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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat's being done to Romney was done to Gore (amplification of soundbites)
I think we should not complain when our candidates say something that gets cut off to one sentence. Al Gore invented the internet, said pundits and GOP'ers who didn't wanna discuss the wider context. It is now being done to Mitt Romney. who wants to repair whatever holes may be in the system regarding the very poor. But in the media, he does not care about the very poor. I disagree with Romney on 90% of his positions, but my point is: Let's not criticize the media when they do it to us. Not if we're hypocrites.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)You give yourself away.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)and substantial. In the full context it says a lot about him. I don't even think it was a gaffe, I think he is laying out his priorities (although he is lying about not caring about the rich, that's where his true priorities are).
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)He said that he doesn't care about Poor People because they have a safety net. What safety net is that?? The one that Repukes keep trying to destroy?? Or the one that you have to jump through hoops to get?? Or the one that you can't get if you make just above the poverty line?? How about the poor people who are living without a net?? You know those people on the street. You know those people who are lost in society. He doesn't care about them either.
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Do you believe Romney does care about the poor?
Don
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)you must be kidding. Do you really believe this?
No matter how you spin Mr. Romney's statement, it's bad.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)His Freudean slips are revealing the TRUE Romeny!
Enjoy your visit
ProSense
(116,464 posts)I think we should not complain when our candidates say something that gets cut off to one sentence. Al Gore invented the internet, said pundits and GOP'ers who didn't wanna discuss the wider context. It is now being done to Mitt Romney. who wants to repair whatever holes may be in the system regarding the very poor. But in the media, he does not care about the very poor. I disagree with Romney on 90% of his positions, but my point is: Let's not criticize the media when they do it to us. Not if we're hypocrites.
...bullshit!
Youve got to take the whole sentence? Interesting. That rule did not apply when Romney personally approved an ad attacking Obama that lifted his words out of context in a hilariously dishonest way, implying that Obama said something about himself hed actually attributed to a McCain adviser. The Romney campaign subsequently boasted about all the media attention the ads dishonesty earned.
Nor did Romneys call for context apply when he blasted Obama for not believing in American exceptionalism by cherry-picking a line from an Obama speech in which the President actually did proclaim his belief that America is exceptional. Romney has a whole history of decontextualizing remarks.
By the way, its unlikely that Romneys plea for context will do anything to quiet criticism of the gaffe, which is now being loudly voiced by conservatives, too. Erick Erickson, Jonah Goldberg and others on the right are all arguing that Romney has showcased his political ineptitude by offering Dems a comment that even if taken out of context plays perfectly into the Dem strategy of painting Romney as the candidate of the one percent. Not only that, but its also worth mentioning that in his comments, Romney confirmed that the Democratic Party does care about the poor.
Romney wasnt really saying he doesnt care about the poor, but the context still doesnt help much. He seemed to be indicating that the plight of the poor isnt all that worrisome because the safety net is doing such an adequate job in keeping them out of, well, poverty.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/romney-context-for-me-but-not-for-thee/2012/02/01/gIQAFh85hQ_blog.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop
Context via a RW site:
Soledad OBrien: I know I said last question. You said Im not concerned about the very poor because they have a safety net. And I think there are lots of very poor Americans who are struggling who would say that sounds odd. Can you explain that?
Mitt Romney: Well, you had to finish the sentence, Soledad. I said Im not concerned about the very poor that have the safety net, but if it has holes in it, I will repair them. The challenge right now we will hear from the Democrat Party the plight of the poor. And theres no question, its not good being poor, and we have a safety net to help those that are very poor. But my campaign is focused on middle income Americans. My campaign you can choose where to focus. You can focus on the rich, thats not my focus. You can focus on the very poor. Thats not my focus. My focus is on middle income Americans, retirees living on Social Security, people who cant find work, folks that have kids getting ready to go to college. These are the people who have been most badly hurt during the Obama years. We have a very ample safety net, and we can talk about whether it needs to be strengthened or whether there are holes in it. But we have food stamps, we have Medicaid, we have housing vouchers, we have programs to help the poor.
http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2012/02/01/mitt-romneys-very-poor-choice-of-words/
He's "not concerned about the very poor that have the safety net"
Romney is clueless.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002243282
countingbluecars
(4,766 posts)is this guy to let the words "I'm not concerned about the very poor" come out of his mouth. The context doesn't really matter here.
subterranean
(3,427 posts)(even if they weren't born here). He also thinks people should stop complaining about the growing income inequality in this country because that's class warfare, and as he said, "The success of some makes us all better off."
bongbong
(5,436 posts)> as he said, "The success of some makes us all better off."
Another huge lie & Talking Point from the repigs. The global economy, as interconnected as it is, is now as much a zero-sum game as a poker game is. Mittens The Flip-Flopping Job Cremator knows this, but also knows that "feel-good" Talking Point lies are eaten up by the repig sheep. The Corporate Tools base all their beliefs on feelings and the lies that drug-addicted radio hosts tell them.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)See if it gets any better. I don't think it does. Yes, it gets different, but in the end the two quotes speak to the same nature of the candidate.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)If people were actually quoting him, I wouldn't have had a problem. Romney is ACTUALLY being quoted. See the difference?
klook
(12,155 posts)whatever holes may be in the system regarding the very poor."
Really? How, exactly, does Romney want to do that?? Please enlighten us, if you are here long enough.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)Did you get these Talking Points from the GOP Blast Fax, or are they using some other system to send lies to their drones?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)wow......as if.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)The dismissive nature and tone of the comment could not really be rectified, by a qualification. Dismissing the poorest, most needy, do without, most wanting school districts, hunger, poor health, lowest educational scores, portion of the population as if they are taken care of (like the safe dog kennel on the roof of the car) is pretty assinine.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Really? Fuck Mitt.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)The fact is most of the media accounts I heard played the full thing. Romney says he is for the 90 .. 95 percent who are neither poor or rich. That is the strangest - widest definition of the Middle Class I ever heard.
I agree that the amplification of comments out of context is pretty disgusting. I posted the same when it was a Grayson ad as when John Kerry was taken out of context. The Gore example you gave really doesn't work - Gore NEVER said he invented the internet. What he did do was to list as an accomplishment being the lead sponsor for legislation that funded the project that expanded the ARPA net into something that began to look like the internet - and where access was not limited to military/industrial companies and universities.
As to Romney, he supports the Ryan Plan's Medicare solution - that is putting a hole in the safety net, not removing one. Not to mention, his tax policies reduce revenue from income generated by investing capital - so, either it leads to more cuts or it leads greater debt or it leads to raising taxes on money made by investing your labor.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Mittens is getting everything he deserves...
jenmito
(37,326 posts)as OBAMA'S. When confronted about him misrepresenting McCain's words (that Obama was quoting) as OBAMA'S words, he said, "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander" which made NO sense. Obama never portrayed Romney falsely, let alone making an ad of Romney quoting someone else then pretending the quote was Romney's words.