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Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:59 AM Feb 2013

Unidentified but real I think.

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Astronauts, countless pilots, former presidents, a former governor (AZ), and numerous citizens have witnessed UFOs since the late 1940s. It doesn't require a tinfoil hat to believe UFOs have appeared over most of the earth.

Have you ever seen the History Channel presentation of I Know What I Saw? The most convincing portion of the program featured a LtCol Deputy Base Cmdr and Security Police Sqdn at Bentwaters RAF in the early 1980s. Not only was the craft observed by these personnel, but at least one of them touched the craft on the ground, felt its' heat, walked around it, and made notations of its' strange symbols. They all observed it approach, make 90 deg turns in the air, land before them, and suddenly lift off the ground and disappear silently at great speed soundlessly.

Regardless of who testifies to what they saw at one time, people still tend to remain skeptical of the origins of these craft. Astronaut Gordon Cooper, former Presidents Carter and Reagan, and numerous professional pilots (military and civilian) are among the various witnesses.

But what about you? Are you prone to believe:


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UFOs have an extraterrestial non-earth origin.
1 (100%)
UFOs have earthly origins (possibly our own advanced tech)
0 (0%)
UFOs are of subterranean non-earth origin.
0 (0%)
Some other explanation or origin.
0 (0%)
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Unidentified but real I think. (Original Post) Jack Sprat Feb 2013 OP
Other: inter-dimensional. Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #1
Other - Folded space and multiple dimensions. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #2
This may be picking nits. MrSlayer Feb 2013 #3
The overwhelming majority Jack Sprat Feb 2013 #5
No doubt. MrSlayer Feb 2013 #10
Some combination of optical illusion, atmospheric refraction... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #4
Also the distances involved (many light years) seem to preclude visitation. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #6
We look at the universe through a lens we created The Straight Story Feb 2013 #7
i have definitely seen craft i cannot identify fizzgig Feb 2013 #8
I grew up around 2naSalit Feb 2013 #9
Kick for UFOs in GD... SidDithers Feb 2013 #11
Did the CT forum overflow again? FSogol Feb 2013 #12
Evidently. Iggo Feb 2013 #14
I believe that sometimes there are flying objects that people can't identify. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2013 #13
Swamp gas slackmaster Feb 2013 #15
This does not meet the SOP for GD please repost in CS Autumn Feb 2013 #16

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
1. Other: inter-dimensional.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:06 AM
Feb 2013

Yep, ready for flames here.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. Other - Folded space and multiple dimensions. n/t
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:07 AM
Feb 2013
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
3. This may be picking nits.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:11 AM
Feb 2013

But the term UFO by definition means the object that has been seen is unidentified. Therefore I simply cannot make a blanket statement about UFOs because I don't believe every unidentified object has an extra terrestrial origin. However, I can say that I certainly believe there is life out there in the universe other than us. In an infinite universe it's laughable to think we are the only planet containing (barely) intelligent life.

Have we been visited? I don't know. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. I myself have never seen any evidence that we have but a very good friend of mine insists that he witnessed an event as a child and is a true believer. I don't have any reason to believe he's lying but my own skepticism of everything leaves me unconvinced.

Until I personally see something like that I'll remain skeptical of Earth visits but I am nearly 100% sure there is alien life out there.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
5. The overwhelming majority
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:25 AM
Feb 2013

including me, will remain skeptical because we haven't seen anything ourselves. Yet, I know that the witnesses do see something and often it is very large. When they see a craft that sometimes moves slowly overhead and appears over a mile in breadth, I believe they are seeing something very real. When pilots see craft moving in all directions and larger than 3 aircraft carriers without needing binoculars, I believe they are seeing something very real and tangible.

But the ones, who indicate this craft might move between different dimensions, pose an excellent possibility. It could be a craft skipping in and out of our dimension. Still, even with that possibility, I believe it is something beyond our intelligence and technology.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
10. No doubt.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:23 AM
Feb 2013

You're not doing interstellar/interdementional travel with solid rocket boosters and the like.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
4. Some combination of optical illusion, atmospheric refraction...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:12 AM
Feb 2013

and sightings of classified/experimental aircraft.

I don't think that there've been extraterrestrial visitors; it strains credulity to imagine that we've been visited by however many extraterrestrial or extradimensional beings (all the ones reported add up to a lot); and there's never been any contact (apart from the claims of people who are obviously mentally ill).

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
6. Also the distances involved (many light years) seem to preclude visitation.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:32 AM
Feb 2013

It's not possible to travel at anything close to the speed of light either, ask A. Einstein.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
7. We look at the universe through a lens we created
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:33 AM
Feb 2013

things outside that lens don't seem possible at times.

Way back in the day people saw gods in the sky, thought the sun moved around the earth, etc and so on.

The more we have learned the more we realize how little we knew (and know).

We think that alien species are like us and only have our limited understanding/knowledge so therefore it would be unlikely if not impossible for them to travel here.

I am not so arrogant to believe that we are the most advanced and intelligent species in the universe. Just look at our world - if we got rid of all the stupid politics and focused our resources on science instead of wars, etc, we would have millions and millions more scientists working and unlocking more things.

Maybe another society has done so on another planet and see us as a bunch of noobs who think we know all there is to know about the universe.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
8. i have definitely seen craft i cannot identify
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:48 AM
Feb 2013

but there are four air force bases within a 150 mile radius, so i can't immediately say aliens. my husband thinks they're visitors, i am open to the possibility. i have no doubt we aren't the only ones out there, i just don't know that they've shown up.

then again...

2naSalit

(86,906 posts)
9. I grew up around
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:04 AM
Feb 2013

military aircraft in many parts of the country due to what my dad did in the military and I have, over several decades, seen things that I know weren't from anything known to have been constructed on this planet. And I have seen, in the past year, several types of things that travel above the planet that have capabilities like nothing we have developed yet on this planet. there are others out there, I have not met any of them but there's something else out there. And I even saw Sputnik through a telescope when it made it's famous voyage.

Not a matter of believing, if you know what you saw.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
11. Kick for UFOs in GD...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:29 PM
Feb 2013

Woo woo!!

Sid

FSogol

(45,580 posts)
12. Did the CT forum overflow again?
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:30 PM
Feb 2013

Iggo

(47,587 posts)
14. Evidently.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:33 PM
Feb 2013

Iggo

(47,587 posts)
13. I believe that sometimes there are flying objects that people can't identify. (n/t)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:33 PM
Feb 2013
 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
15. Swamp gas
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:34 PM
Feb 2013

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
16. This does not meet the SOP for GD please repost in CS
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:56 PM
Feb 2013

Thank you

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