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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:01 PM Dec 2012

Bernie Sanders: Mr. President, I am Disappointed

Mr. President, I am Disappointed

Remember when the White House said Social Security was “off the table” in the deficit talks because it has a $2.7 trillion surplus and hasn’t contributed to deficits? Remember when President Obama pledged not to cut benefits for retirees, widows and orphans? The White House has now agreed to adopt a stingier formula for cost-of-living increases which would cut benefits. In a Senate floor speech, Bernie said the White House had offered repeated assurances that would not happen “and that Social Security should be off the table in terms of deficit reduction. I heard that many, many times. So I wonder how Social Security suddenly has gotten back on the table, including a chained CPI with devastating cuts to seniors and disabled vets,” Sanders said. “Mr. President, I am disappointed.”

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Bernie Sanders: Mr. President, I am Disappointed (Original Post) ProSense Dec 2012 OP
Agreed Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #1
Signed. Thanks! jillan Dec 2012 #2
Uh oh durablend Dec 2012 #3
K&R and signed! MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #4
K&R...signed as well. bullwinkle428 Dec 2012 #5
I signed and also watoos Dec 2012 #6
The president has angered ProSense. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #7
Yeah. Did not think tblue Dec 2012 #40
Hell has frozen over... Larry Ogg Dec 2012 #59
Maybe it's like Bart Ehrman, who peered so deeply at the scriptures UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #61
How long can you be screwed before you realize your being screwed... Larry Ogg Dec 2012 #67
shit... the Mayans were right! foo_bar Dec 2012 #68
Oh my... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #81
K&R Signed forestpath Dec 2012 #8
He never liked Obama Doctor_J Dec 2012 #9
"He's not a true Democrat." WinkyDink Dec 2012 #10
"Well he's a socialist, after all" yodermon Dec 2012 #17
in other words, what used to be a Democrat. yurbud Dec 2012 #44
Laguardia was more democratic than most of those "Democrats"... leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #57
Richard Nixon was considerably to the left of Third Way Democrats. merrily Dec 2012 #73
Yes but... leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #88
Teddy Roosevelt was a commie compared to most of today's Democrats in Congress yurbud Dec 2012 #89
He is more of a Dem than a lot of 'em tblue Dec 2012 #41
in other words, Democrats have to use the exact opposite methods the Republicans do yurbud Dec 2012 #45
no heaven05 Dec 2012 #11
When there is it will be too late. cui bono Dec 2012 #53
and heaven05 Dec 2012 #70
And when they start back up in the new year.... daleanime Dec 2012 #78
keep heaven05 Dec 2012 #79
I notice that my question went unanswered, daleanime Dec 2012 #84
your heaven05 Dec 2012 #86
So you agree with me that it will be... daleanime Dec 2012 #87
Signed smccarter Dec 2012 #12
K&R signed as well. nt LittleGirl Dec 2012 #13
How big a win does a Democratic president have to get before he stops agreeing with Republicans? yurbud Dec 2012 #14
Or maybe TPTB (or whatever) had a version of this plan ready to go no matter whothe election winner. nc4bo Dec 2012 #25
TPTB? definition? yurbud Dec 2012 #39
The Powers That Be. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #47
TPTB (The Powers That Be) is a very small minority of super rich psychopaths who... Larry Ogg Dec 2012 #60
You must mean how much $$$$! Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #30
we can't outbid the rich for one simple reason (besides that we don't have the money) yurbud Dec 2012 #92
So true! Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #93
Done. 15,405 signatures up to now. n/t Cleita Dec 2012 #15
K&R Raffi Ella Dec 2012 #16
Thanks, Bernie and thanks ProSense for the new petition link. freshwest Dec 2012 #18
Signed. Thanks for the post. santamargarita Dec 2012 #19
President Sanders has a pretty good ring to it. DiverDave Dec 2012 #20
Signed Pakid Dec 2012 #21
Kicked, Recc'd, signed. n/t NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #22
Done! JDPriestly Dec 2012 #23
Done np PoliticalBiker Dec 2012 #24
Gladly signed. n/t Duval Dec 2012 #26
The mayans were right hootinholler Dec 2012 #27
This is why the ONLY real issue is complete CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!!!!!! Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #28
WE LOVE YOU BERNIE!! SHOW THEM WHAT A 'TALKING FILIBUSTER' LOOKS LIKE. GIVE 'EM HELL. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #29
K&R & Signed 99Forever Dec 2012 #31
Signed.... lucca18 Dec 2012 #32
Signed and tweeted. Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #33
I Join Senator Sanders in expressing disappointment in accepting an extremely RW panacea indepat Dec 2012 #34
Signed and shared MissDeeds Dec 2012 #35
K&R Signed. Thank you so much for posting this. I just retired in Sept. at 65 and snappyturtle Dec 2012 #36
Signed and just sent it to a bunch plethoro Dec 2012 #37
I signed.....n/t Vadem Dec 2012 #38
Signed! N/t PasadenaTrudy Dec 2012 #42
Well, I'm outraged. Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #43
Signed sealed delivered. JEB Dec 2012 #46
Signed! SunSeeker Dec 2012 #48
Signed. K&R SaveOurDemocracy Dec 2012 #49
Thanks for posting...done and shared. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #50
Signed it and shared it. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #51
Signature 16183. hay rick Dec 2012 #52
Looking forward to listening to him tomorrow on Thom Hartmann's show. #16567 cui bono Dec 2012 #54
Well Lawrence O'Donnell said last night that the Republicans would not accept their own deal Maraya1969 Dec 2012 #55
Signed! nt DearHeart Dec 2012 #56
Got my electronicJohn Hancock... Fedaykin Dec 2012 #58
Wow, prosense even thinks this is bad! Shocked! Logical Dec 2012 #62
So happy to sign this. Thanks! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #63
Wonder what Bernie's saying today? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #64
I am confused will SS be taken off now that Plan B got voted down? Liberalynn Dec 2012 #65
There was no need to involve Social Security. jsr Dec 2012 #66
Never thought I would be K&R'ing a ProSense post. NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #69
But Bernie Sanders isn't even a Democrat. dawg Dec 2012 #71
Nice! NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #72
Come to the socialist dark side. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #74
Signed because I love Sanders, not because I have any faith in theeffectiveness of petitions. merrily Dec 2012 #75
Way past time JEB Dec 2012 #76
ProSense, I sometimes feel that Bernie Sanders is the only person saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #77
K&R CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #80
Mr. President, I am Disappointed Denise21 Dec 2012 #82
ouch! examples like yours show why "bipartisanship" isn't kindness, it's corruption and weakness yurbud Dec 2012 #91
18829 here... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #83
K&R closeupready Dec 2012 #85
The last representative of the people left in DC. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #90
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. I signed and also
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:45 PM
Dec 2012

sent an e-mail off to the White House, to my Senator. Couldn't get through by phone, maybe that's a good sign.

Larry Ogg

(1,474 posts)
59. Hell has frozen over...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:20 AM
Dec 2012

I read the OP, watched the video, and recommended the OP without noticing who posted it.

Then I read your comment, and thought (cough) no way!

So I scrolled to the top of the thread to see who the original poster was, and sure enough…

Now I have to ask.

Is it that miracle time of year, or does SS have an immediate effect in the life of ProSense?

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
61. Maybe it's like Bart Ehrman, who peered so deeply at the scriptures
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:58 AM
Dec 2012

he lost his faith.

Maybe ProSense searched for a counter argument to Obama wanting to steal our money to pay for what conservatives have done to this country and realized there wasn't one. That maybe Obama really is what he says he is: a Republican.

Larry Ogg

(1,474 posts)
67. How long can you be screwed before you realize your being screwed...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:16 AM
Dec 2012

For most Americans, faith and idol worship convinces them that a lifetime of whips, chains, and bondage is anything but...

Even if truth were a ton of bricks waiting to fall on their head, cognitive dissidence ensures they wont be moved, so they keep going back for more of the same.

I lost my faith along time ago, but still, for those who are still holding on, them bricks have got to hurt!

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. He never liked Obama
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:05 PM
Dec 2012

he doesn't understand how government works. He needs a basic civics class. He doesn't understand 13-D chess.

What did I miss?

K/R

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
57. Laguardia was more democratic than most of those "Democrats"...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:24 AM
Dec 2012

And he had an R next to his name. The guy was as progressive as Paul Wellstone.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
88. Yes but...
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:30 AM
Dec 2012

Nixon is paying for sins that even people well to his right have never been guilty of. How many third way Democrats have turned Cambodia into a place worse than Hell? How many third way Democrats broke into a hotel to spy on their opponents?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
45. in other words, Democrats have to use the exact opposite methods the Republicans do
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:11 PM
Dec 2012

to enact the same policies.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
53. When there is it will be too late.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:49 AM
Dec 2012

You can't wait until there is a deal to voice concern. I don't understand why people keep saying "it hasn't happened yet". That doesn't make any sense!

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
78. And when they start back up in the new year....
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:52 PM
Dec 2012

it won't be still there? It's been offered up a couple of times now, do you really believe it won't be again?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
86. your
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:54 PM
Dec 2012

question is not relevant to me. That's why you got no answer to it. No one knows what will happen when they return in January. Keep sharpening those knives brutus, you'll get him yet. Not.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
25. Or maybe TPTB (or whatever) had a version of this plan ready to go no matter whothe election winner.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:09 PM
Dec 2012

Seems like a certain group of people always manage to get the stinky end of the stick and a certain group of people always manage to come out benefiting even more from it.

Always.


Larry Ogg

(1,474 posts)
60. TPTB (The Powers That Be) is a very small minority of super rich psychopaths who...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:44 AM
Dec 2012

Finance our pretend democracy by pumping hundreds of billions of fraudulently gained wealth into the campaign coffers of both political parties.

And with the blessings of right wing religion psychopaths, rigged elections, and the M$M (Main Stream Media) which is also owned by the TPTB, they can assure that most ideological blind democrats and republican will vote for the TPTB's very own hand picked venal sock puppets.

In other words, the TPTB is the one's who decide, with few exceptions, who most Americans will vote into elective office.

This insures that, no matter what the outcome of the election, the TPTB will always be the big winner, and the to blind to see 'Blue and Red workers' will always be the big looser.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
92. we can't outbid the rich for one simple reason (besides that we don't have the money)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:41 PM
Dec 2012

we can never match the insider trading tips and high paying, high prestige jobs for politicians when they leave office and for their family members while the politicians are still in office.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
20. President Sanders has a pretty good ring to it.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:53 PM
Dec 2012

I would hope in this day we would have no problem nominating and electing
a man of such high morals and backbone.
I would vote for him.
Maybe a Sanders - Warren ticket?
Now THAT would be sweet.
I'd say a million to 1 shot though.

A guy can dream though...

indepat

(20,899 posts)
34. I Join Senator Sanders in expressing disappointment in accepting an extremely RW panacea
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:25 PM
Dec 2012

as the cure for all the nation's ills. Disappointment times infinity squared to the millionth power. Of course we all knew when Messrs, Simpson and Bowles were appointed, social security, Medicare, and Medicaid would bear the brunt and the most affluent and large, highly profitable corporations would continue to slop mightily at the public welfare trough.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
36. K&R Signed. Thank you so much for posting this. I just retired in Sept. at 65 and
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:08 PM
Dec 2012

didn't think I'd make it this far for medicare. NOW, this talk of reducing benefits. I am saddened too.

 

plethoro

(594 posts)
37. Signed and just sent it to a bunch
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:27 PM
Dec 2012

of people for their signatures. You lie to me about not touching social security, you are now redundant.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
54. Looking forward to listening to him tomorrow on Thom Hartmann's show. #16567
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:50 AM
Dec 2012

16567
SIGNATURES SO FAR

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
55. Well Lawrence O'Donnell said last night that the Republicans would not accept their own deal
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:52 AM
Dec 2012

today and he was right. Isn't is possible that the President knew that they would not accept those deals and handed them to them anyway. Now he doesn't have to give them anything I think.

If we go past Jan. 1 I doubt that the Republican's are going to say "no'' to a tax cut to the middle class.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
65. I am confused will SS be taken off now that Plan B got voted down?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:06 AM
Dec 2012

Or will it still be offered by Pres in counter deal?

I signed in any case

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
69. Never thought I would be K&R'ing a ProSense post.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:37 AM
Dec 2012

Signed Bernies petition a couple days ago, and hope everyone here on DU will also sign.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
71. But Bernie Sanders isn't even a Democrat.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:35 AM
Dec 2012

Which is weird, because for the first time since I was a teenager, I'm not sure if I'm one either.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
75. Signed because I love Sanders, not because I have any faith in theeffectiveness of petitions.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:27 PM
Dec 2012

Our politicians are bought and paid for and looking for more in the future.

A million signatures won't change that.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
76. Way past time
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:38 PM
Dec 2012

to stop negotiating with the limp Boehner. There is no point in negotiating with the Right. He should try throwing a few bones to his left. Strengthen SS, Medicaid, Medicare and please tax the rich and cut the fat corrupt wasteful DoD.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
77. ProSense, I sometimes feel that Bernie Sanders is the only person
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:39 PM
Dec 2012

in the Senate who expresses my views. He has never wavered, never disappointed.

Denise21

(63 posts)
82. Mr. President, I am Disappointed
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:19 PM
Dec 2012

I am extremely disappointed and feel betrayed by President Obama's promises not to touch Social Security. I am disabled living with MS and gave my vote to Obama. I begged people to vote for him saying he would be much stronger second term and what does he do he lets the right still take over. Obama what is wrong with you!!! I want to you to fight and fight hard for the people that voted for you because if you don't I will never vote again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
91. ouch! examples like yours show why "bipartisanship" isn't kindness, it's corruption and weakness
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:58 PM
Dec 2012
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
83. 18829 here...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:21 PM
Dec 2012

sometimes I think I am too cynical when I tell people that Wall Street runs this country, and that the scene in DC is just a dog and pony show. But they keep proving me right.

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