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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:08 AM Dec 2012

Poll: Are all illegal drug users responsible for drug gang violence?

More than a few posts over the past week hold non-criminal gun owners responsible for
enabling criminal use of guns.

I was reminded of this by my memories of a certain Canadian ex-DUer that would
occasionally remind us that the Canadian wholesale cannabis business is dominated
by violent biker gangs, so those who chose 'hydro' instead of Mexican for ethical reasons
(as opposed to taste) were only fooling themselves.
Said ex-DUer was/is also virulently antigun.

(Note: this does NOT include those who use it for medical reasons and get their supplies
from legal dispensaries)


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Yes- but not if they grow their own cannabis, and strictly limit themselves to the same.
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Poll: Are all illegal drug users responsible for drug gang violence? (Original Post) friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 OP
Yes, just as you are responsible for child labor BainsBane Dec 2012 #1
No. Prohibition is responsible for the gangs. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #2
+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2012 #6
No, the drug war is. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #3
If ALL drug users stopped using, would drug-trafficking violence marybourg Dec 2012 #4
If all people stopped breathing, all genocide would end. Kurska Dec 2012 #18
If ALL countries ended drug prohibition, would drug trafficking violence end? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #21
Bullshit. cheapdate Dec 2012 #5
Are you kidding? letemrot Dec 2012 #9
Wow, you must not have been reading much. n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #11
How quickly they forget-here you go: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #12
I stand corrected. I feel stupid, and contagious. cheapdate Dec 2012 #13
...Here we are now, entertain us!... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #17
Reach much? 99Forever Dec 2012 #7
About as much as the anti-gun people are.. letemrot Dec 2012 #10
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #8
not 100%, but culpability is shared. closeupready Dec 2012 #14
Most RIDICULOUS Post of the year. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #15
No, but they contribute to acceptance of the illicit drug market HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #16
The only thing that does that is prohibition. n/t Kurska Dec 2012 #19
By definition, of course. That's what makes the market illicit. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #20

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
1. Yes, just as you are responsible for child labor
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:11 AM
Dec 2012

If you purchase goods made with it. That goes for any trafficked drug, regardless of type.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
2. No. Prohibition is responsible for the gangs.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:13 AM
Dec 2012

And by extension the violence is as well.

End prohibition and the gangs disappear.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
3. No, the drug war is.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:19 AM
Dec 2012

The drug war has created the black market that allows criminals and gangs to reap enormous, tax-free profits instead of legitimate, regulated businesses.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
4. If ALL drug users stopped using, would drug-trafficking violence
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:23 AM
Dec 2012

end? Of course it would, so the answer seems self-evident to me.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
18. If all people stopped breathing, all genocide would end.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:39 PM
Dec 2012

Fucking ridiculous, blame the drug war not the drugs.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
21. If ALL countries ended drug prohibition, would drug trafficking violence end?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:58 PM
Dec 2012

Well, yes, yes, it would.

When was the last time you saw Coors and Budweiser shooting it out?

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
5. Bullshit.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:27 AM
Dec 2012

Name one post that purports to "hold non-criminal gun owners responsible for enabling criminal use of guns".

Arguing for regulations on the sale, possession, or use of firearms as a way to stem the onslaught of mass shootings is not at all the same thing as "hold(ing) non-criminal gun owners responsible for enabling criminal use of guns".

 

letemrot

(184 posts)
9. Are you kidding?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:42 AM
Dec 2012

All the "you have blood on your hands" threads..etc. there are quite a large number and have been all over GD since Friday.

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