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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 05:49 PM Mar 2013

The sequester.

Just came him from a rally by Federal Employees.

The short of it, 20-40% pay cuts depending on the agency. This puts national security at risk.

For example, apprehensions are up by Border Patrol Agents and this is putting the gains of the last ten years at risk...did I mention the border will become porous?

Oh, child care workers at base might not be able to afford to come to work...this puts readiness at risk

Consider this a preview, I gotta outline this and write it...but the very short...national security republicans in Congress are putting national security at risk.

I think I will have to contact (I do, for real) republicans who voted for it and ask how they marry these cuts with actual, on the ground, national security.

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The sequester. (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 OP
K&R!!!! haikugal Mar 2013 #1
My children's school district is losing $350,000 next year. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #2
Some of the comments are over stated ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #3
a lot of the federal support agencies already cut prior to this Johonny Mar 2013 #4
I led with the national security angle nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #5
Not sure there is that much to the national security angle ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #7
That is due to the CR not Sequestration ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #6
No one of the state reasons was clearly in anticipation of sequestration Johonny Mar 2013 #9
Anything that has already happened was CR related ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #10
Kick and Rec! zappaman Mar 2013 #8

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. My children's school district is losing $350,000 next year.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 08:06 PM
Mar 2013

and I was thinking about applying for a city bus driver job. That's not happening. They are not hiring.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
3. Some of the comments are over stated
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 09:46 PM
Mar 2013

Sequestration does not effect uniformed members of the DoD, just civilians.

22 days is the max furlough time allowed by Federal law per year, thats about 20% for the rest of the FY, 10% on an annual basis. More than that, and it will change to a RIF (reduction in force). No RIFs have been authorized.

Childcare workers are paid out of non-appropriate funds and not subject directly to furloughs. However, if the base is basically being closed on every Friday, the childcare may close or at least cutback as well. Other MWR activities like the Exchange and Commissary are also not subject to the sequester

Support contractors will most likely follow whatever the facility they support does. Prime contractors are not impacted by sequestration, but will be by the CR.

Border Patrol is a harder call. They are under the same limits but the CR is probably as big if not bigger problem than sequestration.

Bottom line is no appropriated funds employee is going to lose more than 22 days this FY.

Johonny

(20,996 posts)
4. a lot of the federal support agencies already cut prior to this
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 10:20 PM
Mar 2013

I mean it just isn't the federal people. My company gets contracts from several different federal agencies. Each one of them is cutting us and even when they aren't cutting you, you are losing your federal support people. It is hard to give them quality support when they're not around to deliver it to them. It fucks up the whole apparatus involved. Try doing inter-agency meetings when people are on mandatory days off left and right. Sure its only 10-20 days per person, but when your talking 4-5 agencies and 20 people that makes the meeting schedule drag out even longer. Which of course adds to cost in the end... just saying.

The problem is Republicans do not care about real things that happen to real people. They care about ideals. They sold the federal spending is a problem BS and they must do it because ideally they've been told and all believe it is true. If national security is really at risk doesn't matter, because in their mind they are doing the right thing. It is the same thing on nearly every issue. They have constantly shown that the real lives effected by their BS absolutism is totally immaterial to them. What counts is that they force you to live in their crap fantasy world. So there answer is national security was served by "fixing" long term debt, if it fucked your life than they don't care. See women with real life threatening pregnancies and republican idealist approach to abortion as a cue to how they really care about real people with real problems compared to forcing you to live in their BS fantasy world. In their BS fantasy world national security is being served because the Republican idealism "less spending" was served.

Meanwhile national security is obviously being hurt.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. I led with the national security angle
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 10:34 PM
Mar 2013

You could say I know my readers.

Child care workers meh...border patrol...now it affects me.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
7. Not sure there is that much to the national security angle
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 10:46 PM
Mar 2013

DHS has choices as to where it is going to take it cuts. They could choose to leave the Border Patrol basically untouched in terms of sworn personnel. Where the cuts are taken is up to the administration.

Again I suggest you look at the CR as well as sequestration. Its impact is actually greater than many realize.

Johonny

(20,996 posts)
9. No one of the state reasons was clearly in anticipation of sequestration
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:13 AM
Mar 2013

I've only have a pile of emails about it. Sure CR hurt but so does sequestration on top of it. Agencies and the companies that deal with those agencies haven't sat around on their hands with their thumbs up there ass dude. They saw this coming and man they acted. I know what is happening in my part of the world, maybe where you are the sequestration shoe hasn't dropped yet IDK.

You keep saying it is only CR but that is not the reality for many of those on the ground.

Just saying

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
10. Anything that has already happened was CR related
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:43 PM
Mar 2013

Heard today the DoD furlough notifications are being delayed.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
8. Kick and Rec!
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 10:49 PM
Mar 2013

for contacting (for real) republicans!
I can't stand it when someone fakes contacting republicans!

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