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chelsea0011

(10,115 posts) Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:06 PM Dec 2012

So, why did Harry Reid get pushed aside?

Why did Biden have to step in?

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So, why did Harry Reid get pushed aside? (Original Post) chelsea0011 Dec 2012 OP

I think there is a lot of personal rancor that has built up over the Skidmore Dec 2012 #1

It could be because his bottom line has been to raise taxes above the $250,000 level bigtree Dec 2012 #2

not clear at this point. sometimes in negotiation you just change the scenery to get things unstuck unblock Dec 2012 #3

Because he's a corporatist stooge Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #4

McTurttle won't Wellstone ruled Dec 2012 #5

Because Biden is a better spokesman to (and probably also for) the American public? gkhouston Dec 2012 #6

good cop, bad cop scheming daemons Dec 2012 #7

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)

1. I think there is a lot of personal rancor that has built up over the

Reply to chelsea0011 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:08 PM

Dec 2012

course of this past 2-3 years. I think some of these people just have problems working with one another. Period. I would kind of like to see a change in the leadership this next round on both sides.

bigtree

(86,040 posts)

2. It could be because his bottom line has been to raise taxes above the $250,000 level

Reply to chelsea0011 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:08 PM

Dec 2012

and this 'deal' requires him to come off of that.

unblock

(52,570 posts)

3. not clear at this point. sometimes in negotiation you just change the scenery to get things unstuck

Reply to chelsea0011 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:11 PM

Dec 2012

it's possible that obama didn't like the positions reid insisted on.
it's possible that republicans basically said i'll agree to a deal just as long as we don't have to shake hands with reid.
it's possible that reid threw up his hands and said i give up, there's no deal to be had here.

and it's possible that obama said, hey, let's just shuffle the cards a bit here and see if that changes the conversation any.

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)

4. Because he's a corporatist stooge

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Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:12 PM

Dec 2012

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

5. McTurttle won't

Reply to chelsea0011 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:14 PM

Dec 2012

negotiate with a African-American. Our President Obama has been treated like Sh*t by this POS. Must really be rough to live a racist hate filled life like McTurttle. And his spouse is Asian-American,who would have thought.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)

6. Because Biden is a better spokesman to (and probably also for) the American public?

Reply to chelsea0011 (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:18 PM

Dec 2012

If we go over the cliff (as seems likely), Biden is a far better communicator on television than Reid. Joe's a good pick for popularizing the necessity of rejecting Republican demands.

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)

7. good cop, bad cop

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Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:19 PM

Dec 2012

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