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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:58 AM Feb 2013

A yard sign (Obama for prez) led to a 400k court fight....

By Justin Jouvenal, Published: February 9

The feud that consumed Fairfax County’s Olde Belhaven would span four years and cost the community as much as $400,000, and it was ignited by one of the smallest of sparks: an Obama for President sign.

The modest placard Sam and Maria Farran planted in their yard during the 2008 election put them on a collision course with the neighborhood homeowners association. It was four inches taller than the association’s covenants allowed.

“Need I say more! This would lead to chaos,” a neighbor fretted in an e-mail about the precedent that would be set if the sign wasn’t removed. “Our property values would be put at risk.”

Such HOA disputes are as suburban as cul-de-sacs and two-car garages, but few metastasize into legal battles that spend years in the courts, break legal ground and bankrupt the HOA.

Most damaging of all, though, was a move probably unprecedented in area neighborhood feuds: The common area that is the literal and metaphoric heart of Olde Belhaven was put up for sale last year to settle its debts. It appeared that “the square,” as some called the neighborhood, would no longer have a square.

“It destroyed our community,” Maria Farran said.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fairfax-homeowners-group-humbled-by-court-battle-with-residents/2013/02/09/d46f9bec-6652-11e2-93e1-475791032daf_story.html

Stupid HOA.

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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
3. Read the story- The HOA was wrong
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:12 AM
Feb 2013

They didn't have the right to issue fines and also retaliated. Stupid HOA.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
10. I did. This couple sounds like they just didn't feel like living up to THEIR CONTRACT.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:30 PM
Feb 2013

I didn't make it silly or overbearing; but I don't live in an HOA development FOR THAT VERY REASON.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
5. Why side with the HOA on this?
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:15 AM
Feb 2013

I could understand if this sign was four FEET oversize, however a mere four INCHES?

The real reason isn't behind the size of the lawn sign anyhow....it wasn't the 'correct' sign.

fmaxwell

(1 post)
14. Size?
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:27 AM
Feb 2013
I could understand if this sign was four FEET oversize, however a mere four INCHES?


Four inches is massive to the kind of man who would get off on the power of being HOA President for a suburban townhouse development.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
2. One of many reasons I would never live in a place that has an HOA
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:04 AM
Feb 2013

The classic line that epitomizes their attitude “Our property values would be put at risk.”
My attitude is "Good, that keeps my taxes lower"

People that buy houses as an investment instead of a home annoy me greatly.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
7. You would be OK with losing tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:59 PM
Feb 2013

On a house?

I disagree with the HOA. I think they're nosy busy bodies in general. I also wouldn't want to live in an area with an HOA. That's a separate issue. Another thing to consider is that if all home values drop, taxes don't usually change. Taxes are often a piece of the pie in relation to all other pieces.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. The dicatorship board wasn't amused.....
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:46 PM
Feb 2013

The Farrans were angry. They acknowledged that the sign broke the rules but said it seemed like an assault on free speech to go after a minor violation during the height of an election. Their response: cutting the placard in half. They planted “OBA” and “MA” signs in their front yard.

The prank did not amuse board members. And they decided to act.

I'm just guessing here but a NO OBA MA would have been okay.

intheflow

(28,463 posts)
8. The library I work at rents out our meeting room to a number of HOAs every month.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:21 PM
Feb 2013

Really the most unlikeable people at the library, by far. Full of themselves and their big-fish/little-pond power trips.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
12. LOL...the HOA is responsible for lowering their property value
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:46 PM
Feb 2013

Who would want to live with such anal neighbors?

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
13. The other homeowners
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:55 PM
Feb 2013

should sue the HOA, which was certainly not acting in their best interests.

To spend that much money (!?) fighting the "bad" homeowners--OMG absurd.

But this is Murka, where people have nothing better to do.

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