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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor the grammar police: One space after periods, people
My life is so perfect that today, I got to ranting on Twitter about people still using double spacing after periods. As is always the case when I do that, people pushed back, claiming that TWO spaces was the correct way, and that they hadn't gotten the memo about the rule change.
But they are wrong. It's one space.
Every modern typographer agrees on the one-space rule. It's one of the canonical rules of the profession, in the same way that waiters know that the salad fork goes to the left of the dinner fork and fashion designers know to put men's shirt buttons on the right and women's on the left. Every major style guideincluding the Modern Language Association Style Manual and the Chicago Manual of Styleprescribes a single space after a period. (The Publications Manual of the American Psychological Association, used widely in the social sciences, allows for two spaces in draft manuscripts but recommends one space in published work.)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/12/1186652/-One-space-after-periods-people
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Kolesar
(31,182 posts)R U sure... learned two spaces in typing 101...brb
--sent from a non mobile device--
Phillip McCleod
(1,837 posts)and newspapers before that. always one space. going back to linotype.. one space. i would say that very many of us had bad typing teachers who simply didn't know any better.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)There was no exception. This was to break the sentences up more clearly, making it easier for the eye to discern end of one thought and beginning of the next.
Certain industries have their own standards, however, that do not go by standard English punctuation and grammar rules. I don't know about magazines, but they may have their own standards because of limited space and the nature of magazines. I took a journalism course years ago, though, and I don't recall that it was standard to use one space after the end of a sentence.
I work in the legal business. It is still the standard to use two spaces after a period indicating end of a sentence. It is formal business English grammar and punctuation. I imagine it will eventually change, but it hasn't yet.
Atman
(31,464 posts)YOU are the exception to which you refer. Two spaces after a period ONLY applies to old school mono spaced typewriters. Law offices usually submit briefs it standard mono-spaced font, so that every version can referenced as "paragraph x, line x," and it is consistent no matter which typewriter was used.
But who gives a crap about IBM Selectric typewriter fonts anymore? Real typography dictates ONE space after a period.
Phillip McCleod
(1,837 posts)it was my job to remove double spaces after periods. period. maybe some people have done it wrong anyway, but as others have pointed out in this thread, every single style guide specifies one space.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)just teasing
hlthe2b
(102,502 posts)rule is meaningless. Regardless, it is not a "grammar" issue.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)In long-hand, one does not think of "single space" or "double space."
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)That rule is wrong for today. One space.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.5em; font-family:monospace;"]If you're using a monospace font, like on an old typewriter, where every character has the same width, it's harder to see intentional spacing between words and sentences. This is why the convention of two spaces after the period ending a sentence was developed.
However, today's fonts are proportional width, where a "W" is wider than an "i". With these fonts, and modern font-rendering, the computer will automatically use the correct amount of space between words, so you only need one space. In fact, your web browser will automatically strip the second space after a period if it exists.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)angel823
(409 posts)I could never really understand this argument. I am older, and initially learned to type on a typewriter (IBM Selectric) in high school. Two spaces after the period was the rule. Or so I was taught. It's funny, I just automatically space twice after a period! Hard habit to break.
Since I have worked in various IT jobs over the years, this explanation makes sense to me and will probably motivate me to try and use just one space for awhile, just for fun.
Angel in Texas
tblue
(16,350 posts)Amazing that this is such a point of contention. Let me see if I can do it. Whoa. It's unnatural.
Delphinus
(11,845 posts)Guess I'm showing my age, eh?
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)day"ish.
hlthe2b
(102,502 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)But I recognize the MLA Style Manual as the best authority on such things, and if it says one space, then I concede that my habit is in error (at the moment, at least).
-Laelth
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)It's hard to quit it when I've been typing that way for decades.
I hope no one's distracted by my spacing and thinks since I'm an idiot nothing I'm typing is important
I should start hitting return after each sentence. No, I'll try to change my habit I guess, hope I remember.
firehorse
(755 posts)northoftheborder
(7,575 posts)This is not exactly writing to be published. I think reading on the computer is harder than on paper, also. That is why so many, including me, have started making much more frequent paragraph breaks. It is just easier to read a long piece with frequent breaks on the computer page.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I typed for ages with two spaces after a period. I'm pretty much over that habit, but I still sometimes find myself doing it.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Now improper homophones and bad spelling is another story.
My pet peevee is lightEning instead of lightning.
savebigbird
(417 posts)LOLOLOLOLOL
TM99
(8,352 posts)It is all arbitrary. Typographers make up shit. Modern isn't always better. Know your audience. Know who is publishing you. As a member of the APA, yes, I use two spaces as I am doing here. You want to follow or need to follow MLA or CMS, then do a single-space. Habrace simply says to be consistent. If you are following a modern convention and use a single-space then do so through the entire writing. However, two spaces are just fine as well. As my parents were professors of English and I grew up on the Harbrace, I will follow their advice, thanks.
But get off the holy high horse of bullshit history that never was.
actslikeacarrot
(464 posts)Had NO idea of the history behind typography. And as an experiment, I went to my personal collection of books and checked the spacing after periods. All my older books from the 1940's and before had a larger space after sentences, while my newer books had the same spacing. Never even noticed ha ha
Atman
(31,464 posts)It is not up to your preference. In modern typography (ie; not old typewriters or lead type), two spaces after a period is not a "preference." It is an error.
Things change. No one looks at your two spaces and says "oh, I admire how he adheres to tradition." If they notice at all, they assume you just aren't up on technology.
I learned conventional typing in Jr. High, too. Some good memories, but I got over 'em.
Unlesz you're still touch tying on your old Remington...
typography is not grammar, punctuation, or style.
Style guides for the various schools and professions will determine which typography will be required. If one requires single-space (Chicago or MLA) then you use single-space. If one does not or allows for a choice in preference (such as Harbrace or APA) then consistency is what is required. If you are doing it for personal communications that are non-professional, do what you want.
I work in several professional fields including programming and development with advanced technology. I seriously doubt any one will consider me 'not up on technology' if given a choice, I choose the typography convention that has been in consistent use for hundreds of years versus the illusory belief of typologists and graphic designers today who erroneously believe that because it is 'modern' it is 'better'.
So if you have chosen to change what you were taught, fine by me, but please do not confuse personal choice with 'right' choice.
savebigbird
(417 posts)I feel so rebellious!
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)Make7
(8,543 posts)Squinch
(51,080 posts)Like, with bananas and everything. Or not?
Edit: well shoot! I tried a spacing joke in there, but the damn computer corrected it!
avebury
(10,953 posts)after a period makes it look like sentences are shoved together. It kind of reminds me of someone who is a motormouth who talks a long time between taking a breath. When I am online like here on DU, a single space after a period looks ok.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,213 posts)And youre right it looks like someone who just talks on and on and on and on and never really says anything as if theyre paid by the word and who never even really pays a lot of attention about punctuation or spelling like I really get torqued at people who use loose when they mean lose but Im digressing here because I really want to comment on the single space versus double space issue because I too learned to type in the olden days on a manual typewriter that had a sticking "A" key and Id always have to stop mid paper to reach up and flip back all the keys that had clustered together and Id get frustrated and hit the typewriter and that would anger the instructor which is why I only got a "B" even though I could type like greasy lightning except for that damned "A" key but anyway I remember being taught to always use a double-space after a period which I still do if Im using a monospace font but I've broken the habit when using proportional fonts even though I still sometimes have a problem with brevity and staying on subject which is probably something else altogether but anyway Ive now progressed to the point where Im paid for the cogency and accuracy of my statements which probably explains why I haven't made a dime writing anything.
*gasping breath*
So, uh... what were we talking about again?
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)It will help you take deeper breaths. Excellent rant, by the way.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)T h a n k s f o r t h e r e m i n d e r .
lunatica
(53,410 posts)they were supposed to be focused on. Which means that then I had to again find the correct spot which caused me to lose your train of thought and my patience. Perhaps in actual hard copy the one space works, but online it doesn't.
As a web designer I can tell you that it's much easier to read when there's more white space.
Frankly I prefer the two spaces after the period. It's fucking easier on the eyes.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Then it posted as if I was using one.
I also use two spaces when I can to create a new paragraph. I like white space.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I haven't seen one of those since 1990. The last typewriter repair shop that I know of closed around 2000.
ananda
(28,894 posts)However, sure, it's faster typing and a more efficient use of space to put one space after a period... and I don't think it affects reading all that much, though I think you'd find a definite improvement in reading ability with two spaces after a period. In my case, I know I would because my brain is trained to expect things by which to read pauses and inflections.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)DU changes double spacing after a period to one space when you type two spaces. Having learned to type in the 70's, and typing business letters and documents for many years I'm in the habit of always double spacing. I've noticed years ago that DU auto-corrects double spacing to single spacing once the post button is activated. I'm double spacing what I'm typing in this very post, yet it will auto-correct to single spacing... which I happen to dislike as single spacing to me just doesn't separate sentences well enough.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)don't tell my boss about this. i'm always correcting his single space after a sentence. i agree it's easier to read, especially since tnr characters don't take up equal space. i wish all fonts were like courier!
gvstn
(2,805 posts)From what I can tell almost all boards or other non word-proccessing software auto-corrects the two spaces to one. So it doesn't make any difference. Yes, it is more efficient to use one space but in the finished product it all comes out the same way.
I haven't broken the habit, yet. But I do understand the reasoning.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)you can add & non-breaking space (use & then add the first letters of non-breaking space) for the second space to actually show up. I noticed DU doing that years ago and got out of the habit of bothering with the second space because of that. It really does look better though.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I hate machines that correct my stuff, like that stupid autocorrect on the iPad. I spend more time going back and fixing their stupid errors than I do actually typing something.
Make7
(8,543 posts)...by adding the following CSS:
[div class="excerpt" style="display:inline-block; margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"][font color="#000055"][div style="white-space:pre-wrap;"][/font]text here[font color="#000055"][/div][/font]
[div style="white-space:pre-wrap;"]One drawback with that code is that hitting enter will cause two line breaks instead of a single one. Which sort of makes sense from a typing standpoint - hit enter once and you get a new paragraph with a singe line between the previous one - but the text looks different in the text entry box and the preview/post since in the text entry field there won't be an empty line between paragraphs.[div style="width:100%; height:1em; border-bottom:1px solid #bbbbbb;"]
You can also turn auto-correction off on your iPad.
Settings > General > Keyboard > Auto-Correction > Off
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I really don't care that much about the spaces but the autocorrect drives me crazy.
tledford
(917 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)"The typist may wish to continue using two spaces after a period, but the typographer should not."
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2011/08/15/mind-your-en-and-em-dashes-typographic-etiquette/
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Ain't gonna change now.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)First, I learned that way. I could change, but haven't because of reason # 2: it's easier to read. I teach my students to use two spaces. Why? I have to read many, many papers. Two spaces reduces the eye strain.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)And I will never, NEVER give in!
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I like my knuckles. I don't like people telling me that the rules changed and insisting I go along with it. I also won't wear white after Labor Day. Shoot me.
That's what was drilled into my head in typing class.
no_hypocrisy
(46,287 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I use two spaces after a period. Period.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Does a puppy die somewhere?
LiberalFighter
(51,282 posts)5 Republicans get arrested and go to jail for using cocaine
Chellee
(2,104 posts)Well. I believe. My sentences will. Become significantly shorter. In the future.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)It automatically strips the extra space. So ". Blah" becomes ". Blah".
But if you use the character, you can force the browser to explicitly display an extra space. This way, you can help things along. So, every time a sentence is ended with two spaces after the period, a Republican dies? I only want to do my share. I'm just trying to be helpful. I wouldn't want modern technology to undermine my efforts.
name not needed
(11,660 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,227 posts)Have you even seen Twitter?
Why waste your time? Double spacing after periods is the least of your worries there.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I rarely ever even see any punctuation on Twitter.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Even on the innernettes, precious few people have such an acute lack of self-awareness...
jsr
(7,712 posts)Tee hee
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Proportional fonts have proper spacing. If you're typing on a computer and not using Courier or another monospaced font, you should be using a single space after a full stop.
The problem is that there are quite a lot of people who learnt to type on typewriters whose obsolete spacing habits not only get passed on but are bizarrely insisted upon (see: the number of teachers who insist that any assignments/papers have double spacing despite the fact that it's not been "correct" for some time now).
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,282 posts)Double spaces are automatically shorten to single spaces when posting to this board.
Double spaces are automatically shorten to single spaces when creating webpages using html. Unless you know the tricks to get those extra spaces to show.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)FightForMichigan
(232 posts)NO OXFORD COMMA, NO MERCY
(and no apostraphe on a plural!)
Orrex
(63,261 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)I learned typing in HS over 40 years ago, and we did double spacing after periods. After all these years, it's a habit.
Also...my eyes are getting older and it's often very hard for me to see the ends and beginnings of sentences without that double space.
If someone doesn't bother capitalizing the first letter of the next sentence, or writes in long paragraphs, or even capitalizes words that shouldn't be capitalized, it's painful to read what they've written. And I won't bother.
So I say to people...if you care about people actually reading what you write, make it easy for them to read it. If you just want to write for the sake of writing something, go ahead and make it difficult. Just don't complain when many people don't pay attention. And don't, FGS, accuse them of having a reading comprehension problem. I say that to people in general, not to you personally.
Tyrs WolfDaemon
(2,289 posts)My parents made sure that I learned to type on the (at the time) brand new Apple 2 (We even had a giant card in it that expanded the memory to 128k! ). For that reason I will always use two spaces. If this is wrong on my part, tough $hit. It will be a new way for me to spread chaos upon the face of the earth.
This message has been brought to you by the Brotherhood of Evil Hydrogeologists as we expand our evil to typography.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)The most hated font in the world!
Tyrs WolfDaemon
(2,289 posts)We always need more ways to be evil.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I will not be moved on this score!
Now, if we could only get people to write in complete and coherent sentences, this argument might actually be important...
freshwest
(53,661 posts)And I'll probably keep using two spaces because it's what I use on my own word processing files. Helps with astigmatism to have the spaces between sentences.
The paragraphs help to present thoughts instead of doing the insane internet posting thing. Too many lines of text and I give up usually.
My question is, what about those periods at the end of paragraphs or representing snippets online?
I use 3 periods then, and when wanting to show a pause for thought. I see some use 2 or 4. The 4 really bugs me. I wonder if it has a significance?
Here's the obligatory lol cat:
fried eggs
(910 posts)in between sentences because they compose messages on their phone.
formercia
(18,479 posts)the spaces won't matter one iota.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Not true. The APA style suggests two spaces, which is what I used in college.
Not that it means anything on the internet...
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)you have an IPad with a mind of its own?
TlalocW
(15,394 posts)We had to buy some guideline that everyone agreed set the standard on how to do things on punctuation, endnotes, footnotes, etc. I can't remember the name of it. The teacher said that they come out with new guidelines every few years so people have to buy a new one. I learned two spaces after a period and a colon, and I will do that until the day I die!
TlalocW
TlalocW
(15,394 posts)That putting two spaces after a period is doubleplusungood.
TlalocW
BainsBane
(53,116 posts)Take a pill. This is the internet. You need something more important to worry about in life.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)1) In most proportional spacing systems, the extra space DOES make a difference. White space is apportioned throughout the line, and a double space will usually get more width than a single space.
2) The most popular web browsers actually DO have a problem with the double spaces. They do NOT ignore repetitive spaces. If a line happens to wrap right at the end of a sentence with a double space, you will normally see the next line begin with a space.
Those are facts. Now for opinions:
1) Screw the typesetters.
2) It is easier to read documents where the sentences are more clearly delineated with the extra space.
3) For web apps, you really need to stick to one space because the space-at-the-beginning problem is really annoying.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)mattclearing
(10,091 posts)It's an arbitrary and unnecessary rule. If you, or anyone else, have nothing better to do than argue about it, have fun. I prefer using two-spaces; I prefer the look of two spaces, and I'm going to continue to do it because I can. It's not spelling and it's not even grammar, and the importance of this distinction is negligible. This is a controversy of dubious merit, and I question the priorities of people who really care about it.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Just check any magazine on the newsstand and you will not see 2 spaces after the end of a sentence. Or look at any book and you will see only one space after a period.
kskiska
(27,051 posts)There's a visual aspect to this. Try setting a long justified paragraph with two spaces after periods. You end up with "rivers" of white space throughout, since spaces between words are apportioned as to the number of words on each line. Some lines will have more space between words than others. Take a look at any newspaper, magazine, or book. The two-space rule was strictly for old monotype typewriters. You'd never get a job as a typesetter if you insert two spaces after periods.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I was a secretary my entire working life and a court transcriptionist for 10 years (where the rules were very strict and they insisted on two spaces after a sentence). I'm going to continue to use two spaces and hope someone doesn't like it.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)So I spell something wrong. So I misuse a period. So what?
You think I am stoopid because I did that? So what.
Life is too short. I am living mine. You're too busy worrying about a period.
(not a direct attack on you)
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)frogmarch
(12,161 posts)Really? I didn't know that. Back in the olden days it was two spaces after a period. Oh, well, okay.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and I'm too fucking old to change now. Two spaces and be sure to stew long and hard about it.
llmart
(15,565 posts)but you're wrong. I had a job interview today and there was a typing test involved and the HR person told me not to forget that it's two spaces between a period and the next word. I already knew that since I learned how to type in 1965 so I had no problem with it.
Wow.
Auggie
(31,230 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)when I was working for the government we did two spaces. When did it change?
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Maybe I am just too old. Maybe I have been typing for at least 45 years and I will not change. Maybe it was drilled into me for years to use two spaces at the end of a sentence.
Whatever the reason, I refuse to use one space at the end of a sentence. Go ahead and beat on me.
Ilsa
(61,710 posts)I've been trying very hard to remember that. But it isn't always easy to break a habit. And sometimes my fingers don't work right.
gulliver
(13,200 posts)Rules are rules, etc.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)At least according to most lawyers and judges.
Formal business still uses two spaces. The internet world uses one. Ha...I see by habit I used two spaces just now. But truth is, I often use one space on the internet. But in formal business, I use two.
Either way is considered correct, I believe...at least when I looked it up.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)and the rule was two spaces. The GPO style manual was our bible. If things have changed, I don't care, nobody's paying me to type or edit now and I won't knock myself out to remember when typing is an automatic function for me.
And I detected a distinct whiff of age-ism in that Kos post.
Lex
(34,108 posts)because I like it like that. The Chicago Manual of Style can get off my lawn!
pokerfan
(27,677 posts) Use italics, not underlining, for case names and emphasis. Case names are not underlined in the United States Reports, the Solicitor Generals briefs, or law reviews, for good reason. Underlining masks the descenders (the bottom parts of g, j, p, q, and y). This interferes with reading, because we recognize characters by shape. An underscore makes characters look more alike, which not only slows reading but also impairs comprehension.
Use real typographic quotes ( and ) and real apostrophes (), not foot and inch marks. Reserve straight ticks for feet, inches, and minutes of arc.
Put only one space after punctuation. The typewriter convention of two spaces is for monospaced type only. When used with proportionally spaced type, extra spaces lead to what typographers call riverswide, meandering areas of white space up and down a page. Rivers interfere with the eyes movement from one word to the next.
Do not justify your text unless you hyphenate it too. If you fully justify unhyphenated text, rivers result as the word processing or page layout pro- gram adds white space between words so that the margins line up.
Do not justify monospaced type. Justification is incompatible with equal character widths, the defining feature of a monospaced face. If you want vari- able spacing, choose a proportionally spaced face to start with. Your computer can justify a monospaced face, but it does so by inserting spaces that make for big gaps between (and sometimes within) words. The effects of these spaces can be worse than rivers in proportionally spaced type.
Indent the first line of each paragraph ¼ inch or less. Big indents disrupt the flow of text. The half-inch indent comes from the tab key on a typewriter. It is never used in professionally set type, where the normal indent is one em (the width of the letter m).
Cut down on long footnotes and long block quotes. Because block quotes and footnotes count toward the type volume limit, these devices do not affect the length of the allowable presentation. A brief with 10% text and 90% foot- notes complies with Rule 32, but it will not be as persuasive as a brief with the opposite ratio.
Avoid bold type. It is hard to read and almost never necessary. Use italics instead. Bold italic type looks like you are screaming at the reader.
Avoid setting text in all caps. The convention in some state courts of set- ting the parties names in capitals is counterproductive. All-caps text attracts the eye (so does boldface) and makes it harder to read what is in between yet what lies between the parties names is exactly what you want the judge to read. All-caps text in outlines and section captions also is hard to read, even worse than underlining. Capitals all are rectangular, so the reader cant use shapes (including ascenders and descenders) as cues. Underlined, all- caps, boldface text is almost illegible.
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/Rules/type.pdf
Squinch
(51,080 posts)BainsBane
(53,116 posts)Did we just transport back 50 years in history?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Besides, spellcheck says it's ok. Even Firefox says it's ok!
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)So some honchos with pull, at some point got together and decided they wanted it different -- I really don't care what they want. It looks better and is clearer too.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)more than a half century ago. Two spaces after a period.
Recently I joined a group of aspiring writers. None of them seem to know the basics of manuscript formatting, which is horrifying. Oh, and one of them used a font that with only one space after the period was harder to read, to see where one sentence ended and the next one began.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,786 posts)I could write you a 30-page manifesto on all the English, spelling, grammatical, and punctuation errors people make every day and have no idea they're making. I was taught by my high school typing teacher that you use two spaces after a period. Not only will I continue to do it until my dying day out of habit, but I just plain think it makes paragraphs easier to read.
How many people still put two spaces after a colon like they're supposed to? Or two spaces between the State and the ZIP Code in an address?
The fact that dumbed-down English, etc. is starting to just be accepted because dumb, lazy people outnumber everyone else doesn't mean I have to start doing it too.
Throd
(7,208 posts)They are also poor tippers and never return that CD they "borrowed".
Dorian Gray
(13,517 posts)but old habits die hard. It's just instinctual to type two spaces after a period. For me. It's just. The way.
lynne
(3,118 posts)- needs to find something to do with their life. Push away from the computer and go volunteer with the elderly, the sick, the homeless. Work at a soup kitchen or a shelter for battered women. Volunteer at an animal shelter. Do something to fill that void in your life that compels you to search out forum postings for a space-after-period audit.
Or go check with a physician about your OCD disorder. Maybe they can prescribe you some meds to help with that.
ashling
(25,771 posts)raccoon
(31,131 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)One that gets to the heart of the problem.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)One space or two spaces after punctuation depends upon the typeface, I think. I really don't care about what's considered "in style." My concern is legibility and clarity of communication. I believe, given a decent proportionally spaced font, two spaces is unnecessary. You already have a punctuation mark followed by a space followed by an upper case letter. If that's not enough to readily indicate the beginning of a new sentence then either change fonts or by all means feel free to insert an extra space.
Times New Roman is lovely.... when printed in narrow columns ala a newspaper. This is because it's a rather cramped font, overly proportional, if you will. Works great in newspaper columns, not so good when it's spread across the full width of a page. Use one of the book typefaces instead. I'm a fan of Century Schoolbook as my go-to serif typeface but there are many others.
Another thing... Please stop underlining, people. This is definitely a holdover from the typewriter era where there were few ways to highlight text other than to back up the carriage and lay down a string of underscores. I have a couple of issues with underlining. The first problem is that it wipes out those lovely descenders of whatever typeface you're using and this interferes with readability. The second problem is that if someone is reading your work electronically, they will invariably feel compelled to click on the underlined word or phrase, assuming it's some sort of hyperlink. Don't waste your reader's time. Use italics instead, bold if you absolutely must.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)along with pitbulls, Olive Garden, breastfeeding, etc.
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eta: I must have fallen asleep in typing class in 1971, because I've always used one space after periods before another sentence and no one has ever corrected me *gasp*