Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn Case You Missed This... 'Judge: Army GI (Manning) In WikiLeaks Illegally Punished' - AP
Judge: Army GI in WikiLeaks illegally punishedBy DAVID DISHNEAU AP
Jan. 8 6:16 PM EST
Army Col. Denise Lind ruled during a pretrial hearing that authorities went too far in their strict confinement of Pfc. Bradley Manning for nine months in a Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va., in 2010 and 2011. Manning was confined to a windowless cell 23 hours a day, sometimes with no clothing. Brig officials said it was to keep him from hurting himself or others.
Lind said Manning's confinement was "more rigorous than necessary." She added that the conditions "became excessive in relation to legitimate government interests."
Lind said Manning's confinement was "more rigorous than necessary." She added that the conditions "became excessive in relation to legitimate government interests."
And THIS...
Lind rejected a defense contention that brig commanders were influenced by higher-ranking Marine Corps officials at Quantico or the Pentagon.
More: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/gis-hearing-wikileaks-case-focuses-motive
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
11 replies, 1098 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (21)
ReplyReply to this post
11 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
In Case You Missed This... 'Judge: Army GI (Manning) In WikiLeaks Illegally Punished' - AP (Original Post)
WillyT
Jan 2013
OP
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)1. Thank you, I had. n/t
WillyT
(72,631 posts)3. You Are Quite Welcome !!!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)2. More Here:
Theres much to say about this ruling and this is only the conclusion. There were tidbits about Mannings mental health issues while confined at a facility in Kuwait that deserve a bit of attention, as they clearly factored in the judges belief that that Quantico staff handled Manning properly and with good justification for the other one hundred or so days that he was confined at Quantico.
Manning faces the possibility of a life sentence for aiding the enemy. The defense had hoped to get much more out of this decision than a meager 112 days. They had asked for 10-to-1 credit. They had presented what looked like reasonable evidence in emails that higher-ranking commanders were communicating with commanding officers at Quantico about how to handle Manning in the facility. But the judge did not think that there was any culture in the military that would have led to Manning being punished.
More significantly, there is no ruling for the public to read today. The judge read a ruling for over one hour and a half and the entire press pool scrambled to keep up with what she was reading. There were no breaks. She read the entire ruling, which was probably at least fifty pages if not more.
It was a completely flagrant abuse of secrecy powers, especially when you consider the fact that the ruling was pretty favorable to the government in the sense that the ruling did not award Manning more sentencing credit.
The reading of the ruling today was a prime example of why a challenge against secrecy in the court martial proceedings brought by the Center for Constitutional Rights to grant the press and the public access to court filings, such as government motions, court orders and transcripts of proceedings is critical.
Manning faces the possibility of a life sentence for aiding the enemy. The defense had hoped to get much more out of this decision than a meager 112 days. They had asked for 10-to-1 credit. They had presented what looked like reasonable evidence in emails that higher-ranking commanders were communicating with commanding officers at Quantico about how to handle Manning in the facility. But the judge did not think that there was any culture in the military that would have led to Manning being punished.
More significantly, there is no ruling for the public to read today. The judge read a ruling for over one hour and a half and the entire press pool scrambled to keep up with what she was reading. There were no breaks. She read the entire ruling, which was probably at least fifty pages if not more.
It was a completely flagrant abuse of secrecy powers, especially when you consider the fact that the ruling was pretty favorable to the government in the sense that the ruling did not award Manning more sentencing credit.
The reading of the ruling today was a prime example of why a challenge against secrecy in the court martial proceedings brought by the Center for Constitutional Rights to grant the press and the public access to court filings, such as government motions, court orders and transcripts of proceedings is critical.
Much More: http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/01/08/judge-bradley-manning-punished-unlawfully-but-not-enough-to-warrant-more-than-weak-relief/
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)5. WOW!! She read 50 pages with no breaks!?!??! Mannings case has huge issues
WillyT
(72,631 posts)10. You Seemed To Skip Over These Parts...
More significantly, there is no ruling for the PUBLIC to read today. The judge read a ruling for over one hour and a half and the entire press pool scrambled to keep up with what she was reading.
And...
The reading of the ruling today was a prime example of why a challenge against secrecy in the court martial proceedings brought by the Center for Constitutional Rights to grant the press and the public access to court filings, such as government motions, court orders and transcripts of proceedings is critical.
malaise
(268,967 posts)4. This is very important
Torture is way too fashionable these days
WillyT
(72,631 posts)7. Evening Kick !!!
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)8. K & R. nt
WillyT
(72,631 posts)9. LOL !!! - LOVE Your Sig Line !!!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)11. Part of the defense argument.
Good.