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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI believe that this "leaked" chained CPI proposal is a false flag...
when it doesn't happen, Obama looks like a solid representative of the will of the people. And we can all go back to watching American idol and ignore the "crazy" fringes who protest the surveillance state and the targeted killing of children.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Perhaps there is a reason why staunch Obama supporters are all in a tizzy about the prospect.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)then be reassured, then they will acquiesce to strict gun laws?
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)As in, "Well, he can be trusted to protect the social safety net so he should be trusted on issues of 'national security'. It feeds into the meme that Obama is good. That he wouldn't have to blow children to smithereens unless there was a very good reason for doing so.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)trouble to go to for an issue most people don't even think about.
kids in afghanistan? maybe if they saw some reportage and photos, which they mostly don't.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)What I mean, is that, if (IF) there are no changes whatsoever to SS and Medicare, Obama looks like a hero the the U.S. public. The average U.S. person is now satisfied that they can retire with their government benefits intact so why are those crazy leftists protesting against this nice man.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)they say (it costs a lot of time in trying to read between the lines...)
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)You are not yet up to the requisite eleven dimensions in order to follow Obama's chess moves.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)If this is a game, it sucks.
I know what the President, his team and Democrats have been saying since the election: Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022016846
The current offer is either a rumor or a sick joke given those statements and the President's campaign position:
The President knows that guaranteed Social Security benefits are not handouts, but a bedrock of the commitment to retirement security America makes to our seniors. He believes that no current beneficiaries should see their basic benefits reduced, and he will not accept any approach that slashes benefits for future generations. President Obama stands firmly opposed to privatizing Social Securitythe future security of hard-working Americans should not be dependent on the fluctuations of the stock market. That is why the President has called on Congress to develop a bipartisan plan that follows these principles:
- Any reform should strengthen Social Security for future generations and restore long-term solvency.
- The administration will oppose any measures that privatize or weaken the Social Security system.
- While all measures to strengthen solvency should be on the table, the administration will not accept an approach that slashes benefits for future generations.
- No current beneficiaries should see their basic benefits reduced.
- Reforms should strengthen retirement security for the most vulnerable, including low-income seniors.
- Reform should maintain robust disability and survivors benefits.
Game Changer: Biden Guarantees No Changes in Social Security
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021226318
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)but putting a little cut here and there is not a slash.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:36 PM - Edit history (1)
I have been saying it all along, that we are being propagandized to be grateful when SS and Medicare are used as hostages again and pulled back again.
We get more austerity no matter what. The banks retain their power and immunity, no matter what. The MIC gets fed, no matter what. There is absolutely nothing on the horizon to slow the looting or help the people. Dangling this potential assault and then drawing it back at the last minute is how they will try to retain the illusion of being our heroes and make us cheer for more austerity, looting, and protection of the banks rather than demanding to know why it all continues unabated, even under a Democratic President, and why we are not being helped. They don't *need* to cut these programs now; they are already making money hand over fist and systematically privatizing and rigging the system to make more. What they *need* is to calm and reassure an increasingly restless and suspicious country so that they can keep on doing it.
We get more pain from this deal no matter what, but by carrying out this little act, the further looting can be played, outrageously, as a victory for the people.
We live and drown in carefully crafted illusion and propaganda to justify corporate bloodsucking. North Korea has nothing on Wall Street when it comes to stagecraft.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)in the first debate.
I take him at his word.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)Everyone's getting onset amnesia
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)But they play the long game, these corporatists.