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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTime to squelch the false rumors about Dorner and drones.
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/news/2013/02/11/12506/lapd-manhunt-rumor-control-drones-sightings-and-wh/Rumor: The Border Patrol/Customs is using drones to hunt Christopher Dorner
Source: U.K. tabloid the Daily Express
Truth: Not true. U.S. Customs and Border Protections Ralph DeSio says that, while hes quoted in the Express piece that claims drones are being used, their drones are not participating in the search. Reports that U.S. Customs and Border Protections unmanned aircraft systems are being used are incorrect. CBP UAS [Unmatted Aerial Systems] are not flying in support of the search.
Rumor: The LAPD or another agency is using drones to track Christopher Dorner.
Truth: Not true. In a Monday press conference, the LAPD said that theyre not using drones in the search for Dorner and that they dont know of any other agencies using drones in the search.
(More rumor control: The Express article says that Dorner would be the first target on American soil, but a drone has previously been used in the U.S. to find individuals North Dakota cow thieves. True story!)
Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz said at a Thursday morning news conference that police were using all tools at their disposal, but did not specify whether that included drones. The Department of Homeland Security is helping local agencies obtain drones, but it appears that they arent being used in this case.
Drones, which are unmanned aircraft that can be accurately controlled from a remote location, have been used with weapons by the U.S. government to fight terrorism overseas. The Obama administrations heavy use of drones has resulted in controversy, particularly after the recent revelation of a memo offering a legal defense for using drones to target U.S. citizens overseas. The drones being used on U.S. soil would likely be unarmed spy drones, used for tracking and surveillance rather than any sort of attack.
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If people have FACTS to support their claims that we are all in grave danger because of armed drones being used against Dorner and by extension all Americans on US soil, please do provide YOUR PROOF. Otherwise, shut the hell up with the melodrama. I'm sick of it.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)... damage control for the outrage over the drone program
Smilo
(1,944 posts)....there they were thinking America would once again swallow the propaganda and say "oh okay - we will just lie down and let you do whatever".
Cha
(297,898 posts)kestral.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)An 'eye in the sky' drone? Or a killer drone?
Also, what is the difference between a killer drone and a cruise missile?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)claiming for days that Obama has enthusiastically endorsed using armed attack drones against Americans on US soil. It's all false.
Read the article I linked to. Border patrol uses surveillance drones. But THOSE aren't being used in the hunt for Dorner either.
READ the article. LOOK at the pictures. A military drone is a pilotless airplane. A missile is a rocket.
BTW, Google is your friend for definitions of stuff.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...why the current excitement over killer drones when cruise missiles have been around for awhile doing the same thing (killing people from a distance).
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)hired trolls to post endlessly about, is my guess.
longship
(40,416 posts)Tell that to the Mars Science Laboratory people who designed and landed the Curiosity Rover on another planet with an autonomous "drone".
Ethical drone technology at its best and most inspirational.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)and he loved working on developing them. He had flown reconnaissance in Vietnam and so he really understood how much of a SAFETY IMPROVEMENT for military members the drone technology was.
I think he would consider armed attack drones to be cowardly and maybe even appalling. He actually hated war, thought it was stupid and due to incompetent diplomats letting things get out of hand.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Don't know why anyone would have a problem with them, unarmed or packing hellfire missiles! I trust the authorities to do the right thing. Always.
I, for one, welcome our drone overlords. (said with a whisper of sarcasm)
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)if they are doing the work of helicopters in low visibility bad weather situations, what is wrong with that? nobody thinks twice about helicopters with infrared cameras.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)they have probable cause. I'm pretty sure they have probable cause in the Dorner case, lol.
Helicopters started out as military only, I think. Now cops have them and nobody gives a hoot. And amazingly enough, all these years later, the cops still aren't shooting people from on high.
The hysterical ranting about this really pisses me off. Especially when they use it as one more reason to Obama bash.