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from Grist:
Wind power is poised to kick nuclears ass
By John Upton
In 2012, wind energy became the fastest-growing source of new electricity generation in the U.S., providing 42 percent of new generation capacity, according to the American Wind Energy Association.
Wind power is becoming so cheap and so commonplace that it appears poised to help blow up the countrys nuclear power sector, according to a recent Bloomberg article (which you really should read in full). Other highlights from the piece:
* $25 billion was spent on wind energy in the U.S. in 2012.
* The $25 billion outlay increased nationwide wind generating capacity by 13,124 megawatts up 28 percent from 2011.
* That spending spree was fueled in large part by a mad scramble to qualify for federal tax credits that were set to expire at the end of last year (but were ultimately renewed by Congress).
* Wind-generated electricity met about 3.4 percent of of American demand in 2012, a figure thats expected to reach 4.2 percent next year.
* $120 billion spent on wind turbines since 2003 has increased wind power supplies 1,000 percent and created as much new electricity generation as could be provided by 14 new nuclear power plants.
In addition to federal tax credits, state-level renewable energy requirements are helping to spur winds growth, and the nuclear industry thinks thats unfair: ....................(more)
The complete piece is at: http://grist.org/news/wind-power-is-poised-to-kick-nuclears-ass/
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)If wind energy production continues grow at its current staggering pace of 0.8% more of our energy per year, it will catch nuclear in 25 years -- roughly the average life of a wind turbine. Are wind energy producers using some of their profits to save for replacing their equipment, or will they be lining up at the trough for more subsidies in 25 years?
We need to replace coal and gas generated electricity 100% in the coming years, and wind cannot do it alone. Nuclear is a logical option, but the abject fear from the public that is associated with the industry makes growth difficult.
But Exelon, the biggest nuclear-power producer in the country, gets plenty of government help itself. A 2011 report from the Union of Concerned Scientists found that the nuclear power industry wouldnt even be viable without government support: more than 30 subsidies have supported every stage of the nuclear fuel cycle, from uranium mining to long-term waste storage.
Looks like that trough is already pretty crowded.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)How many wind turbines would have been erected without government help? Will they plan for the future or simply go belly up when the profits start to fall? We know what we hope for, and we all hope that's how it turns out.
We should be pulling for safe, rational nuclear in this country, not fighting it. It's a power option that can take us deep into the future as we figure out other viable options.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)Using the word "safe" and nuclear in the same sentence boogles my mind. Even if all accidents could be avoided, we're still left with its nasty waste. Sorry, but.........
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)It's unthinkable to block facilities for long-term solutions to nuclear waste.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)to nuclear power have consistently figured out ways to stop solutions to its long-term storage. Because there is no long-term storage, there are spent rods in casks on an island in the Mississippi River in Minnesota. That does not seem like the best storage solution to me.
midnight
(26,624 posts)and we need to move away from it...
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)all of the nuclear power plants operating in the U.S. today we still need a long-term storage solution for the spent fuel. We don't have that now and the anti-nuclear power people are not helping that situation, they are making it worse.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)how many were erected without government help?
I'm guessing you could count the number on a single hand. Probably wouldn't even need all of the fingers to be present. Probably a very round number.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Maine just received a nice chunk of change from the US Gov, just the first installment to boot, for our long closed Maine Yankee nuclear plant.
The nuke waste supposed to have been removed from our storage many years ago. Still waiting.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)We Mainers have been forced to pay for the storage of our spent fuel for extra years while TPTB refused to come to terms with this fact. Now the real costs of nuclear will start to emerge. So yes, that is a good thing.
And now we will be compensated for the unplanned storage costs incurred as a result of a government agreement that wasn't kept. The money is to be distributed back to local electricity users in the form of lower rates. Personally, I'd rather it was re-distributed back in the form of a check to users for the last xyz years, pro-rata based on how much extra we paid out. That way, it would come directly to the people forced to bear the burden, versus giving newcomers who didn't pay the extra costs our money. But it is what it is, and no system is perfect.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)We have to look at ourselves for that one.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)The Federal Government contractually agreed to provide long-term storage for spent fuel. They have failed to do so and that is why we sued and why we won the suit. They failed on Yucca Mountain. I've also read that it can be stored very safely under the great salt lakes, IIRC.
So yes it is their fault.
In the meantime, Maine continues to make progress in renewable energy, with the Penobscot River to my north, wind in the far north, and is a leader in ocean current powered electricity to my east.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)we'd have a functioning storage facility today. The facility exists, we just cannot use it.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Who do they think they are telling us we can't dump all our deadly waste in their state?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)There are dozens of environmental groups who were blocking the transport of the waste through their state.
Abject, irrational fear combined with unparalleled ignorance -- those are powerful tools when in the hands of those who know how to use them. Just ask the fossil fuel industry how they are fighting controls on greenhouse gas emissions.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)How in the world is it that environmental groups who can't get anything done about global warming, able to stop the nuclear industry? Did you know our Senator from Nevada is opposed to Yucca being used?
Blaming the environmental groups for stopping Yucca is ignorant. All they are asking is to make sure nuclear waste is not dumped. Rather that the waste be disposed of properly by the generation that made it and not foisted upon our children. If your only solution is to dump it in Nevada, then you are about the only one left. A member of a minority that blames everyone but themselves for the failure of everybody else to do what the wrong thing.
As for the fossil fuel industry.... you do know they are the same people who run nuclear plants, right? Don't tell me you just now discovered that.
Duke, TVA, Exelon, etc. They are creating the co2 and the nuclear waste. The same corps, in bed, making profits, spewing emissions. Destroying the environment together.
Environmentalists have been fighting both for years now. You should join in.
Tikki
(14,576 posts)of like..huh?
Tikki
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)If so, you get the last word, but opposition to Yucca Mountain is based on nothing but ignorance and unfounded fear -- two of the pillars in the US environmental movement.
But don't fool yourself about waste. With tens of thousands of wind turbines spinning away, they do wear out and they do generate waste.
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By the way, trying to construe that I oppose wind energy is just silly.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)These were your words before edit:
"".... is based on nothing but ignorance and unfounded fear -- two of the pillars in the US environmental movement. ""
What it looks like you believe is that two of the pillars of the US environmental movement are "ignorance and unfounded fear".
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)First, my edit was submitted one minute after my original post and a full hour prior to your comment. So, your quote is exactly what I intended to say and exactly what you commented on.
And, yes, I do believe that fear and ignorance are two pillars of the US environmental movement. Two shining examples and DU favorites:
1) Unfounded fear of GMOs
2) Complete ignorance about the reason behind colony collapse disorder in bees
That's not to say that everyone in the US environmental movement bases their opinions on fear and ignorance, but it is pervasive with some.
Gratefully, there are other pillars like scientific research and education. However, when the science isn't there, we are sometimes treated to some amazing lies.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Because if you were you labeled yourself as being pilliared on unfounded fear and ignorance of the environmental movement.
Now you are bactracking pretty quickly from your bold, unfounded and ignorant statement. Good for you. Mistakes happen. You'll not forget this one, will you? Hope to never see such ignorant and unfounded statements again about people who are environmentalists. We have enough enemies.
You learn anything here?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)No, I am not backtracking from my original comment. I fully believe that fear and ignorance are two of the pillars of the US environmental movement. I am, however, distancing myself from your ridiculous insinuations.
By the way, I find the reactions to nuclear energy we find at DU to be propped up by the intentional spreading of fear and ignorance.
You get the last word.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Don't run away just yet with your tail between your legs...
You have identified two pillars of the environmental movement, can you tell us of any other pillars? Or are you ignorant of any other pillars?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Don't mouth off about something you have unfounded fears about and are ignorant of.
The American environmental movement is pillared by Muir, Leopold, land ethics, sustainability, information, observations, science, and feelings (we are only human).
It is not founded on profits, pollution, degradation, kicking our problems down the road, and dumping our wastes on our children.
Proceed, Buzz.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Most of the US population centers are located near the coasts. Ocean currents are much more reliable than wind currents. Turbines located in the oceans do not obstruct anyone's view and are not noisy. At end of life they can be removed more easily than they were installed. No storage or safety problems either. Nuclear and wind are not the best options. Solar on every roof top is a much better option than wind or nuclear too.
Cosmocat
(14,618 posts)it definitely can be part of the puzzle. Problem is the cost benefit.
I don't know how you get enough from wind short of turbines all over the place, and that is asking a lot.
Solar SHOULD be a bigger piece of the puzzle.
Gotta really focus on the technology and keep refining it.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I am with you. They need to refine the technology of nuclear waste. It is the most serious and long lasting problem that we are faced with. Burying it somewhere for the 1,000 years is not a solution.
So, yes, the technology needs to be refined and a real solution found for nuclear waste. Who is going to pay for it? And what happens if the tech never is refined?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)e?
We had a single 1000mw plant under construction in 2011. And 2012. Might be done by 2020.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-T-Z/USA--Nuclear-Power/#.UUNCK2bn-Uk
Four plants by 2020. Yay. Fun.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Nuclear power is clearly dangerous in on a planet that has an unpredictable environment.
Nuclear power is just plain flat out fucking stupid, and since we can't fix stupid, the only other option is to eliminate it.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)Акимов, Александр Фёдорович
1953-05-06
1986-05-10 radiation burns on 100% of body, caused by an estimated 15 Gray (Gy) dose. Unit #4 shift leader A senior reactor operator, at the controls in the control room at the time of the explosion; received fatal dose during attempts to restart feedwater flow into the reactor; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree.[8]
Ananenko, Alexei ?
1986-05/6-? acute radiation sickness engineer One of the three divers who opened the sluice gates allowing water to evacuate the basement below the reactor on May 1. Congratulated upon return, he died afterwards.
Baranov, Anatoly Ivanovich
Баранов, Анатолий Иванович
1953-06-13
1986-05-20 acute radiation sickness electrical engineer, senior electrician Posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree.[8]
Baranov, Boris ?
1986-05/6-? acute radiation sickness soldier One of the three divers (he carried a lamp, which later failed) who opened the sluice gates allowing water to evacuate the basement below the reactor on May 1. Congratulated upon return, he died afterwards.
Bezpalov, Valeri ?
1986-05/6-? acute radiation sickness engineer One of the three divers who opened the sluice gates allowing water to evacuate the basement below the reactor on May 1. Congratulated upon return, he died afterwards.
Brazhnik, Vyacheslav Stepanovych
Бражник, Вячеслав Степанович
1957-05-03
1986-05-14 acute radiation sickness turbine operator, senior turbine machinist operator In the turbine hall at the moment of explosion; received fatal dose (over 1000 rad) during firefighting and stabilizing the turbine hall, died in Moscow hospital; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree;[8] irradiated by a piece of fuel lodged on a nearby transformer of turbogenerator 7 during manual opening of the turbine emergency oil drain valves.
Degtyarenko, Viktor Mykhaylovych
Дегтяренко, Виктор Михайлович 1954-08-10
1986-05-19
acute radiation sickness reactor operator At the moment of explosion close to the pumps; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree,[8][12] face scalded by steam or hot water[13] .
Dyatlov, Anatoly Stepanovich
Дятлов, Анатолий Степанович 1931-03-03
1995-12-13 heart failure, possibly a delayed consequence of the 400 rads radiation Plant vice chief engineer Fomin's assistant; supervised the test, present in the control room at the moment of explosion; received about 400 rads when surveying the reactor damage from the outside with Nikolai Gorbachenko; radiation burns on face, right hand, legs; after the disaster stripped of Communist party membership, arrested in August 1986, spent a year in Kiev prison awaiting trial in August 1987; found guilty of gross violation of safety regulations, sentenced to 10 years of labor camp, released after five years.
Hanzhuk, Nikolai Aleksandrovich
Ганжук, Николай Александрович 1960-06-26
1986-10-02 helicopter crash helicopter pilot Was sent to help extinguish the fire of the reactor with a clay load from the air and helicopter crashed above the reactor. However, crash was not directly related to radiation exposure, as it is obvious from crash video [14] that helicopter rotor hit a construction cable.
Ignatenko, Vasyli Ivanovych
Игнатенко, Василий Иванович 1961-03-13
1986-05-13 acute radiation sickness fireman Senior sergeant, first crew on the reactor roof, received fatal dose during attempt to extinguish the roof and the reactor core, died two weeks later in Moscow Hospital 6[15]
Ivanenko, Yekaterina Alexandrovna
Иваненко, Екатерина Александровна 1932-09-11
1986-05-26 acute radiation sickness Pripyat city police guard Guarded a gate opposite to the Block 4, stayed on duty for the entire night until morning.[16]
Khodemchuk, Valery Ilyich
Ходемчук, Валерий Ильич 1951-03-24
1986-04-26 initial explosion main circulating pumps, senior operator Stationed in the southern main circulating pumps engine room, likely killed immediately; body never found, likely buried under the wreckage of the steam separator drums; has a memorial sign in the Reactor 4 building; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree.[8]
Khrystych, Leonid Ivanovych
Христич, Леонид Иванович 1953-02-28
1986-10-02 helicopter crash helicopter pilot Was sent to help extinguish the fire of the reactor with a clay load from the air and helicopter crashed above the reactor. However, crash was not directly related to radiation exposure, as it is obvious from crash video [14] that helicopter rotor hit a construction cable.
Kibenok, Viktor Mykolayovych
Кибенок, Виктор Николаевич 1963-02-17
1986-05-11 acute radiation sickness fireman Lieutenant, leader of the second unit, fighting fires in the reactor department, separator room, and the central hall; in 1987 posthumously named a Hero of the Soviet Union.
Konoval, Yuriy Ivanovych
Коновал, Юрий Иванович 1942-01-01
1986-05-28 acute radiation sickness electrician Posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree.[8]
Kudryavtsev, Aleksandr Gennadiyevych
Кудрявцев, Александр Геннадиевич 1957-12-11
1986-05-14 acute radiation sickness SIUR trainee Present in the control room at the moment of explosion; received fatal dose of radiation during attempt to manually lower the control rods as he looked directly to the open reactor core; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree.[8]
Kurguz, Anatoly Kharlampiyovych
Кургуз, Анатолий Харлампиевич 1957-06-12
1986-05-12 acute radiation sickness operator, central hall Scalded by radioactive steam entering his control room; his colleague, Oleg Genrikh, was spared the worst and survived.
Lelechenko, Aleksandr Grigoryevich
Лелеченко, Александр Григорьевич 1938-07-26
1986-05-07 fatal radiation exposure, 2500 rads plant worker, deputy chief of the electrical shop Former Leningrad power plant electrical shop shift leader;[17] at the central control room with Kukhar; at the moment of explosion just arrived to the block 4 control room;[18] in order to spare his younger colleagues a radiation exposure he himself went through radioactive water and debris three times to switch off the electrolyzers and the feed of hydrogen to the generators, then tried to supply voltage to feedwater pumps; after receiving first aid, returned to the plant and worked for several more hours. Died in Kiev hospital.
Lopatyuk, Viktor Ivanovich
Лопатюк, Виктор Иванович 1960-08-22
1986-05-17 acute radiation sickness electrician Received fatal dose during switching off the electrolyzer[19]
Luzganova, Klavdia Ivanovna
Лузганова, Клавдия Ивановна 1927-05-09
1986-07-31 radiation exposure, est. 600 rad Pripyat city police guard[10] Guarded the construction site of the spent fuel storage building about 200 meters from Block 4[16]
Novyk, Aleksandr Vasylyovych
Новик, Александр Васильевич 1961-08-11
1986-07-26 acute radiation sickness turbine equipment machinist-inspector Received fatal dose (over 1000 rad) during firefighting and stabilizing the turbine hall, died in Moscow hospital; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree;[8] irradiated by a piece of fuel lodged on a nearby transformer of the turbogenerator 7 during attempts to call the control room.
Orlov, Ivan Lukych
Орлов, Иван Лукич 1945-01-10
1986-05-13 acute radiation sickness physicist Received fatal dose during attempts to restart feedwater flow into the reactor.
Perchuk, Kostyantyn Grigorovich
Перчук, Константин Григорьевич 1952-11-23
1986-05-20 acute radiation sickness turbine operator, senior engineer In the turbine hall at the moment of explosion; received fatal dose (over 1000 rad) during firefighting and stabilizing the turbine hall, died in Moscow hospital; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree;[8] irradiated by a piece of fuel lodged on a nearby transformer of the turbogenerator 7 during manual opening of the turbine emergency oil drain valves.
Perevozchenko, Valery Ivanovich
Перевозченко, Валерий Иванович 1947-05-06
1986-06-13 acute radiation sickness foreman, reactor section Received fatal dose of radiation during attempt to locate and rescue Khodemchuk and others, and manually lower the control rods; together with Kudryavtsev and Proskuryakov he looked directly to the open reactor core, suffering radiation burns on side and back; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree.[8]
Popov, Georgi Illiaronovich
Попов, Георгий Илларионович 1940-02-21
1986-06-13 acute radiation sickness Kharkov turbine plant Vibration specialist, mobile laboratory in the car at Turbine 8; buried in Mitinskoe Cemetery.[3]
Pravik, Vladimir Pavlovych
Правик, Владимир Павлович 1962-06-13
1986-05-11 radiation burns fireman Lieutenant, first crew on the reactor roof, repeatedly visited the reactor and the roof of Unit C at Level 71 to supervise the firefighting; received fatal dose during attempt to extinguish the roof and the reactor core, died two weeks later in Moscow Hospital 6; his eyes are said to have been turned from brown to blue by the intensity of the radiation;[5] in 1987 posthumously named a Hero of the Soviet Union.
Proskuryakov, Viktor Vasilyevich
Проскуряков, Виктор Васильович 1955-04-09
1986-05-17 acute radiation sickness SIUR trainee Present in the control room at the moment of explosion; received fatal dose of radiation during attempt to manually lower the control rods as he looked directly to the open reactor core; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree;[8] 100% radiation burns.
Savenkov, Vladimir Ivanovych
Савенков, Владимир Иванович 1958-02-15
1986-05-21 acute radiation sickness Kharkov turbine plant Vibration specialist, mobile laboratory in the car at Turbine 8; first one to become sick; buried in Kharkov in a lead coffin.[3]
Shapovalov, Anatoliy Ivanovych
Шаповалов, Анатолий Иванович 1941-04-06
1986-05-19 acute radiation sickness electrician Posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree.[8]
Shashenok, Vladimir Nikolaevich
Шашенок, Владимир Николаевич 1951-04-21
1986-04-26 thermal and radiation burns, trauma Atomenergonaladka, adjuster of automatic systems (Chernobyl startup and adjustment enterprise) Stationed in Room 604, found pinned down under a fallen beam, with broken spine, broken ribs, deep thermal and radiation burns, and unconscious; died in hospital without regaining consciousness.
Shevchenko, Volodimir Mikitovich
Шевченко, Владимир Никитович 1929-12-23
1987-03-29 Cancer, complication of Acute Radiation Sickness Ukrainian Filmmaker A film maker who took much of the iconic footage of the early days in recovering from the Chernobyl disaster. He filmed the famous clip of the destruction of a helicopter when it clipped a guy wire while dropping sand on the open reactor; see Hanzhuk, Nikolai Aleksandrovich above. See a video of his work at.[20]
Sitnikov, Anatoly Andreyevich
Ситников, Анатолий Андреевич 1940-01-20
1986-05-30 acute radiation sickness deputy chief operational engineer, physicist Received fatal dose (about 1500 roentgens or 15 Sv), mostly to head, after being sent by Fomin to survey the reactor hall and look at the reactor from the roof of Unit C.
Telyatnikov, Leonid Petrovich
Телятников, Леонид Петрович 1951-01-25
2004-12-02 died of cancer, received an estimated 4 Gy firefighter Head of the plant fire department; in 1987 named a Hero of the Soviet Union.
Tishchura, Vladimir Ivanovych
Тищура, Владимир Иванович 1959-12-15
1986-05-10 radiation burns fireman Sergeant, Kibenok's unit, fighting fires in the reactor department, separator room, and the central hall.
Titenok, Nikolai Ivanovych
Титенок, Николай Иванович 1962-12-05
1986-05-16 radiation burns external and internal, incl. blistered heart fireman Senior sergeant, Kibenok's unit, fighting fires in the reactor department, separator room, and the central hall; received fatal dose during attempt to extinguish the roof and the reactor core, died two weeks later in Moscow Hospital 6.
Toptunov, Leonid Fedorovych
Топтунов, Леонид Федорович 1960-08-16
1986-05-14 acute radiation sickness SIUR, senior engineer for management of the reactor (reactor operator) In the control room at the reactor control panel at the moment of explosion, with Akimov; received fatal dose during attempts to restart feedwater flow into the reactor; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree.[8]
Vashchuk, Nikolai Vasilievich
Ващук, Николай Васильевич 1959-06-05
1986-05-14 fireman Sergeant, Kibenok's unit, fighting fires in the reactor department, separator room, and the central hall.
Vershynin, Yuriy Anatoliyovych
Вершинин, Юрий Анатольевич 1959-05-22
1986-07-21 acute radiation sickness Turbine equipment machinist-inspector In the turbine hall at the moment of explosion; received fatal dose (over 1000 rad) during firefighting and stabilizing the turbine hall, died in Moscow hospital; posthumously awarded the Order "For Courage" of third degree;[8] irradiated by a piece of fuel lodged on a nearby transformer of the turbogenerator 7 during attempts to call the control room.
Vorobyov, Volodymyr Kostyantynovych
1956-03-21
1986-10-02 helicopter crash helicopter crew Was sent to help extinguish the fire of the reactor with a clay load from the air and helicopter crashed above the reactor. However, crash was not directly related to radiation exposure, as it is obvious from crash video [14] that helicopter rotor hit a construction cable.
Yunhkind, Oleksandr Yevhenovych
1958-04-15
1986-10-02 helicopter crash helicopter crew Was sent to help extinguish the fire of the reactor with a clay load from the air and helicopter crashed above the reactor. However, crash was not directly related to radiation exposure, as it is obvious from crash video [14] that helicopter rotor hit a construction cable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Wait until China gets the cheaper solar cells in high production.
uponit7771
(90,398 posts)mainer
(12,042 posts)If you have proximity to a lake, and you use wind energy to pump water against gravity, that's stored energy.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)but storage is one of the areas we need to put more research into.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Just like paper always beats rock
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)malaise
(269,890 posts)Rec
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)midnight
(26,624 posts)Chuuku Davis
(565 posts)Is much more important than new sources.
How many leave their computers and TVs plugged in thru the day??
blogslut
(38,045 posts)Why can't we conserve and implement sustainable energy generation simultaneously?
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)I posted this elsewhere, but the following trends are already in place:
1 - Households are using less energy per unit due to better insulation, more efficient heating & cooling systems, and the switch out of incandescent bulbs.
2 - Young people are driving less due to being less infatuated with cars and more infatuated with their digital devices. Studies have shown this to be a lifetime effect: the less you drive when you're young, the less you'll drive over your lifetime.
3 - On the energy front, the move to wind and solar and out of coal to natural gas are all reducing the amount of CO2 pumped into the air.