from the repigs. The global economy, as interconnected as it is, is now as much a zero-sum game as a poker game is. Mittens The Flip-Flopping Job Cremator knows this, but also knows that "feel-good" Talking Point lies are eaten up by the repig sheep. The Corporate Tools base all their beliefs on feelings and the lies that drug-addicted radio hosts tell them.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
12. Post the whole quote
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:46 PM
Feb 2012

See if it gets any better. I don't think it does. Yes, it gets different, but in the end the two quotes speak to the same nature of the candidate.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
13. One problem, Gore never said that he invented the internet.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:49 PM
Feb 2012

If people were actually quoting him, I wouldn't have had a problem. Romney is ACTUALLY being quoted. See the difference?

klook

(12,155 posts)
14. So....Romney "wants to repair
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:16 PM
Feb 2012

whatever holes may be in the system regarding the very poor."

Really? How, exactly, does Romney want to do that?? Please enlighten us, if you are here long enough.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
16. Talking Points
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:17 PM
Feb 2012

Did you get these Talking Points from the GOP Blast Fax, or are they using some other system to send lies to their drones?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
19. Oh and to add.....
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:23 PM
Feb 2012

The dismissive nature and tone of the comment could not really be rectified, by a qualification. Dismissing the poorest, most needy, do without, most wanting school districts, hunger, poor health, lowest educational scores, portion of the population as if they are taken care of (like the safe dog kennel on the roof of the car) is pretty assinine.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
22. The problem is that even in context, there is a problem with Romney's comment
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:34 PM
Feb 2012

The fact is most of the media accounts I heard played the full thing. Romney says he is for the 90 .. 95 percent who are neither poor or rich. That is the strangest - widest definition of the Middle Class I ever heard.

I agree that the amplification of comments out of context is pretty disgusting. I posted the same when it was a Grayson ad as when John Kerry was taken out of context. The Gore example you gave really doesn't work - Gore NEVER said he invented the internet. What he did do was to list as an accomplishment being the lead sponsor for legislation that funded the project that expanded the ARPA net into something that began to look like the internet - and where access was not limited to military/industrial companies and universities.

As to Romney, he supports the Ryan Plan's Medicare solution - that is putting a hole in the safety net, not removing one. Not to mention, his tax policies reduce revenue from income generated by investing capital - so, either it leads to more cuts or it leads greater debt or it leads to raising taxes on money made by investing your labor.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
23. Remind me when Gore made comments on the back of the economically depressed...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 03:36 PM
Feb 2012


Mittens is getting everything he deserves...

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
24. What BULL! Romney took tape of Obama quoting McCain and proudly, falsely portrayed McCain's words
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:16 PM
Feb 2012

as OBAMA'S. When confronted about him misrepresenting McCain's words (that Obama was quoting) as OBAMA'S words, he said, "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander" which made NO sense. Obama never portrayed Romney falsely, let alone making an ad of Romney quoting someone else then pretending the quote was Romney's words.

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