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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:10 AM Jan 2012

"There are some of you in this room, I would venture to guess, who have ripped apart families."



LUTZ, Fla. -- Newt and Callista Gingrich walked into the massive Idlewild Baptist Church here Sunday morning and sat in the third row of pews to hear a sermon that touched at points on themes central to Gingrich's biography: personal mistakes, betrayal of one's closest relations, and a search for forgiveness.

"There are some of you in this room, I would venture to guess, who have ripped apart families," said the preacher, Russell Moore, the dean of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Moore's message -- focused on the sanctity of human life -- was one of forgiveness and the grace of God.

Gingrich, the former House speaker from Georgia, has said he has gone to God over his two adulterous relationships and three marriages.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/29/newt-gingrich-florida_n_1240392.html
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"There are some of you in this room, I would venture to guess, who have ripped apart families." (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Jan 2012 OP
How convenient for these sick punks CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #1
From the same people who thought (and still think) Bill Clinton's adultery was unforgiveable bluestateguy Jan 2012 #2
Exactly. It really pisses me off that HillWilliam Jan 2012 #9
Let me start by saying how much I dislike Gingrich RZM Jan 2012 #3
"He can't even run his own life... Amerigo Vespucci Jan 2012 #4
Why did they go to a Baptist church? They're not Baptists, they're both Catholics. Tx4obama Jan 2012 #5
Why do they do anything? xfundy Jan 2012 #6
Fundie church = Fundie votes. Amerigo Vespucci Jan 2012 #7
Shrug Broderick Jan 2012 #8

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
1. How convenient for these sick punks
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:19 AM
Jan 2012

They get to do *anything* they want to *anyone*--their wives, their children--and all they have
to do is go talk to their imaginary friend--and they are absolved.

I really, really despise this aspect of religion more than any other.

Religion teaches you that all you have to do is have a conversation in your own head--to your
big daddy in the sky--and all is right with the world. You don't even have to be accountable to
your victims. You don't have to apologize or make it right.

Just have a two-way conversation in your own head with a supreme being--and that makes it
all a-ok.

How many adulterers, violent abusers, pedophiles and narcissists who have destroyed lives--maybe
even for generations to come---have never been held accountable because of this noxious, amoral
belief that "all is well" if we take 30 seconds to have a mental conversation about it?

It really sickens me!

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
2. From the same people who thought (and still think) Bill Clinton's adultery was unforgiveable
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:30 AM
Jan 2012

These people can show remarkable levels of forgiveness and compassion to white male conservative Christian heterosexuals, but anybody else need not apply.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
3. Let me start by saying how much I dislike Gingrich
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:41 AM
Jan 2012

He's the worst of the entire Republican field. And that's counting everybody who has dropped out too.

But I will say that as I grew from a child into an adolescent, I started to learn how many adults have skeletons like this in their closets. Cheating, being the 'other man/woman' (which is almost as bad, BTW), failing to be there when those who care about you need you most, etc.

I've done all of it myself. I've left people who needed me and I've been left by people I thought I needed.

But honestly, my beef with Gingrich isn't really his personal life, though that's fodder that I can't resist sometimes. It's his political life, which is just as full of duplicity as his personal life, if not more so. While I can honestly say I haven't conducted my personal life as badly as Gingrich as his, I have to admit I'm not perfect. Alot of other people across the political spectrum who don't like Gingrich would probably have to admit the same.

What I can say is that I haven't conducted my professional life at all the way Gingrich has. And that's where we should focus our criticism, because in the end, that's why he shouldn't be president.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
4. "He can't even run his own life...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:49 AM
Jan 2012

...I'll be damned if he'll run mine."



SUNSHINE
Jonathan Edwards


Sunshine, go away today
I don't feel much like dancin'
Some man's come, he's tried to run my life
Don't know what he's asking

He tells me I better get in line,
Can't hear what he's sayin'
When I grow up, I'm gonna make him mind
These ain't dues I've been payin'

How much does it cost? I'll buy it
The time is all we've lost, I'll try it
He can't even run his own life
I'll be damned if he'll run mine, Sunshine...

Sunshine go away today
I don't feel much like dancin'
Some man's come, he's tried to run my life
Don't know what he's askin'

Workin' starts to make me wonder where
Fruits of what I do are going
When he says in love and war all is fair
He's got cards he ain't showin'

How much does it cost? I'll buy it
The time is all we've lost, I'll try it
He can't even run his own life
I'll be damned if he'll run mine, Sunshine...

Sunshine, come on back another day
I promise you I'll be singing
This old world, she's gonna turn around
Brand new bells'll be ringing

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
6. Why do they do anything?
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 05:19 AM
Jan 2012

To pander to the idiots who are dumb enough to vote for the Grinch. Moon colonies in NASA-ville, FL, ignorant fundies everywhere.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
7. Fundie church = Fundie votes.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:55 AM
Jan 2012

Santorum's getting the press for being the guy the evangelicals will turn to if Newt AND Mitt implode. Newt can't have that...can he?

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