"Rubin and his allies control the Democratic Party with their money"

[hfojvt]

"Rubin and his allies control the Democratic Party with their money at the moment. Their financial power will not be easily overcome. However, it is important that people understand that the Rubin-Clinton team is every bit as much about redistributing money from the rest of us to the very rich as the Republicans."

From Dean Baker http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/12/26-0

"Their financial power will not be easily overcome."

There seem to be those here who suggest that those of us from the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" are not loyal Democrats because we would attack the perfidity of the Rubin wing of the Democratic Party.

Let me once again link to, listen to and quote Ted Kennedy

"I am asking you to renew the commitment of the Democratic Party to economic justice"

"The serious issue before us tonight, is the cause for which the Democratic Party has stood in its finest hours ... our cause has been, since the days of Thomas Jefferson, the cause of the common man, and the common woman. Our cimmitment has been, since the days of Andrew Jackson, to all those he called "the humble members of society" - the farmers, mechanics and laborers. On this foundation we have defined our values, refined our policies and refreshed our faith."

A deal that heavily favors the top 20% over the bottom 40% is NOT a deal worthy of that heritage.

The Rubin wing is happy to accept and fight for such a deal, but I am not. Nor am I willing to just roll over and accept their domination of the Democratic Party. No, I will stand with the bottom 75%, the common man and the commom woman and hope that they will join together to take our party back.

[Jackpine Radical]

1. EmoProg, Loony Liberal, didn't get your pony--

Yup. You jumped in the liquefied cowshit puddle with both feet & no boots this time.

Well, I'm in here with ya.

Let's hit the bar after the shit stops flying & we have a chance to clean up.

[hfojvt]

2. not much excrement flying

so far the KNR saloon seems like a lonely, quiet place.

[liberal_at_heart]

3. k&r

We need to restore economic justice, and we cannot do that with bought politicians.

[woo me with science]

4. K&R We are bought and sold,

but that can be changed...

[hfojvt]

6. kinda discouraging though

somehow I thought there would be more than 9 DUers interested in changing it.

[Wilms]

5. ^

[banned from Kos]

7. Jerry Rubin?

Who is this Gawd-like Democratic Rasputin?

[annabanana]

9. heh . . . . n/t

[hfojvt]

12. former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin

"and his allies"

powerful, but no more Gawd-like than the boogey men of the right - the Koch Brothers, the Scaifes, etc.

Point is that the rich have bought both parties and so neither party serves "the common man and common woman" although both like to pretend they do.

[annabanana]

8. k&r

Here too.

Why must it always wait for the pitchforks & torches?

sigh

[banned from Kos]

10. uhhhhh - due process?

a good lib thing!

[annabanana]

11. just lamenting

the seemingly endless slog. . .

[arthritisR_US]

13. If this is true, the last thing your country

needs is a Hilory presidency

[TheKentuckian]

14. To deny this takes either child like naivete or TeaPubliKlan level dishonesty

They are just right wingers that can be "made to do it" on some social issues once it is beyond clear the nation at large are ahead of them.

[hfojvt]

15. I don't think it is that obvious

After all, the propaganda is pretty strong and the Kabuki theater pretty compelling, and many voters care deeply about social issues - at least in theory.

I say, in theory, because I ran for treasurer and got soundly thumped. Of course, I ran a fairly lackluster campaign, but our Sherriff candidate ran an awesome campaign and he got thumped about as badly as I did. Yet there was no "social issue" reason to vote against those two Democrats. Heck, there was not an economic issue reason to do so either. Both of us would have just been professionals doing a job. But Republicans voted against us anyway.

Which says to me that social issues are not as important as I thought.

[grahamhgreen]

17. Kick

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

18. K & Mofo R!!

[hfojvt]

19. thanks

I am gonna kick it myself, just to see how many (or few) views I have.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

20. Hard to see why such a post would not be on the greatest list. But, sometimes it's just a matter of

timing--who's on and what other topics are hot on DU at any given time.

[Dragonfli]

21. kicked and highly recommended.

Fuck Rubin and his associate Summers and the Trojan donkey they rode in on (or just in as it was a hollow affectation to begin with).

[hfojvt]

22. thanks for the kick

although as I found out, with an ancient thread like this, a kick does NOT bring it back to the front page. It's already archived.

But damn I just love that Kennedy speech.