Tue Mar 19, 2013, 07:41 PM
madfloridian (88,114 posts)
2002 Senator Bob Graham D-FL about Iraq vote. "the blood's going to be on your hands"
Last edited Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:38 PM - Edit history (1)
Graham was very critical of those who refused to read the entire NIE and not just the sanitized version. He did not mince words. These are strong words for Bob Graham who always thought and thought about things before speaking.
We need to remember things like this at this anniversary of the time that our country invaded another country based on lies.
I remember Bob Graham's rant on October 9, 2002, two days before the IWR vote.
The Palm Beach Post link is no longer available, but I saved the text and the article.
..."On Oct. 9, 2002, Graham — the guy everyone thought of as quiet, mild-mannered, deliberate, conflict-averse — let loose on his Senate colleagues for going along with President Bush's war against Iraq.
In contrast to those words were the ones spoken by other leaders.
Clinton defends successor's push for war
"I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over," Clinton said in a Time magazine interview that will hit newsstands Monday, a day before the publication of his book "My Life."
Of course his views were the basis of many of the votes for the invasion by others in Congress.
And Hilary also spoke on the topic in 2008, when there had been plenty of hindsight.
Hillary and the Iraqi People
Sometimes one can agree with a great part of what one says, but then can be appalled by one statement. This was that kind of time for me.
As Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, prepares to give a major address on Iraq today, I’m reminded how much I was struck by this part of her Friday speech in Pittsburgh, when she sounded as if she were implying that the Iraqi people were entirely to blame for their current troubles.
Her words from that ABC article in 2008.
"And I believe that at the same time that we have to make clear to the Iraqis that they have been given the greatest gift that a human being can give another human being – the gift of freedom. And it is up to them to decide how they will use that precious gift that has been paid for with the blood and sacrifice and treasure of the United States of America.
Changing the reason for the invasion from protecting ourselves from weapons of mass destruction to giving Iraqis the gift of freedom.
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2002 Senator Bob Graham D-FL about Iraq vote. "the blood's going to be on your hands" (Original post)
Response to madfloridian (Original post)
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:04 PM
graham4anything (11,464 posts)
2. Bob Graham would have been sitting Vice President had Al Gore or John Kerry picked him
instead of the abysmal Lieberman or the all time worst choice in history for a democratic vp nominee, John Edwards.
but of course, Bob was too old, too ugly, too obsessive, to boring (all according to John Edwards fans in 2004) and well, those vp choices never were seated were they
My board name is a direct tribute to Bob Graham as in Bob Graham for any position in the government
wish someone had listened to me in 2000 and especially 2004.
Bob Graham was the #1 most popular person in Florida, more popular than Mickey Mouse,
though Mickey wasn't a person.
Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #4)
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:13 PM
madfloridian (88,114 posts)
5. It won't wash off either.
The media is back in that mode again of acting like we are stupid. They skirt around the truth, tell deliberate lies, seldom speak the whole truth.
That's why they are getting away with destroying public education. Same reason they got away with Iraq.