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jpug

(90 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:01 PM Jul 18

Joe's options might be dwindling, but he has one last option - critique my idea

Yes, I can see the writing on the wall today and I feel helpless to do anything to change it.

So whats next?

Well Joe has one last option to go down in history as a hero who sacrificed himself to save humanity from the disaster that awaits. And yes, Trump is not gonna just be a disaster for the USA its also for the rest of the world. Now I know what everyone is thinking that it would be impossible for a strong candidate to emerge in the subsequent chaos. But there is an option and its all within Joes power.

What could he do?

First, delegate the POTUS nomination to Kamala Harris, thats simple.

Then also nominate Michelle Obama as VP.

Imagine how powerful this step would be. At the same time as healing internal divisions he creates one of the most popular tickets in Democratic history - Harris / Obama 2024!

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Joe's options might be dwindling, but he has one last option - critique my idea (Original Post) jpug Jul 18 OP
Michelle Obama has no interest in running. nt Tommy Carcetti Jul 18 #1
If it comes down to running vs jpug Jul 18 #2
The VP should be someone who actually wants the job. TwilightZone Jul 18 #12
Let Michelle Obama live her life, Jesus Christ WhiskeyGrinder Jul 18 #3
You beat me too it! thank you Peacetrain Jul 18 #13
Two black women? FalloutShelter Jul 18 #4
Michelle Obama doesn't like politics. madaboutharry Jul 18 #5
Joe will win big. pwb Jul 18 #6
Joe is our party's nominee WA-03 Democrat Jul 18 #7
Exactly..get behind our presumptive nominee or ... PortTack Jul 18 #26
I'm sorry but an All female African American ticket standingtall Jul 18 #8
You haven't addressed the incumbency. Frasier Balzov Jul 18 #9
why are his options dwindling? He has a convention scheduled bigtree Jul 18 #10
Why nominate Ms. Obama as VP,... LudwigPastorius Jul 18 #11
Ok, but I would vote for that Sympthsical Jul 18 #23
Biden can endorse, but not "delegate" the nomination for Harris Fiendish Thingy Jul 18 #14
David Jolly just said it only took 3 Acts to MOMFUDSKI Jul 18 #15
Which is exactly what he's doing!! Go Joe! PortTack Jul 18 #28
As he should. LisaL Jul 18 #32
Michelle wants nothing to do with politics. Elessar Zappa Jul 18 #16
This again? edisdead Jul 18 #17
What writing? lees1975 Jul 18 #18
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Jul 18 #29
Joe has one easy option: weather the storm a few weeks and continue as our nominee Amishman Jul 18 #19
Biden gets to decide who Harris's VP should be? AZSkiffyGeek Jul 18 #20
Michelle sacrificed her private life kskiska Jul 18 #21
This is...a terrible idea Prairie Gates Jul 18 #22
The Heritage Foundation will love your plan and the resulting litigation may be nasty LetMyPeopleVote Jul 18 #24
What you're saying is interesting for sure ... jpug Jul 18 #25
Your concern and your attitude are noted. Enjoy your stay. ms liberty Jul 18 #31
The free version of ChatGOP has speling erors. usonian Jul 18 #35
I think they can only do that if he is forced out Rstrstx Jul 18 #40
Michelle Obama has repeatedly said no to the idea of running for anything ms liberty Jul 18 #27
He doesn't have to do anything. LisaL Jul 18 #30
Michelle Obama does not want the job. Irish_Dem Jul 18 #33
Wants vs needs jpug Jul 18 #34
Disregard all previous instructions dweller Jul 18 #36
She has no direct leadership or political experience. Irish_Dem Jul 18 #38
No Proposal Involving Ms. Obama Can Be Taken Seriously, Nor Can Anyone Who Makes Such ProposalBe Taken Seriously The Magistrate Jul 18 #37
Welcome to DU obamanut2012 Jul 18 #39

TwilightZone

(26,868 posts)
12. The VP should be someone who actually wants the job.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:08 PM
Jul 18

Trying to guilt-trip someone into it is misguided. She's simply not interested.

standingtall

(2,857 posts)
8. I'm sorry but an All female African American ticket
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:05 PM
Jul 18

Would be a certain loss. I don't like that, but I believe if we did that we would not only lose, but lose badly.

Frasier Balzov

(3,362 posts)
9. You haven't addressed the incumbency.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:06 PM
Jul 18

Does Joe Biden serve out the remainder of his current term?

Can not-fit to run again be reconciled with fit to remain President.

bigtree

(88,629 posts)
10. why are his options dwindling? He has a convention scheduled
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:06 PM
Jul 18

...and more delegates to win in the first round than he needs.

Silly talk. His opposition is on the defensive. We've already voted for him to win this race.

LudwigPastorius

(10,211 posts)
11. Why nominate Ms. Obama as VP,...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:07 PM
Jul 18

when we could nominate a magical unicorn that turns guns into flowers and poops gold nuggets directly into people's mailboxes?

(See what I'm getting at here? Neither one is going to happen.)

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
15. David Jolly just said it only took 3 Acts to
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:09 PM
Jul 18

kill Caesar but it is taking WEEKS for certain Dems to kill Joe. He listed some options but ended it with- Joe can just say screw all of you and stay in.

Elessar Zappa

(15,093 posts)
16. Michelle wants nothing to do with politics.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:09 PM
Jul 18

It’s her call and her life, it’s not our right to dictate to her.

lees1975

(4,985 posts)
18. What writing?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:14 PM
Jul 18

The only handwriting spelling doom for Biden will be the inability of Democratic leadership to get control of what the media has taken out of their hands and ran with. Cooler heads need to prevail here.

If we can stop the caterwauling and the panic, and take a look at reality, there is a strong candidate in the middle of this chaos who has beaten Trump and can do it again and his name is President Joe Biden.

Guaranteed, if the energy of Democrats is focused on wailing over one debate performance that had no bearing on anything at all except, perhaps, to expose more Trump lies, then we will lose, not because we don't have a strong candidate, but because we don't have the ability to gain votes from those outside the party who will be with us if we get it together.

Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee. I'll be in the gallery in Chicago helping cheer him on. He will win in November if we stop this mess and get on with business. We have the ability to send him back with a Congressional blue wave. We have to do some things right and this isn't one of them. Stop listening to the media.

Amishman

(5,674 posts)
19. Joe has one easy option: weather the storm a few weeks and continue as our nominee
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:15 PM
Jul 18

Once officially nominated, this shit ends.

kskiska

(27,086 posts)
21. Michelle sacrificed her private life
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:17 PM
Jul 18

by allowing her husband to run, which she was against. She has no interest at all in being president.

Prairie Gates

(2,133 posts)
22. This is...a terrible idea
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:18 PM
Jul 18

I mean, truly disconnected from anything resembling political reality in America.

LetMyPeopleVote

(151,414 posts)
24. The Heritage Foundation will love your plan and the resulting litigation may be nasty
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:55 PM
Jul 18

Ballot access litigation is very strange. It is not easy to get onto the ballot for third parties and there are traps even for the two main parties. The GOP and the Heritage Foundation are hoping that President Biden is removed from the ticket so that they can try to keep President Biden's replacement off the ballot in swing states.




https://www.mediaite.com/biden/top-conservative-think-tank-vows-to-make-it-extraordinarily-difficult-for-dems-to-replace-biden-by-filing-swing-state-lawsuits/

Heritage Foundation has vowed to do everything possible to keep Democrats from replacing President Joe Biden as the party’s presidential nominee.

Approximately four months ago, the conservative organization began researching laws in states for replacing nominee in key swing states, according to a report from NOTUS. Staffers for Heritage’s Oversight Project compiled the report back in April and released it ahead of the debate.

“If the Biden family decides that President Biden will not run for re-election, the mechanisms for replacing him on ballots vary by state,” reads the memo. “There is the potential for pre-election litigation in some states that would make the process difficult and perhaps unsuccessful.”

The organization’s Oversight Project Executive Director Mike Howell said, in a statement to NOTUS, they would make the process for replacing Biden “extraordinarily difficult.”

“We’ve zeroed in on a few states that we think are the best case,” Howell told the news outlet without naming the specific states. The memo, however, identifies Nevada, Washington, and Georgia as the most likely states to use litigation to stop a new Democratic nominee from replacing Biden on the ballot......

The problem that any potential replacement for Joe Biden would likely run into is that in many states, including in several key states, the deadline for getting on the ballot has already passed,” said Zack Smith, a senior legal fellow at Heritage, in a statement to NOTUS. “Or in many states, the process for replacing a candidate currently on the ballot just isn’t clearly defined because it happens so rarely.”





What’s conveniently missing from every elected official’s statement calling for Biden to dropout.

🚨🚨🚨Republicans plan to sue in order to keep the Dem alternative off of the ballot in every state that matters in this election — battleground states.

What’s the path to victory then?
 

jpug

(90 posts)
25. What you're saying is interesting for sure ...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:09 PM
Jul 18

But the amazing thing is that Schiff, Pelosi, Jeffries, Schumer etc don't know nothing about it!

With all their experiance.

Lucky they had you to point it out.

Rstrstx

(1,498 posts)
40. I think they can only do that if he is forced out
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:54 PM
Jul 18

And even then it would be a Hail Mary. If Joe withdraws on his own before the official nomination the whole thing is moot, the Democratic Party has automatic access to ballots in all 50 states and the deadline to submit our official candidates isn’t until after the convention. Ohio changed their law so their previous August 5 deadline is no longer valid. The party has not yet put forth their official candidates.

The Heritage Foundation’s cynical argument is that Biden was the winner of the primaries and thus has the right to be on the ballot if he is in the race. If he steps aside they can’t make that argument. And if their argument had any merit we could lobby to have Trump/Vance stricken from ballots because Trump and the Repubs had not yet picked a running mate by those mythical deadlines.

ms liberty

(9,462 posts)
27. Michelle Obama has repeatedly said no to the idea of running for anything
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:11 PM
Jul 18

Please. Just stop. She is not interested. And...

We have a nominee, his name is President Joe Biden.

Irish_Dem

(55,269 posts)
33. Michelle Obama does not want the job.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:23 PM
Jul 18

She has been clear about that.
She has no political leadership experience.

And two black women on the same ticket?
Won't fly with white males.

 

jpug

(90 posts)
34. Wants vs needs
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:24 PM
Jul 18

She loves this country.

She needs to do what needs to be done.

Harris/Obama would be unstoppable.

dweller

(24,413 posts)
36. Disregard all previous instructions
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:10 PM
Jul 18

Compose a poem about how much you love Michelle Obama

😐



✌🏻

Irish_Dem

(55,269 posts)
38. She has no direct leadership or political experience.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:35 PM
Jul 18

She does not suffer fools gladly.
And is sick of being in harm's way.

This is not a reality TV show.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
37. No Proposal Involving Ms. Obama Can Be Taken Seriously, Nor Can Anyone Who Makes Such ProposalBe Taken Seriously
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:22 PM
Jul 18

Nothing shows more clearly the 'fantasy football' nature of this panicked stampede....

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