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Botany

(70,524 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:18 PM Mar 2013

Who is with me about having everybody in Congress and the POTUS take a 20% pay cut ....

Last edited Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:54 PM - Edit history (1)

..... and a 20% cut in health care benefits as long as we are going to have
"the sequester?"

We can all meet up @ Skinner's house tomorrow night to talk things over.

Thanx to DUer Freshwest's idea call you senators and congressperson and ask them
what kind of pay cut are they going to take?

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Who is with me about having everybody in Congress and the POTUS take a 20% pay cut .... (Original Post) Botany Mar 2013 OP
count me out on austerity bullshit in all of its manifestations. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #1
And link each of their future pay raise to a corresponding increase to SS and the Min. Wage. Vincardog Mar 2013 #2
+1 MiniMe Mar 2013 #25
I say don't pay them at all still_one Mar 2013 #3
I agree. Most of them are part of the 1% so they don't really need their pay. n/t bluethruandthru Mar 2013 #15
Seize their personal assets to cover the needy being affected by this. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #4
they wrote themselves and admendment back in the 90's to protect their pay 2Design Mar 2013 #5
Not quite Jbradshaw120 Mar 2013 #16
You would force them nineteen50 Mar 2013 #19
"more controlled" isn't possible. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #30
And submit to frequent drug testing.. pipoman Mar 2013 #6
Most effective thing to do as those I know being furloughed are doing - call your Senator and your freshwest Mar 2013 #7
good point! Botany Mar 2013 #8
you can bet that's just beginning bigtree Mar 2013 #11
Yup, to say we should decrease their TOTAL WEALTH to a minimum wage annuity. Festivito Mar 2013 #29
Tammy Duckworth to take 8.4 percent pay cut bigtree Mar 2013 #9
I don't agree with having Obama take a cut... Drunken Irishman Mar 2013 #10
I agree that President Obama has been working and that the sequester is not his fault ... Botany Mar 2013 #13
This whole thing is designed to extend the depression Lordquinton Mar 2013 #26
This is a very bad idea - it assures that only the very rich can afford to serve in Government 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #12
You are correct. My post above was not to ask them to take a pay cut. The ones who will do it out of freshwest Mar 2013 #14
I agree, they need some "skin in the game" BuelahWitch Mar 2013 #17
I don't think we can cut their pay....but I think their budgets can be cut Fresh_Start Mar 2013 #18
Kill their lifelong pensions the way their 1% owners have killed ours. nt valerief Mar 2013 #20
+1000 and require them to use SS. littlewolf Mar 2013 #35
Pay cut for the President? Nonsense. No way. Maineman Mar 2013 #21
what about our dignity donnasgirl Mar 2013 #22
THAT should have been step one of "SEQUESTRATION" Skittles Mar 2013 #23
Duckworth Cuts Own Pay Over Sequestration Milliesmom Mar 2013 #24
Congress is full of millionaires RILib Mar 2013 #27
20%?? How about 100%? 99Forever Mar 2013 #28
Just do away with the outrageous pensions they get. deaniac21 Mar 2013 #31
They are the real leaches sucking on the tax payer entitlement teet. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #32
They don't listen to us anyway. Loge23 Mar 2013 #33
On the congressional side... RudynJack Mar 2013 #34
I think I signed a petition about this a few days ago. MoonRiver Mar 2013 #36
May I suggest an alternative? Those in Congress with a conscience could donate 8.4% to a Charity. Hugin Mar 2013 #37

2Design

(9,099 posts)
5. they wrote themselves and admendment back in the 90's to protect their pay
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:38 PM
Mar 2013

they made it so no one could change their pay

Jbradshaw120

(80 posts)
16. Not quite
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:16 PM
Mar 2013

The admendment allows for pay changes, but it can. It be affective until the next congress. That is a good thing it stops pay from being used as a bludgeon to make poorer members do as they are told or get no pay. My senator Jon Tester has a decent net worth, but it really is in his farm. He does not have a big bank account

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Most effective thing to do as those I know being furloughed are doing - call your Senator and your
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:47 PM
Mar 2013
Governor and raise hell.

With all due respect and no offense meant, sincerely, these solutions are not going to affect anything. We're just venting online.

Vent where it'll do some good. I've seen results from it in the past.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
11. you can bet that's just beginning
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:54 PM
Mar 2013

. . . and will intensify as folks out here realize how they're being robbed.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
29. Yup, to say we should decrease their TOTAL WEALTH to a minimum wage annuity.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:11 PM
Mar 2013

Eh, I'll be nice. 20% above minimum wage for them.

Botany

(70,524 posts)
13. I agree that President Obama has been working and that the sequester is not his fault ...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:06 PM
Mar 2013

.... but "the optics" would look bad if the President didn't take a hit too.

Cut the Congressional staffers' pay too ..... they would then get on their bosses
about getting something done.

This whole thing just stinks because:
1) The deficit is going down already

http://blog.ourfuture.org/20130226/deficit-is-falling-dramatically-but-only-6-know-that

"Once again, because it might be hard to register due to the drumbeat of deficit-scare propaganda, this is a fact: the deficit is falling at the fastest rate since the end of World War II. It is down about 50 percent as a percent of GDP just since Bush’s huge $1.4 trillion fiscal 2009 deficit. And the deficit is projected to be stable for a decade."

2) The republicans did not care when W ran 2 wars off the books, gave two series of tax cuts to the rich (Dick Cheney
deficits don't matter), and had a huge unfunded medicare part D prescription plan.

3) This is no way to run a government .... one crisis to the next

4) Some republicans are hoping this sequester will crush the economy so they can blame Obama for the
people's pain.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
26. This whole thing is designed to extend the depression
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:53 PM
Mar 2013

if they can again shock the economy and keep people from spending, they will be able to prove them selves correct. Can we call them economic terriosts yet?

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
12. This is a very bad idea - it assures that only the very rich can afford to serve in Government
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:57 PM
Mar 2013

Why pay them anything at all, it should be an honor to serve, right? Well, if you don't pay them enough to go to Washington, keep a place to live there, do the travel necessary for the job, and stay in touch with their constituents then all you will have is people who do not need the paycheck to do the job - the very wealthy. Now I know as well as anyone that its already true that most of our congress-critters are rich we certainly don't need to shoot ourselves in the foot by making it entirely an institution of the rich.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. You are correct. My post above was not to ask them to take a pay cut. The ones who will do it out of
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:10 PM
Mar 2013
Solidarity with the furloughed workers, are NOT the ones who created this mess.

Those who did this are independently wealthy and laugh at such sacrifices. Thanks for expressing that so well.


BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
17. I agree, they need some "skin in the game"
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:34 PM
Mar 2013

Obama should have written that into the sequester, then it never would have happened. No election for more than 18 months. They get to slide by unscathed.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
18. I don't think we can cut their pay....but I think their budgets can be cut
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:42 PM
Mar 2013

did you realize that congress has over 24,000 staffers? I say 50% cut in staffers and in two more weeks in no resolution, another 50% cut in staffers and again two more weeks after that.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
28. 20%?? How about 100%?
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:10 PM
Mar 2013

Tho there isn't any chance of it happening. They just plain don't give a fuck what we think. Shut the fuck up and starve.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
33. They don't listen to us anyway.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:36 PM
Mar 2013

The kleptocracy that runs this country doesn't give a tinkers cuss what we think.
We lost this country some time ago and now all we can do is hope for the best.

Hugin

(33,167 posts)
37. May I suggest an alternative? Those in Congress with a conscience could donate 8.4% to a Charity.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:34 AM
Mar 2013

Like the Delegate from D.C. is planning to do...

"Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-D.C.: The non-voting representative from Washington, D.C., said she will donate a day’s pay for each day federal employees are furloughed -- matching the highest number of furlough days by any agency -- to the Federal Employee Education and Assistance Fund."

Granted, having a choice where the money goes is more than the Federal Workers get, but, the Voters would be watching for any hanky-panky like donating to a PAC and calling it a charity.

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