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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJon Chait’s Miserable Endorsement of Raising the Medicare Eligibility Age
Since Jon Chait has never met a concession he didnt like, he comes out with an endorsement of raising the Medicare eligibility age as part of a long-term deficit deal. So his cover for what is universally regarded as a terrible idea surely led deficit scolds seeking to use the problem to weaken the safety net to give each other high-fives.
Lets look at Chaits reasoning. I would probably start with the fact that hes not 64 or 65. My parents are, and until my dad reached Medicare in November, they were paying $2,500 a month on the private market for health insurance. So Ill be happy to provide him with their phone number so he can tell them how its tolerable for them to spend two years more than they expected doing that.
But soft! Here are his actual reasons. One, Democrats have to accept concessions (thats always a good strategic place from which to begin a negotiation!), and the scolds seem to like raising the eligibility age. So lets give em what they want. This is a bizarrely content-free assertion. The phrase If Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles wanted you to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do it? springs to mind. Second, he thinks that Republicans will somehow forget that this only raises $100 billion, at most, over 10 years, and will then drop any demands to hit a particular number in the negotiations.
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This is cynical, to say the least. Its also completely wrong. The one thing we know will be a side effect of increasing the Medicare eligibility age is that insurance premiums will skyrocket. It will make Medicare more expensive because they lose relatively healthy 65 and 66 year-olds from their risk pool, and it will make private insurance more expensive because they add relatively sick 65 and 66 year-olds to their risk pool. Insurers hate the idea for just this reason. As a result, everyones premiums will rise, and cost-shifting will ensue from the government to its citizens.
People with busy lives dont differentiate between what provisions in health care can be attributed to the Affordable Care Act and what provisions come from a fiscal deal. Theyll just know that the ACA got implemented in 2014, and as a result their insurance rates jumped. Its maybe the worst strategic plan in the world to raise the Medicare age to bolster support for the Affordable Care Act by raising how much everyone has to spend on health insurance, particularly those who dont get subsidies, the same significant chunk of middle-class voters who have grown accustomed to the assumption that they will be able to afford health care.
The idiocy on display here can hardly be believed. The dangerous part is how many members of the Democratic caucus might agree with this logic, Nancy Pelosi excepted.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/12/07/jon-chaits-miserable-endorsement-of-raising-the-medicare-eligibility-age/
Lets look at Chaits reasoning. I would probably start with the fact that hes not 64 or 65. My parents are, and until my dad reached Medicare in November, they were paying $2,500 a month on the private market for health insurance. So Ill be happy to provide him with their phone number so he can tell them how its tolerable for them to spend two years more than they expected doing that.
But soft! Here are his actual reasons. One, Democrats have to accept concessions (thats always a good strategic place from which to begin a negotiation!), and the scolds seem to like raising the eligibility age. So lets give em what they want. This is a bizarrely content-free assertion. The phrase If Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles wanted you to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do it? springs to mind. Second, he thinks that Republicans will somehow forget that this only raises $100 billion, at most, over 10 years, and will then drop any demands to hit a particular number in the negotiations.
...
This is cynical, to say the least. Its also completely wrong. The one thing we know will be a side effect of increasing the Medicare eligibility age is that insurance premiums will skyrocket. It will make Medicare more expensive because they lose relatively healthy 65 and 66 year-olds from their risk pool, and it will make private insurance more expensive because they add relatively sick 65 and 66 year-olds to their risk pool. Insurers hate the idea for just this reason. As a result, everyones premiums will rise, and cost-shifting will ensue from the government to its citizens.
People with busy lives dont differentiate between what provisions in health care can be attributed to the Affordable Care Act and what provisions come from a fiscal deal. Theyll just know that the ACA got implemented in 2014, and as a result their insurance rates jumped. Its maybe the worst strategic plan in the world to raise the Medicare age to bolster support for the Affordable Care Act by raising how much everyone has to spend on health insurance, particularly those who dont get subsidies, the same significant chunk of middle-class voters who have grown accustomed to the assumption that they will be able to afford health care.
The idiocy on display here can hardly be believed. The dangerous part is how many members of the Democratic caucus might agree with this logic, Nancy Pelosi excepted.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/12/07/jon-chaits-miserable-endorsement-of-raising-the-medicare-eligibility-age/
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Jon Chait’s Miserable Endorsement of Raising the Medicare Eligibility Age (Original Post)
phantom power
Dec 2012
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(116,464 posts)1. Dear Jon,
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Whats more, raising the Medicare retirement age would help strengthen the fight to preserve the Affordable Care Act. Republicans may be coming to grips with their lack of leverage over the Bush tax cuts, but their jihad against universal health insurance lives on. Having narrowly lost their wildly tendentious legal argument for striking down health care, they are devising newer and even more implausible ones. Republican governors continue to turn down federal funding to cover their poorest uninsured citizens and refuse to set up private insurance exchanges.
The political basis for the rights opposition to universal health insurance has always been that the uninsured are politically disorganized and weak. But a side effect of raising the Medicare retirement age would be that a large cohort of 65- and 66-year-olds would suddenly find themselves needing the Affordable Care Act to buy their health insurance. Which is to say, Republicans attacking the Affordable Care Act would no longer be attacking the usual band of very poor or desperate people they can afford to ignore but a significant chunk of middle-class voters who have grown accustomed to the assumption that they will be able to afford health care. Strengthening the political coalition for universal coverage seems like a helpful side benefit possibly even one conservatives come to regret, and liberals, to feel relief they accepted.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/12/go-ahead-raise-the-medicare-retirement-age.html
Whats more, raising the Medicare retirement age would help strengthen the fight to preserve the Affordable Care Act. Republicans may be coming to grips with their lack of leverage over the Bush tax cuts, but their jihad against universal health insurance lives on. Having narrowly lost their wildly tendentious legal argument for striking down health care, they are devising newer and even more implausible ones. Republican governors continue to turn down federal funding to cover their poorest uninsured citizens and refuse to set up private insurance exchanges.
The political basis for the rights opposition to universal health insurance has always been that the uninsured are politically disorganized and weak. But a side effect of raising the Medicare retirement age would be that a large cohort of 65- and 66-year-olds would suddenly find themselves needing the Affordable Care Act to buy their health insurance. Which is to say, Republicans attacking the Affordable Care Act would no longer be attacking the usual band of very poor or desperate people they can afford to ignore but a significant chunk of middle-class voters who have grown accustomed to the assumption that they will be able to afford health care. Strengthening the political coalition for universal coverage seems like a helpful side benefit possibly even one conservatives come to regret, and liberals, to feel relief they accepted.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/12/go-ahead-raise-the-medicare-retirement-age.html
....fuck Republicans.
I mean, it's fairly idiotic to bargain based on what Republicans want. They have no fucking leverage.
The goal isn't to move Medicare recipients to the ACA, it's to strengthen health care reform to make it more in line with Medicare.
Krugman: Its Health Care Costs, Stupid
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021922243