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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:07 AM Jan 2013

Noah Pozner's mom (Sandy Hook) was interviewed after Noah was murdered - here ya go....

Last edited Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:52 AM - Edit history (1)



I know this is more than the 4 paragraph limit.
Hope you will understand...

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Wrestling With Details of Noah Pozner's Killing
By Naomi Zeveloff


Nine days after her son, Noah, was killed in the Newtown schools shootings, I interviewed Veronique Pozner and other members of the family about their grieving process. The family had just finished observing the official Jewish mourning period.
I spent over an hour with Veronique; she talked me through her experience on December 14 and the days that followed. Her story was filled with moving and harrowing details: her dream of wandering an abandoned building calling out for Noah, her meeting with President Obama at a vigil at the local high school and her decision to get a tattoo of angel wings and Noah’s name the day after his death. The details that stuck with me the most — and the details which I felt most conflicted about putting in print — were Veronique’s descriptions of the damage to her son’s body. He was shot 11 times; she told me that his jaw and his left hand were mostly gone.
There were certain things Veronique wanted for Noah’s funeral. She felt that his body had suffered too many indignities already; she was adamant that he not be autopsied. She wanted him to be buried with a Jewish prayer shawl and with a clear stone with a white angel inside — an “angel stone” — in each of his hands. Veronique was only able to put the stone in his right hand because the left was “not altogether there,” she told me, crying for the first time in our interview. She asked the funeral director to put the other one in the left hand spot. “I made him promise and he did.”
Veronique told me that Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy visited her in the funeral home, and she brought him to see Noah’s open casket. I asked her why it was important for her and for the governor to see Noah’s body. “I needed it to have a face for him,” she said. “If there is ever a piece of legislation that comes across his desk, I needed it to be real for him.”
Veronique continued on in this vein for a few minutes. But I still felt that I didn’t understand why she, asa mother, chose to see Noah’s body, so I asked her again: Why, for her? “I owed it to him as his mother, the good, the bad, the ugly,” she said. “It is not up to me to say I am only going to look at you and deal with you when you are alive, that I am going to block out the reality of what you look like when you are dead. And as a little boy, you have to go in the ground. If I am going to shut my eyes to that I am not his mother. I had to bear it. I had to do it.” Several family members also chose to view Noah’s body.
Then, unprompted by me, Veronique described what she saw: “We all saw how beautiful he was. He had thick, shiny hair, beautiful long eyelashes that rested on his cheeks. He looked like he was sleeping. But the reality of it was under the cloth he had covering his mouth there was no mouth left. His jaw was blown away. I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized. And that is what haunts me at night.”


Read more: http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thinking/168707/wrestling-with-details-of-noah-pozners-killing/#ixzz2H4vMbnnk



edit to add - Noah's mom wants this story to get out.... please share.
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Noah Pozner's mom (Sandy Hook) was interviewed after Noah was murdered - here ya go.... (Original Post) jillan Jan 2013 OP
The sickest thing is that RW nuts would have no problem UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #1
That is why this story needs to be shared with everyone you know. jillan Jan 2013 #2
So why are you bringing it up? sarisataka Jan 2013 #6
His mother brought it up. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #7
And this part: jillan Jan 2013 #17
Yeah, that, and the guns that fire 30 rounds without reloading. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #22
my heart is breaking again FightForMichigan Jan 2013 #3
Agreed. jillan Jan 2013 #4
So is mine. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #15
What a beautiful child. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #5
This mom showed the courage of Emmitt Till's mother fortyfeetunder Jan 2013 #8
The excerpt was too much...I can't read any more. Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #9
Especially since you and I know that "open caskets" are not typical for our people. Bonobo Jan 2013 #21
And If This Doesn't Foment New Gun Laws..... triplepoint Jan 2013 #10
I see those sweet faces and I just cry. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #16
Kick. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #11
Brave Mom Beautiful Child HangOnKids Jan 2013 #12
God rest this precious child.. ReRe Jan 2013 #13
He was such a beautiful Little child. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #14
Yeah but, you know, there are those precious gun rights that we have to protect. Lex Jan 2013 #18
Kicking for Noah and everyone that was brutally murdered by a gun. We need to keep them in our jillan Jan 2013 #19
Kick Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #20
Thanks \0/ jillan Jan 2013 #23
This is heartbreaking. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #24

jillan

(39,451 posts)
2. That is why this story needs to be shared with everyone you know.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:39 AM
Jan 2013

Let people look at that face and think of him with holes throughout his body...
with his left hand blown to pieces.

Second amendment rights took away this little boy's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

sarisataka

(18,437 posts)
6. So why are you bringing it up?
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:48 AM
Jan 2013

It should be told to everyone, especially the age demographic where violence is more common. People get the wrong ideas about violence, life and death. Anger may last a moment, death is forever. Bringing that point home is what may help change the cultural norms that glorify violence and put it forth as a solution to problems.

I grieve with this poor mother and pray that she may find peace. I am in awe of her strength and love of her child. That too is something many can learn from.

It is not the killers that should be household names, but the victims.
Noah Pozner

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
7. His mother brought it up.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:56 AM
Jan 2013
I asked her why it was important for her and for the governor to see Noah’s body. “I needed it to have a face for him,” she said. “If there is ever a piece of legislation that comes across his desk, I needed it to be real for him.”

jillan

(39,451 posts)
17. And this part:
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:37 PM
Jan 2013
I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. Yeah, that, and the guns that fire 30 rounds without reloading.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jan 2013

Which need to be outlawed and TAKEN THE FUCK AWAY.

ALL OF THEM.

fortyfeetunder

(8,894 posts)
8. This mom showed the courage of Emmitt Till's mother
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:44 AM
Jan 2013

This is the first time I had heard of anyone looking at their child's remains and and I applaud her for putting truth to this situation.

This excerpt brought it home for me this late evening:

"I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized. And that is what haunts me at night.”

This reminds me of Emmitt Till's mother showing the mangled remains of her son at a viewing many years ago. This was a courageous act by Noah's mother.

Rest in peace, little Noah. Peace and healing to his family.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
21. Especially since you and I know that "open caskets" are not typical for our people.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:08 PM
Jan 2013

It must have been brutal. How fucking brave of her. It kills me to think about.

For Catholics and for the Japanese where I live, they are used to open caskets... so maybe it would be less intimidating.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
10. And If This Doesn't Foment New Gun Laws.....
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:06 AM
Jan 2013

nothing will...

And then there's the condition of the bodies of the other Sandy Hook Elementary School Massacre victims...
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AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
16. I see those sweet faces and I just cry.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jan 2013

There is one picture I have seen of one child where he is looking wistfully up at the sky.

Breaks my heart.

I don't know about the existence of angels, but their pictures make me want to believe.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
13. God rest this precious child..
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:32 AM
Jan 2013

... and continue to hold Mamma Veronique close and give her strength as she goes on in life. Amen.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. He was such a beautiful Little child.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:05 AM
Jan 2013

They all were. What a tragic waste of young life. I am in tears for these young ones.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
19. Kicking for Noah and everyone that was brutally murdered by a gun. We need to keep them in our
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

hearts & never let them go.


After the shooting in Tucson - I saved a pic of Darwin Stoddard.
He died to protect his wife during that massacre.

We cannot let these people be forgotten.

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