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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe shooter was raised in gun nuttery. Imagine if he had been a Muslim
Then there would be endless speculation on if "radicalism" played a role in the tragedy. What about the possibility of radicalism in the form of the survivalist gun culture?
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)Guess which form of nuttery primarily exists in white middle class suburbia and which form of nuttery primarily exists amongst brown people?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And they shot even greater numbers.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)Not hard to imagine that the mom's survivalist midset and the presence of all these weapons playeed a role...maybe the main one.
burnsei sensei
(1,820 posts)and the killing done in the name of Islam, then, at least, there would be some meaning to it all.
As it is, it looks like an absurd act committed for no reason by a man with no spirit.
If he were an Islamist, then there would be some coherency to it all, even if the pain remained great for decades.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)The fact that he was muslim was the subject of commentary immediately although it didn't have anythiing to do with it
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I'm being barraged by replies that this is some disease that he had.
I say it was the raising.
And I feel that this is an extremely important distinction. One that we really ought to discuss. And without name calling. It feels as if even as we try to make the world a better place, people are having a hard time being clear and open about this.
I'm calling out parenting, if I need to be more clear.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)Buy would this have happened as a result? Honestly, I don't think so, guns and mental illness are a deadlly combination
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)His mommy probably kept him in a paranoid mind-fuck. Probably. We will see.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)But we're aiming in the right direction. All of this "rugged individual" crap that we've all grown up with. It's time for sensitivity.
Maybe, just maybe we can work together and build a better world. It's why I came to this forum.
pop topcan
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alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)These aren't mutually exclusive claims.
Bonhomme Richard
(9,001 posts)That screams survivalist.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)They are available *everywhere*
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)We managed to keep the focus on the weapons in those cases, even as the Ft Hood shooter injected religion into it...
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)White American conservatives would be perfectly fine with limiting gun ownership to only white Christians if they had their druthers.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)A rich guy in Manhattan can get a gun, a poor woman in the Bronx doesn't stand a chance.
CanonRay
(14,146 posts)this survivalist gun culture is just as radical as the jihadists.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Surprise! Use guns to solve (whatever) problems (they happen to have).
People who aren't taught that guns solve problems rarely consider guns as problem solving devices.
This is a big shock to anyone who is a fucking moron.
pop topcan
(124 posts)People who know a gun can solve SOME problems are the smart ones...those who think they can never be useful are the "fucking morons".