Forbes: 1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation

[Fire Walk With Me]

Sorry, coyotl already posted it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022490336










Kimberly Boldt ?@FederalistNo2

Forbes: 1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/ … #policestate

The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, so far to little notice. It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. As reported elsewhere, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, along with a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending less than 6 million rounds a month. Therefore 1.6 billion rounds would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years. In America.

Add to this perplexing outré purchase of ammo, DHS now is showing off its acquisition of heavily armored personnel carriers, repatriated from the Iraqi and Afghani theaters of operation. As observed by “paramilblogger” Ken Jorgustin last September:

[T]he Department of Homeland Security is apparently taking delivery (apparently through the Marine Corps Systems Command, Quantico VA, via the manufacturer – Navistar Defense LLC) of an undetermined number of the recently retrofitted 2,717 ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ MaxxPro MRAP vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.”

These MRAP’s ARE BEING SEEN ON U.S. STREETS all across America by verified observers with photos, videos, and descriptions.”

(More at the link. Cross-posted from Occupy Underground.)

For more reading:

There are two important factors regarding the DHS/TSA which are rarely taken into consideration:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022486390

[jberryhill]

1. Ah, more circular sourcing

No, DHS did not buy 1.6 billion hollow point rounds.

Alex Jones is having a happy.

I love the way that Forbes "sourced" the story....

"The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article..."

Here is the actual procurement order:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?tab=documents&tabmode=form&subtab=core&tabid=8f94811bebcc3858acadf5ea338e0a9a

You'll notice that it is a contract to supply a variety of ammunition over a period of FIVE YEARS, and doesn't come anywhere near "1.6 billion" rounds of anything.

More info here:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c2d49b9bb0e5b55f3e7efdbc783e00fd&tab=core&_cview=1


aaaand the Forbes blogger recycling this Alex Jones crap:

http://www.thegoldstandardnow.org/about/ralph-j-benko


It is, indeed, a time for a national conversation on how bullshit conspiracy theories are spread, and how liars manage to gull people into believing them.

[Viking12]

2. "time for a national conversation on how bullshit conspiracy theories are spread"

deserved it's own subject line.