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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElon Musk has backed out of his Pledge
To give TSF $45 million a month per Threads post from Ron Filipkowski with Musk saying "he doesn't subscribe to cult of personality"
Update: link to article: https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/

underpants
(189,686 posts)2naSalit
(96,267 posts)
surfered
(5,880 posts)You will see that Musk started a PAC, along with other tech billionaires, to support Republican candidates which include Trump.
Musk opposes Democratic policies, saying we are for censorship, etc.
You can’t trust what he says, including his denials.
drmeow
(5,511 posts)because words are coming out of their mouths.
CentralMass
(16,091 posts)brush
(59,419 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:28 PM - Edit history (1)
agingdem
(8,544 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:43 PM - Edit history (1)
backing away from geezer Trump..and I also suspect Judge "Bend Over For Trump" Cannon is gulping back tears as her chance of a Supreme Court seat has gone from a sure thing to a never gonna happen...thoughts and prayers...
brush
(59,419 posts)llmart
(16,359 posts)for the moniker "geezer Trump". Can we get this to catch on?
rubbersole
(9,616 posts)And beauty salons. And PTA bake sales. And golf courses. And....
Dave Bowman
(4,886 posts)Karma is a beach.
Response to Dave Bowman (Reply #53)
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wnylib
(25,211 posts)soldierant
(8,318 posts)Every time I look at her official picture, I feel like calling an exorcist. And it''s mostly those eyes. I'm afraid tears coming out ofthem could pollute the entire Caribbean., an that scares me.
wnylib
(25,211 posts)so blatantly only to realize that it was all in vain. She will not get the SC appointment that she so desperately wanted.
soldierant
(8,318 posts)flying_wahini
(8,049 posts)Pinback
(13,107 posts)AZ8theist
(6,676 posts)A sometimes bullshitter. Always a D-BAG.
Ocelot II
(123,950 posts)angrychair
(10,447 posts)...
LostOne4Ever
(9,636 posts)LearnedHand
(4,590 posts)The back part of his sentence is "unless it's my cult and my personality."
UTUSN
(73,677 posts)newdeal2
(2,176 posts)This was a marriage of convenience between big tech and Trump and it’s going to blow up at some point.
vrguy
(256 posts)n/t
lindysalsagal
(22,566 posts)



dchill
(41,804 posts)Justice matters.
(8,228 posts)Just like they always do.
Martin68
(25,284 posts)dchill
(41,804 posts)bucolic_frolic
(49,516 posts)Sky Jewels
(8,984 posts)Tribetime
(6,472 posts)Silent Type
(8,843 posts)Solly Mack
(94,606 posts)Johnny2X2X
(22,621 posts)I wonder if someone talked some sense into him. That other billionaire he was trying to get to join him had a pretty good public comeback calling Trump “depraved.”
irisblue
(34,865 posts)[





snip-"What’s been reported in the media is simply not true,” Musk said. “I am not donating $45 million a month to Trump.”
snip-"The Wall Street Journal first reported on the claim, citing sources “familiar with the matter.” The outlet has not yet issued a retraction or follow-up article altering its reporting.
Musk did note that he created a super PAC, called the America PAC, to help support Trump. A super PAC is a group that can raise unlimited amounts of money for a campaign’s independent expenditures—such as for ads, or for day-to-day operations— but doesn’t donate directly to the campaign. They have become prominent among both Democrats and Republicans since a 2010 D.C. appeals court decision that authorized the existence of the super PACS. For a normal PAC, donors are limited to gifts of only $5,000 a year."
snip-"He also added that one of the principles the PAC aligned with was “freedom,” particularly freedom from “as much government intervention as possible.” The hand of government gets heavier every year, and if we don’t roll back some restrictions and regulations, eventually, “everything will be illegal,” Musk said."
more there.
That guy is a gaping asshole
dalton99a
(87,743 posts)Space X uses NASA's Kennedy Space Center for launches and they have received more than a billion dollar in government contracts. The next ones to be bid on are in the near future, so Musk knows which side his bread is buttered on and it's not going to be Trump after January.
Martin68
(25,284 posts)EV, and a successful launch vehicle. He also is very good at picking useful people (engineers, businessmen, etc) to carry out his ideas. He is also a grand manipulator. The problem is he's a sociopath who takes sole credit for all of his success and doesn't give a shit about anybody else. That will be his downfall.
ecstatic
(34,703 posts)Funny how eloon waited so long to shut it down. They're both liars so who knows what's true.
Link to tweet
Diraven
(1,335 posts)Expect Trump to call Musk a traitor in his next rally. If he says nothing about it then the deal is probably still happening on the DL.
karynnj
(60,186 posts)He says he is not giving 45 million a month to Trump. He then speaks of his PAC, WHICH SUPPORTS TRUMP. He does not say how much he gave that PAC or how much he is spending a month from it.
He MAY be spending 45 million from it.
Renew Deal
(83,710 posts)Iggo
(48,753 posts)Straight up giving it to Trump's campaign is all kinds of illegal.
karynnj
(60,186 posts)ecstatic
(34,703 posts)trump by promising 45M per month in exchange for putting jd vance on the ticket. Now that jd's on the ticket, musk doesn't need to pay him shit.
karynnj
(60,186 posts)With Vance. Although Trump does not seem to have many genuine relationships, could this lead to hostility.
rurallib
(63,566 posts)ETA - did Trump get a pre-nup?
mucholderthandirt
(1,418 posts)He's just realized that Kamala Harris is going to wipe the floor with Trump, and all that money would just be wasted. He could buy out another idea and run it into the ground, by God.
senseandsensibility
(21,543 posts)to make him second guess his investment.
moonscape
(5,482 posts)that whole sorry bunch deserve each other.
Starry Messenger
(32,376 posts)And knows the terrain has shifted to the point where he’d just be lighting his money on fire
XRubicon
(2,241 posts)ETA a Threads link
Hey- I previewed this and it looks as good as twitter so why don't we stop posting twitter links and feeding the fascists?
ETA I guess it was a threads link... super happy to see that.
LeftInTX
(32,761 posts)


EXCLUSIVE: Musk's modest abode: Elon's $50,000 Texas ranch is laid bare for first time - complete with rocket-shaped kids' playhouse and Tesla solar panels - just a block from SpaceX Starbase and two miles from Mexican border
Elon Musk's Boca Chica, Texas home has been revealed for the first time in exclusive DailyMail.com photos
Musk, 50, has claimed his 'primary' abode is a $50,000 rental property near the SpaceX Starbase after downsizing and pledging to 'own no home' last year
Neighbors confirmed the billionaire does indeed reside in Boca Chica – at least some of the time – in a three-bed, ranch-style home a block away from his space firm's production facility
Musk - who last month agreed to pay around $44billion for Twitter - has whitewashed the walls, planted new trees and covered the entire roof in high-tech Tesla-made solar roof tiles
His security entourage lives next door and the 1970s property is guarded with a dozen or so cameras, several nestling high above the street in the tops of palm trees
The tech founder, who recently had his seventh and eighth children with on-off partner Grimes, has also built a custom-made playhouse and swing in the back yard that closely resembles a SpaceX rocket
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10775779/Elon-Musks-50k-Texas-home-near-SpaceX-Starbase-revealed.html
Note: The ranch house is worth about $200,000. But he did pay around $50,000 for the house located in the middle of nowhere. He also owns a $50,000 tiny house. Which is on the same property.
He did spend some $$ to remodel the house.

Alice Kramden
(2,559 posts)Thx for the Weird details - of course it's weird, it's Musk
Kazzy
(28 posts)Here is one: I also read on DU that many people are no longer buying Teslas because he is a Trump supporter now…
Elon could just be looking after his companies with this move.. I doubt Maga are the target audience for Teslas 😂
Blue Owl
(55,782 posts)Bundbuster
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LeftInTX
(32,761 posts)badhair77
(4,809 posts)LeftInTX
(32,761 posts)
Thrill
(19,327 posts)He’s reacting to TSLA’s awful earnings. Or he just hated Biden he was willing to back Trump
GoCubsGo
(33,678 posts)I knew from the start that he wasn't going to pay up. He's full of shit.
nattyice
(340 posts)DFW
(57,624 posts)He doesn‘t subscribe to tossing $45 million a month into some nebulous fund that Donald Trump can raid at will and put the cash into his own pocket. I can sympathize!
That is, I would, if I only had $45 million a month in spare cash.
He just figured that out?
Unless it's HIS cult and HE"S the personality
SomedayKindaLove
(1,108 posts)Boy a knife sharpening business for the GOP could make a killing about now.
Justice matters.
(8,228 posts)is a loser?
Or was it the abysmal drop in Tesla's car sales due to his daily propaganda for the right-wing fascists?
Or was it the convicted felon he supports trashing electric-cars in his crazy ramblings at his lying rallies?
Maybe a combination of all the above.
FalloutShelter
(13,209 posts)Crash and burn.
CentralMass
(16,091 posts)Playingmantis
(377 posts)Another brick in Trumps Red Wall has fallen....
SunSeeker
(55,322 posts)Eloon only subscribes to one cult--himself.
intrepidity
(8,219 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(160,892 posts)Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)toad-eye
(42 posts)I highly doubt Musk-rat is being truthful.
More likely the report about all the business Tesla is losing hit the fan and this is his attempt at damage control.
I believe the money is still flowing.
Even if he wasn't giving to either candidate, I don't like him or his pudgy entitled face and would never buy one of his stupid cars.
Wednesdays
(20,448 posts)
diva77
(7,880 posts)Maru Kitteh
(29,886 posts)

dchill
(41,804 posts)CentralMass
(16,091 posts)realized that being an asshole has driven his customer base.away
Martin68
(25,284 posts)That's very telling. I think Trump is in the Dumpster.
Metaphorical
(2,393 posts)On Sunday, when Biden stepped down as candidate and endorsed Harris, one of my first thoughts was that Musk was going to close his checkbook, and that when he did, it'd be the start of a stampede away from the GOP by the billionaire donors.
If Trump is holding outside rallies, it means he can't afford indoor venues. The GOP convention was embarrassing in part because of how bare bones it looked. Yet the RNC had been claiming something on the order of $250 million in their war chest in the last couple of months. A little bit of reflection shed some light on the issue.
There are quite a few paper billionaires out there, but it's worth understanding that many of them are fairly heavily invested, and in general they are far more likely to borrow against their investments as collateral rather than actually liquidating the principle. Musk's big payday was to have been his compensation package from Tesla, but that's still not (as far as I'm aware) materialized, and the value of his holdings are way down from where they were at his peak. This means that while Musk is not hurting, $45 million a month (almost $250 million dollars in total) is a not insignificant amount of money even to a billionaire.
Musk was making an investment, and under Biden, that bet looked safe. Sunday - and Kamala Harris's adroit handling of it - changed the equation dramatically. Understand that Musk "acquired" Twitter primarily to influence both public opinion and the election, but he didn't actually pay all that much of his own money to do it. Instead, he bought up junk bonds and similar questions financial instruments to finance it, probably with stock as collateral, and if he doesn't get Twitter (excuse me, X) off the ground, he's significantly underwater. If Trump loses, that's only going to add to Musk's loss (especially since getting a loan for a somewhat dubious campaign contribution of that magnitude is likely VERY difficult, not to mention probably illegal if Trump DID lose.
This means that Musk's "contributions" were counted in total when they had simply been pledged. Musk walking away from a promise (which he has been known to do in the past) is moreover likely to cause others in that circle to follow suit, for much the same reason. Even if the RNC funds aren't being "repurposed" for Trump's legal fees (and I would be surprised if they weren't), the pledges are being vacated just as the campaign season really begins, leaving the RNC (also known as Trump, Inc.) broke for all intents and purposes.
I see a few things coming out of this. Campaign ads all up and down the chain on the RNC side are going to disappear by September. The MAGA devout are going to find that their signage and t-shirts have been mysteriously lost in the mail. The barrage of polls that have obvious biases are going to slow down to the more legitimate ones, and the cycle's going to accelerate.
Everyone wants to back a winner. No one wants to back a loser.
Demovictory9
(35,044 posts)He also added that one of the principles the PAC aligned with was “freedom,” particularly freedom from “as much government intervention as possible.” The hand of government gets heavier every year, and if we don’t roll back some restrictions and regulations, eventually, “everything will be illegal,” Musk said.
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Like abortion?
Quixote1818
(30,856 posts)dsp3000
(656 posts)AllaN01Bear
(24,519 posts)Orangepeel
(13,973 posts)WhatTheFlux
(41 posts)Doesn't Elon have his own cult o' personality to fund?
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,033 posts)don't trust him at all.