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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:45 PM Mar 2013

instead of Apologizing CNN IS OUTRAGED By the BACKLASH Over Their PRO-RAPIST Coverage




Instead of apologizing or listening to the complaints that the network was soft on rapists due to their Steubenville rape convictions coverage, CNN is outraged and dismissive.

Today The Wrap reported:



Poppy Harlow, covering the events in Steubenville, particularly hard.
“Poppy is taking this extremely personally as a woman,” said one executive. “She’s outraged that someone would think she’d do such a thing” as slant her coverage toward rapists. “It’s gotten so out of control.”

http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/cnn-soft-rapists-steubenville-coverage-sparks-debate-81861?page=0,0



I don’t believe that Poppy Harlow, Candy Crowley, or CNN deliberately set about to apologize for rapists or minimize rape. But they did. The fact that they are so unaware of why this is a problem is exactly why they need to apologize. The problem here is that Harlow and CNN don’t understand why people are complaining. Harlow is outraged and CNN has brushed it off as not necessarily valid according to The Wrap, “CNN had no official comment, except to note privately that viral petitions sometimes have a life of their own and start ‘feeding on itself’ whether or not the issue is valid.”



The issue is very simple and very valid. We live in a “rape culture”. That is a culture where rape is excused and blown off, and the victim is silenced and/or smeared. Rape is excused and tolerated via the sometimes well meaning complicity of people who don’t know any better. That culture is being challenged by the very same social media that was used to broadcast the humiliating abuse of the victim. Guess which side won in the court of mainstream public opinion? Hint: It wasn’t the perpetrators.



And so CNN’s coverage was disturbing, as it fed the rape culture. Reporter Poppy Harlow stood outside the courtroom visibly distressed and lamented on air to Candy Crowley, “I’ve never experienced anything like it, Candy. It’s incredibly emotional, even for an outsider like me. These two young men, with promising futures, star football players, A students, literally watched as their lives fell apart.” No mention of how the victim’s life was torn apart and is forever tainted due to the video and pictures the rapists and their posse posted online. Candy Crowley didn’t help matters when she, too, failed to mention the victim.


The Wrap acknowledged:


Rather than balancing Harlow’s report, anchor Candy Crowley asked an expert about the rape conviction’s “lasting effect on two young men.” As critics pointed out, Crowley did not spare a word for the unnamed and unseen victim or the lasting effect on her.

Indeed, Crowley may regret qualifying the crime as “essentially rape.”




cont'




http://www.politicususa.com/cnns-poppy-harlow-outraged-stuebenville-rape-coverage-backlash.html
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instead of Apologizing CNN IS OUTRAGED By the BACKLASH Over Their PRO-RAPIST Coverage (Original Post) Segami Mar 2013 OP
OH FUCK CNN. I'm blocking those dumb motherfuckers. bettyellen Mar 2013 #1
I'm with you, bettyellen appacom Mar 2013 #55
Prior to today, I would very occasionally watch CNN lark Mar 2013 #68
Ditto! Little Star Mar 2013 #78
I'm with you, bettyellen Carolina Mar 2013 #79
It's fun having the first comment, LOL! bettyellen Mar 2013 #81
I'm with you. Oh, and K&R nt caseymoz Mar 2013 #102
... Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #2
CNN is a for profit entertainment outlet. Rex Mar 2013 #3
That's right.. Double down cnn. Tell all those people watching they're Cha Mar 2013 #4
YEP, hit 'em where it really hurts, the TILL drynberg Mar 2013 #83
YES! Also, it's not the first time cnn has screwed up BIG TIME.. they're in Cha Mar 2013 #85
On the plus side. progressoid Mar 2013 #5
I haven't watched CNN since that week in Oct 2003, when truedelphi Mar 2013 #7
What now? Z_I_Peevey Mar 2013 #31
I second the request for this clip, this would be very interesting. n/t yodermon Mar 2013 #69
Here is a link Re: Fetzer, another reporter who investigated truedelphi Mar 2013 #80
'Sorry the page you are looking for in this blog does not exist.' Z_I_Peevey Mar 2013 #87
Thanks for the link you provided. I think these points that were truedelphi Mar 2013 #101
Here is another reason to NOT watch CNN... Segami Mar 2013 #8
All part of CNN's move to the right to capture the eroding market share of FOX News. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #14
Well Hasselbeck is leaving the view and her husband got traded davidpdx Mar 2013 #50
Glenn Beck STARTED on CNN. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #62
That is her brother in law Matt that got traded MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #70
WOW, so even Fox News didn't want her? bullwinkle428 Mar 2013 #54
A reality TV star / Fashion designer / Gossip show co-host LiberalLovinLug Mar 2013 #67
CNN is out of touch, sheshe2 Mar 2013 #6
stinking pile of shit CNN Whisp Mar 2013 #9
ugh... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #10
I'm so sorry the sweet and mellow Poppy got her knickers all in a twist. Yeah, indepat Mar 2013 #11
I used to watch CNN in the morning to catch Soledad O'Brien chillfactor Mar 2013 #12
and I have personally 2naSalit Mar 2013 #21
Fuck CNN Zoeisright Mar 2013 #13
change the channel warrior1 Mar 2013 #15
Quite the brain trust they have there at CNN. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #16
that one always makes me smile... Whisp Mar 2013 #18
We can't let up on these ( your expression here ) olddots Mar 2013 #17
I hope people keep talking about this. redqueen Mar 2013 #19
I agree! Segami Mar 2013 #20
"essentially rape" = not "legitimate rape" n/t wryter2000 Mar 2013 #22
Yeh, I was stunned at that turn of phrase. "Essentially". Why it was so rapy, it was like real rape Bucky Mar 2013 #71
Solution EmeraldCity Mar 2013 #23
Welcome to DU wryter2000 Mar 2013 #24
I think it was because they were juveniles. Ilsa Mar 2013 #25
it all depends on who those 15 year olds are azurnoir Mar 2013 #28
"***cough*** ***cough*** backgrounds" redqueen Mar 2013 #29
+1 azurnoir Mar 2013 #35
so true La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #64
That first kid, when he apologized, wasn't all that upset. Bucky Mar 2013 #34
That was the icing on the cake- that kid didn't apologize ! bettyellen Mar 2013 #59
Fuck CNN! Webster Green Mar 2013 #26
Not even rightwingers are pro-rape (unless you count the environment) Bucky Mar 2013 #32
Yes They Are AndyTiedye Mar 2013 #90
Oh Andy, you're so silly when you revise history Bucky Mar 2013 #91
CNN, the Pro-Rape Network. nt valerief Mar 2013 #27
I think that's reserved for Adult Swim snooper2 Mar 2013 #45
Ah. Okay, then CNN: The Other Pro-Rape Network. nt valerief Mar 2013 #49
As I see it, CNN is the real victim in this whole Steubenville rape situation. Bucky Mar 2013 #30
Lots of backlash on her Facebook page! BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #33
She is rightfully getting a blasting earful on FB. Whisp Mar 2013 #72
CNN is as bad as Fox in their own way... YoungDemCA Mar 2013 #36
In some ways worse. They used to be respectible. Now they are Fox Lite. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #43
Maybe we need a reverse advertiser protest. obxhead Mar 2013 #37
It does and it has worked well in the past tavalon Mar 2013 #48
LOVE IT! Let's find out the Sunday sponsors then, and get links bettyellen Mar 2013 #74
Another petition from Credo Action. Isoldeblue Mar 2013 #38
What the fuck CNN? Apophis Mar 2013 #39
Boo-fucking-hoo Politicub Mar 2013 #40
Fuck CNN. n/t D23MIURG23 Mar 2013 #41
Also K&R D23MIURG23 Mar 2013 #42
Ted Turner must weep when he sees CNN DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #44
Time to target their advertisers tavalon Mar 2013 #46
Some people here are excellent at ferreting out the advertisers. tavalon Mar 2013 #47
They have been going downhill for awhile now davidpdx Mar 2013 #51
IMO: CNN SUCKS!!! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #52
CNN has fallen victim to its own need to say "both sides have a valid point" in all JoePhilly Mar 2013 #53
Exactly. They give equal credence to all sides, regardless of the facts. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #57
****DING DING DING POST OF THE THREAD**** uponit7771 Mar 2013 #86
CNN is propaganda, anyone dumb enough to care about them after years of lies just1voice Mar 2013 #56
Women siding with males against other women? I'm shocked. SHOCKED. WinkyDink Mar 2013 #58
I think they both should be suspended Mosby Mar 2013 #60
Fox News Lite blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #61
CNN has the people pleasing syndrome... Little Star Mar 2013 #77
women give themselves too much credit for not being sexist La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #63
Totally agree. nt Lex Mar 2013 #65
and guys (even on DU) love to trot them out and put them on display as "cool chicks".... bettyellen Mar 2013 #73
it's like the hipsters in williamsburg who give themselves too much moral cred La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #75
oh come on Pri, "some of their best friends are....." bettyellen Mar 2013 #76
LOL La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #82
I seem to know way too many of those people. MadrasT Mar 2013 #92
When I complain about sexist behavior MadrasT Mar 2013 #93
I say they have a "kink for regressive" behavior, LOL. Like those people who don period dress or bettyellen Mar 2013 #97
Major Jerk Check: When someone whose intentions are generally good tblue37 Mar 2013 #66
Here is a list of CNN sponsors I saw on FB: Whisp Mar 2013 #84
Great! Thanks for the list Whisp. Segami Mar 2013 #94
Thank you, Whisp! nt City Lights Mar 2013 #106
These two reporters Heathen57 Mar 2013 #88
What is it about those who won't admit a wrong they've done? ReRe Mar 2013 #89
Thanks for this information, Segami! City Lights Mar 2013 #95
Fuck CNN! smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #96
Revolting n/t Andy Stanton Mar 2013 #98
Has Candy Crowley ever been raped? n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #99
"star football players" that says it all. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2013 #100
fuck cnn, massive computer virus WRH2 Mar 2013 #103
Apparently, we are all wrong... new info Whisp Mar 2013 #104
Kick, she and CNN are not backing down. n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #105

lark

(23,193 posts)
68. Prior to today, I would very occasionally watch CNN
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:53 PM
Mar 2013

NO MORE - NEVER AGAIN!!! Can't believe that they are so deep in the anti-women philosphy that they can't understand what they did wrong. That women did this is even much more distrubing and disqualifying from ever being watched or given even an ounce of credibility.

Candy Crowley - I thought you were better than this, but I was obviously greatly mistaken!!!



 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. CNN is a for profit entertainment outlet.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:52 PM
Mar 2013

They KNOW they are subjective, events and news are secondary to their profit margin. That is why I call them FoxLite.

Yes that is right, CNN is just FoxLite. That is why I won't watch either and hate their propaganda.

Cha

(298,046 posts)
4. That's right.. Double down cnn. Tell all those people watching they're
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:55 PM
Mar 2013

wrong in how you were sympathizing with the rapists.

thanks Segami.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
83. YEP, hit 'em where it really hurts, the TILL
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 06:35 PM
Mar 2013

Send a message to those advertising on CNN why you are withdrawing support for their good/service until CNN says they were WRONG and apologizes and promises not to do it again. Use "the market" to get their attention.

Cha

(298,046 posts)
85. YES! Also, it's not the first time cnn has screwed up BIG TIME.. they're in
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:51 PM
Mar 2013

a Holding Pattern.

progressoid

(50,020 posts)
5. On the plus side.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mar 2013

I'm glad to hear that they are getting the message that they fucked up. Too bad they are even handling the repercussions badly, but at least we know we are being heard.

I'd like to say, I'll never watch CNN again. But I haven't deliberately watched them for years.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
7. I haven't watched CNN since that week in Oct 2003, when
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

Wolf Blitzer ran out onto the airfield in Eveleth MN, to grab the mike away from a local woman reporter. She was saying that weather had NOT played a part in Wellstone's plane going down. Blitzer wanted us all to know that weather did play a part.

Funny thing, but the weather couldn't have been all that bad. After all, when it became obvious that Wellstone's plane, which had made contact with the control tower, never landed, the airport manager immediately took off in his small plane, to figure out where the plane was. He didn't find the weather to be difficult at all.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
80. Here is a link Re: Fetzer, another reporter who investigated
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 06:05 PM
Mar 2013

The massacre of Wellstone, his wife, daughter, staff members and the TWO PILOTS flying his top of the line private plane.

Before I give you the link, I will state for the record that I watched this happen on CNN at the time it happened! (I don't think CNN keeps its TV reports and vids of them up for so long - this is an event that will mark its tenth anniversary this autumn.

One more thing - I requested and received the NTSB records relating to the crash. Do you know the plane crashed approximately 11:15 Am but the plane burned until close to 6Pm? An aviation expert I contacted said that was highly suspect in and of itself. Sen Ted Kennedy was scheduled to be aboard this flight! For whatever reason, he changed his mind right before he was supposed to get on.

http://californiavspeterson.blogspot.com/2012/08/occams-razor-media-inacurracies-lies.htmlplane.

Z_I_Peevey

(2,783 posts)
87. 'Sorry the page you are looking for in this blog does not exist.'
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 08:05 PM
Mar 2013

That's the message I got at your link.

Although I couldn't any video, I did find a number of references to the exchange, including in the description of this book about the Wellstone crash:

http://www.amazon.com/American-Assassination-Strange-Senator-Wellstone/dp/0975276301

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
101. Thanks for the link you provided. I think these points that were
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 06:28 PM
Mar 2013

Made regarding Fetzer's book on The Wellstone Massacre are pertinent:


By David R. Griffin
Amazon Verified Purchase
The authors of this important book argue that Senator Paul Wellstone's death, 10 days before the 2002 elections, was an assassination, most likely ordered by the Bush administration.

Directly confronting the widespread tendency to reject all "conspiracy theories," the authors point out that "the idea that every theory that implies the existence of conspiracy ought to be rejected out of hand" is no more rational than the idea that every such theory should be accepted. Rather, "each case has to be evaluated on the basis of the evidence that is relevant and available in that case."
On that basis, they argue, if we look at ALL the relevant evidence and employ the scientific method of inference to the best explanation, we must conclude that the theory that Wellstone was assassinated is far more probable than the official theory, according to which his airplane crash was an accident. The evidence includes several facts suggesting that the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) colluded with the FBI in a cover-up:

1. FBI agents from Minneapolis arrived at the crash site within 2 hours after the crash, even though the trip from Minnesota to Duluth to the crash site would have taken at least 3 hours--so they must have departed before the plane crashed.

2. When asked for the times at which private flights had arrived in Duluth that morning, the FAA said the records had been destroyed.

3. Considerable disinformation about weather conditions was quickly given to the press.

4. Although regulations called for the investigation to be carried out by the NTSB, not the FBI (because the crash site was not designated a crime scene), the FBI agents were there for 8 hours before the NTSB team arrived.

5. The FBI, even though there illegally, prevented the local "first responders" from taking photographs.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
8. Here is another reason to NOT watch CNN...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:29 PM
Mar 2013
Elisabeth Hasselbeck May Be Headed To CNN To Host A Morning Show


The other week we brought you the hard-hitting breaking news that Elisabeth Hasselbeck was either fired or not fired from her co-hosting gig on The View. Despite statements to the contrary from higher-ups at the show, there have been multiple reports since then saying she’s out. This brings up an important question (sort of, if you care about this, which, I mean, maybe you should think about picking up a hobby like stamp collecting or bungee jumping or something): Where will she land? According to Page Six, the answer may be at CNN, as host of a new morning show.

We hear CNN honcho Jeff Zucker is interested in seeing her join his cable channel. A source told us, “They’re definitely interested.” Although The View creator Barbara Walters denied on-air that Hasselback was on her way out, after news reports were leaked saying she’s being axed, Page Six revealed she’s being pushed out of the ABC daytime talk show as ratings sag and research shows her conservative views don’t sit well with some regular viewers. [NY Post]

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/elisabeth_wooed_n5JFyAXctmIMOdEwzmAmfM



http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/03/elisabeth-hasselbeck-may-be-headed-to-cnn-to-host-a-morning-show/

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
50. Well Hasselbeck is leaving the view and her husband got traded
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:25 AM
Mar 2013

Though I can't remember to where. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if CNN hires her. I'm guessing Glenn Beck will be next.

 
70. That is her brother in law Matt that got traded
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:58 PM
Mar 2013

but he is a right wing slime bag just like she is.

When the brother in law was a Seahawk he gave bush a Seahawk jersey when the deserter was up here and caught major heat but in true repiglathug form he did not care a bit.

Her ignorance is loved by the right wing 'base'.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,180 posts)
67. A reality TV star / Fashion designer / Gossip show co-host
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:42 PM
Mar 2013

is now a sought after esteemed news journalist overnight. I'm sure there'll be a bidding war with FOX News.
Only in America

sheshe2

(84,060 posts)
6. CNN is out of touch,
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:14 PM
Mar 2013

Just like the GOP when it comes to violence and rape of women and children.

from a post yesterday:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022540260

Thank you, Segami, for pointing out their blind outrage!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
9. stinking pile of shit CNN
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:29 PM
Mar 2013

I hope they get double viral over this. They have got to be the fucking dumbest people on the planet. omg, how disgusting and clueless they are.


GRRRRRRR!!!!!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
10. ugh...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:31 PM
Mar 2013

"And so CNN’s coverage was disturbing, as it fed the rape culture. Reporter Poppy Harlow stood outside the courtroom visibly distressed and lamented on air to Candy Crowley, “I’ve never experienced anything like it, Candy. It’s incredibly emotional, even for an outsider like me. These two young men, with promising futures, star football players, A students, literally watched as their lives fell apart.” No mention of how the victim’s life was torn apart and is forever tainted due to the video and pictures the rapists and their posse posted online."


Part of this is related to the cable news disease of going overboard to emotionally "humanize" an angle in as many stories as possible...Nancy Grace is one of the clowns who elevated this to an art form, and clearly her influence has caught on...

chillfactor

(7,588 posts)
12. I used to watch CNN in the morning to catch Soledad O'Brien
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:46 PM
Mar 2013

she put many guests, especially dumbass republicans, on the spot.....

what is with CNN......they want to put a blonde bimbo like Hasselback on in the morning? then they added a jackass like jake tapper?

I so miss the days when Ted Turner was running the network...CNN has fallen into the pitfalls of hell since he left...and Harlow and Crowley are perfect examples.....

2naSalit

(86,943 posts)
21. and I have personally
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:29 PM
Mar 2013

heard from the lips of Mr. Turner that he laments what CNN has become. It was some time ago but I heard him say, can't remember where, but I do recall that he was sorely disappointed.

CNN is truly all into the slut-shaming aspect of this issue and probably, for the reasons mentioned elsewhere in this thread, because they want to scoop up all the no-nothings who are now disenchanted with Fuxnooze. Worthless, nonstop BS is what CNN has become.

lpbk2713

(42,774 posts)
16. Quite the brain trust they have there at CNN.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:00 PM
Mar 2013






"I'll have "Really Stupid Moves" for five hundred please Alex."


 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
18. that one always makes me smile...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:11 PM
Mar 2013

Nova had a show on last night on Watson, the AI that was on Jeopardy. I told my husband about Blitzer being on Jeopardy and losing like the moron he is ... great laughter ensued, he didn't know that.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
17. We can't let up on these ( your expression here )
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:01 PM
Mar 2013

changing the channel doesn't cut it and as for fox fascism who paved the way for garbage like this if we don't figure out a way to be heard against this machine we better just check out.

redqueen

(115,108 posts)
19. I hope people keep talking about this.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:18 PM
Mar 2013

There are people who want to silence anyone who calls out and challenges rape culture, but that's the only way to affect real, lasting change.

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
71. Yeh, I was stunned at that turn of phrase. "Essentially". Why it was so rapy, it was like real rape
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:21 PM
Mar 2013

only by kids with straight-A's

EmeraldCity

(5 posts)
23. Solution
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:34 PM
Mar 2013

I have never banged on my laptop so hard in response to that sick and horrendous video.

There is a simple solution to this we need to get Poppy Harlow fired and Candy Crowley fired. There are many ways we can make this happen. My biggest idea is we get a petition to get them fired backed by a boycott against cnn. If we want it bad enough we can get those rape promoters fired.

Also why did the rapists only get 1 year? They should get at a very minimum 10 years for that horrific crime.

Ilsa

(61,712 posts)
25. I think it was because they were juveniles.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:43 PM
Mar 2013

Yet, in some states, they try to try fifteen year olds as adults.

Welcome to DU!

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
28. it all depends on who those 15 year olds are
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:58 PM
Mar 2013

and their ***cough*** ***cough*** backgrounds as to whether they are tried as adults, that applies to most states

redqueen

(115,108 posts)
29. "***cough*** ***cough*** backgrounds"
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:02 PM
Mar 2013


As well as the ***cough*** ***cough*** background, of the victim.

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
34. That first kid, when he apologized, wasn't all that upset.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:07 PM
Mar 2013

The second kid broke down and cried. He should've felt awful and apparently he did. There might be hope for him. But that first kid, he was just horrible, just reciting his apology like he was being forced to pay for a neighbor's window he hit with a baseball. He was like "I'm sorry I raped your daughter and stuff."

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
32. Not even rightwingers are pro-rape (unless you count the environment)
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:04 PM
Mar 2013

It's just bizarre that CNN is digging in its heels on this idiotic misstep. The reporters need to apologize and just do better in the future.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
90. Yes They Are
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 01:15 AM
Mar 2013

They only got upset with Aiken, et. al. because they lost.

We should start calling them the RAPEuglycon party

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
30. As I see it, CNN is the real victim in this whole Steubenville rape situation.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:02 PM
Mar 2013

I mean, poor CNN, forced to endure this entirely unwanted criticism of their sympathy for those poor rapists. It's like a nightmare; every time they defend themselves, these so-called critics just layer on new scorn for daring to see these lads, these straight-A student lads, I remind you, for daring to see them as human beings, with all the flaws and tender frailties that humanity entails. And CNN, isn't is only human too? Yet people harp on and on about their all-too-human empathy for the young men who must endure this tragic misfortune, just because they happened to get caught raping. Oh, when will the suffering end?

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
72. She is rightfully getting a blasting earful on FB.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 04:05 PM
Mar 2013
Hugues Quebecois 'Poppy is taking this extremely personally as a woman,' said one executive. 'She’s outraged that someone would think she’d do such a thing' as slant her coverage toward rapists. 'It’s gotten so out of control.' Playing the victim? Do you think this is a game. You gave up the right to speak to or as a woman when you became a rape apologist...


MacKenzie Reed Your indignation signals your complete and utter lack of understanding of the experience of having your body violated. Did you know that the majority of PTSD sufferers are actually women who have survived sexual assault? The 1 in 5 statistic is no joke. Most women don't report rape because of people like you - because we are all-too-aware of the rape culture - that you perpetuated! - that tells us that the rape was really our fault. One condition of living on this earth is that we all face consequences for our actions - kind of like the Steubenville rapists. You will be called to face your actions in one way or another. I recommend that you search your heart and make things right immediately.

Well deserved! Now come out and properly apologize, and we will know if you mean it!
 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
37. Maybe we need a reverse advertiser protest.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:22 PM
Mar 2013

Write to advertisers on CNN and tell them we enjoy/use there products but no longer tune in to CNN. Their advertising dollars could be better spent elsewhere.

Just an idea, not sure if it would work.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
48. It does and it has worked well in the past
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:32 AM
Mar 2013

I don't have the mental energy right now to find their sponsors. I am hoping another DUer will come through.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
74. LOVE IT! Let's find out the Sunday sponsors then, and get links
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:29 PM
Mar 2013

together. What do you say?

I originally said highest ratings, but Anderson Cooper is the exception- he corrected reporters for their perp loving bullshit.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
38. Another petition from Credo Action.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:27 PM
Mar 2013

Subject: Tell CNN: Suspend Candy Crowley for Steubenville coverage
Dear Friend,

When the guilty verdict came down in the Steubenville rape case and two high school football players were convicted of gang-raping a 16-year-old girl, we were shocked by CNN's coverage.

CNN news anchor and chief political correspondent Candy Crowley led a discussion about the two convicted rapists lamenting them as "young men that had such promising futures, star football players, very good students." When Crowley interviewed legal analyst Paul Callan about the negative effect that these rape convictions would have on the perpetrators, it was hard to tell who she thought the real victims were -- focusing on the defendants as young and vulnerable boys she noted that registering as sex offenders will "haunt them for the rest of their lives."

Tell CNN: Suspend Candy Crowley and discipline staff responsible for your dangerously flawed and apologist coverage of the Steubenville rape verdict.

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/cnn_steubenville/?r_by=56317-2753290-wkMjNnx&rc=confemail

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
44. Ted Turner must weep when he sees CNN
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:51 AM
Mar 2013

What they have done since he left is tantamount to going into a temple and using the altar as a toilet.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
46. Time to target their advertisers
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:22 AM
Mar 2013

It's a tried and true method. Corporate News Network needs to have a time out and a monetary hit for such heinous pandering to rapists. It must not be tolerated.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
47. Some people here are excellent at ferreting out the advertisers.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:25 AM
Mar 2013

I have a personal situation that has me hanging on by a thread, but if someone out there will get the list of CNN sponsors, I will help it go viral and will make sure upworthy has the link as well. Help a struggling patriot, please.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
51. They have been going downhill for awhile now
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:28 AM
Mar 2013

CNN is the only major station here in Korea, though we do also get BBC. CNN International is not near as bad, though we have to put up with the constant sports shows that pretty much focus on European sports. They make me want to gag.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
53. CNN has fallen victim to its own need to say "both sides have a valid point" in all
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:33 AM
Mar 2013

situations.

Its how they now cover all stories, not just politics.

Both sides are equally to blame, are equally at fault, are equally damaged, by a series of events which apparently exist SEPARATELY and APART from those actually involved.

This approach is what allows CNN reporters to sit quietly as a Republican lie directly to their face. Both sides are always equal.

And its now part of how they report everything.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
57. Exactly. They give equal credence to all sides, regardless of the facts.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:16 AM
Mar 2013

There is zero critical analysis coming from that brain trust.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
56. CNN is propaganda, anyone dumb enough to care about them after years of lies
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:12 AM
Mar 2013

deserves to be lied to. Getting emotionally worked up about CNN's propaganda is exactly what CNN wants as the very purpose of most propaganda is to get an emotional, not a rational, response.

Learn people learn, you're allowing yourselves to be duped every single day of your lives by financial predators. CNN does not care about issues, news, reality, ethics or anything except CASH.

Mosby

(16,417 posts)
60. I think they both should be suspended
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:20 PM
Mar 2013

To give them some time to think about how their reporting somehow went horribly wrong.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
77. CNN has the people pleasing syndrome...
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:58 PM
Mar 2013

trying to please everybody they end up pleasing no one.

Republican's have FOX, we have MSNBC. CNN tried to go for the middle but there really is no middle worth having it's so small. Democrats think CNN is FOX lite, Republicans think CNN's as bad as MSNBC. CNN stands for nothing. Dumb Shits!

I agree

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
63. women give themselves too much credit for not being sexist
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:31 PM
Mar 2013

a lot of women are and contribute heavily to sexism

just being female does not mean you can't contribute to sexism and misogyny



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
73. and guys (even on DU) love to trot them out and put them on display as "cool chicks"....
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:27 PM
Mar 2013

funny they have never have anything actually enlightening to say. It always comes down to:

"it doesn't bother ME when he /they ______________________"

What insight we all gain from them!

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
75. it's like the hipsters in williamsburg who give themselves too much moral cred
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:33 PM
Mar 2013

for being non-racist and non-sexist and non-homophobic and feel entitled to make jokes or use language that is racist/sexist/homophobic.

argh

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
93. When I complain about sexist behavior
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:09 AM
Mar 2013

To certain men in real life, the default response is "but some women LIKE that!"

Errrrr... OK. That doesn't make it "not sexist".

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
97. I say they have a "kink for regressive" behavior, LOL. Like those people who don period dress or
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 11:41 AM
Mar 2013

civil war reenactors, LOL.

tblue37

(65,547 posts)
66. Major Jerk Check: When someone whose intentions are generally good
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:28 PM
Mar 2013

commits a real offense, whether out of carelessness or ignorance, that person, once the offense is pointed out, will usually apologize sincerely and learn from the situation.

When someone who is a major jerk commits a real offense and is called out over the offense, that person will get both defensive and offensive. He or she will try to invalidate the concern over the offense, defensively claiming that it was not really an offense at all. And then that person will go on the offense, claiming that the person offended is being all extreme and unreasonable--and maybe even a little bit (or a lot) nutty--about being offended by something so minor or misunderstood. Even if the person is finally forced to offer an apology for the original offense, it will be of the insincere "if anyone was offended" non-apology variety.

My major jerk alarm is going off like a klaxon over the way CNN and Harlow are responding. Can you hear it? OOOOGAH! OOOOOOGAH! OOOOGAH!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
84. Here is a list of CNN sponsors I saw on FB:
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:40 PM
Mar 2013

Verizon
Nutrisystem
Avis
AIG Term Life
Coldwell Bankers
Venus Breeze
Geico
O'lay
Jimmy Dean Sausages
lawyers Weitz & Luxenburg, NY
Sudafed
Video Professor
Natural's Cat Chow, Purina
Merneke Car Care Center
Am. Express
Travel Companion on CNN
Crystal Light
Infiniti Car
Vonage Phone
Dyson Vacuum
Eharmony
Cepacol
Hyundi Car
U.S. Buildings
Boeing
Progessive.Com
Direct TV
Colonial Penn Life Insurance
Indulg-a-Bath
Stop IRS Debt
HSBC Direct Financial Inst
U.S. Airforce
Aleve
Progresso Soup
Subaru
Spiriva
Cooking Lite
Steak-umns Burgers
Infiniti
Scalpcin
Mama Lucia Meat Balls
Sea Bond
Financial Freedom, reverse mortgage
eDiets Meal Delivery
Aqua Velvet
Citracal
Mr. Clean
Chemistry.com
Bayer Products
Old Mutual Investment
Rogaine
Verizon (Both)
Avis
Coldwell Bankers
Geico
Jimmy Dean Sausages
Sudafed
Natural's Cat Chow, Purina

Heathen57

(573 posts)
88. These two reporters
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:02 AM
Mar 2013

are responsible for what they say. If I would for a moment that they would care what viewers thought, this is what I would tell them:

"You two really need to listen to just what you said at the time before you take offense at what your viewers are telling you. YOU both were the ones lamenting that these two boys lives were ruined, without once mentioning it was their own actions that caused them to be in that position.

"YOU both were at fault for not mentioning, not even once, that they were convicted by a judge, not some easily swayed jury. That means that the evidence proved beyond reasonable doubt they committed a crime.

"YOU both, and this is the worst offence, failed to show your audience the hurt they have done to the victim, how her life has been ruined through their actions.

"The failure of you to see just what you did to deserve the ire, you are demonstrating the same arrogant reaction that the boys had. Blame the victims but never hold the perpetrators responsible for their actions."

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
89. What is it about those who won't admit a wrong they've done?
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:06 AM
Mar 2013

... What good does it do when everyone knows you did what you're being accused of? It was blasted all over the USA and the effing world, for Pete's sake. I think it's a left-over more' from days of yore when certain people lived by the unspoken rule of "Never, never, ever admit it," ... you know, the "Good Ole Boy's Club." Well, this incident is just a reminder that this unspoken rule is still alive and well out there in America and practiced daily by a certain portion of our society. That place where girls and women know their place and go along to get along, because they are trapped inside that "world." That's what I heard in Candy & Poppy's prospective.

The Faux News viewers who refuse to be drug, kicking and screaming into the 21st century. The fundies. And CNN is cashing in on Faux News' rating dip. Can't have the 'Merican People hearing too much of that Pew opinion stuff over at MSNBC, now can we? And now Elizabeth Hessleback (sp?) is moving to CNN. What more proof do we need? CNN is taking a bigger step to the right.

Well, it's OK... because I don't watch their slanted news much anymore anyway, but now I'm giving it up altogether with everyone else.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
95. Thanks for this information, Segami!
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:17 AM
Mar 2013

I am furious and just zapped off a HOWLER to cnn! They turn my stomach!

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
100. "star football players" that says it all.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

In CNNs opinion, their lives were more important than the victim's.

WRH2

(87 posts)
103. fuck cnn, massive computer virus
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 11:04 PM
Mar 2013

One time I logged on to cnn to watch Ir ag war coverage and did something that destroyed my hard drive

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
104. Apparently, we are all wrong... new info
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:11 AM
Mar 2013

and the 700 or so comments on Harlows FB page are all wrong too, the 99.9999% that read her comments the exact same way we did - as empathizing more for the rapists than the girl...

Would that made sense, that a person who studed and trained in the 'communications' industry, is just plain misunderstood on what message he/she sends out.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/our-awful-rape-culture-is-real-but-cnns-poppy-harlow-was-not-sympathizing-with-steubenville-rapists/


Our Awful Rape Culture Is Real, But CNN’s Poppy Harlow Was Not ‘Sympathizing’ With Steubenville Rapists

...The petition also called the CNN segment “disgusting,” accusing it of perpetuating “a shameful culture in which young people never understand the concept of consent and in which rape victims are blamed and ostracized.”

The resultant outrage is entirely understandable. We should have no tolerance for people who sympathize with rapists or make excuses for non-consensual behavior. But when you cut through the haze of the controversy and dig a little deeper, it seems as though Poppy Harlow is not the vicious rape-high-fiver many have decided to brand her.

Why? Because if you look through the totality of her reporting on the verdict, Harlow often stressed that this was a serious crime while repeatedly mentioning the devastating emotional impact this whole ordeal has had on the unnamed victim.

During that same controversial segment on Sunday morning, for instance, Harlow explained how the victim’s “life will never be the same again,” and that her mother believes the girl “will persevere” and “get through” these hard times. She read from the mother’s statement, which told the rapists they displayed a “lack of compassion” and a “lack of moral code.”

Later in the day, Harlow told anchor Fredricka Whitfield that the rape was “an incredibly serious crime” before reiterating the details of the sex acts: “Both boys found guilty of raping this 16-year-old girl. One in a car, one in a basement as she lay naked on the floor, and they have been found guilty.”...

What utter bullshit. I don't buy it for a minute

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