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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:03 PM Nov 2012

Secretary of State Al Gore?

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/14781-focus-secretary-of-state-al-gore

Secretary of State Al Gore?
By Michael Tomasky, The Daily Beast

With opposition to Susan Rice mounting daily, Michael Tomasky proposes six alternative nominees for the
top post at Foggy Bottom. Head of the list? The winner of the 2000 election.

Things maybe aren't looking so great for Susan Rice. The throw-down yesterday by Maine GOP Sen. Susan
Collins, who extended the Republican case against Rice back to the Clinton ears, is one of those
Washington smoke signals, and it's not a positive one. Let me therefore set aside for a day the question
of the merits of Rice and raise another one: Who would make for some credible, interesting,
outside-the-box choices to run Foggy Bottom? There are ample non-Rice options that would provide the
nation with a strong chief diplomat and would piss off the wingnuts in the bargain. Here are half a dozen.
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Secretary of State Al Gore? (Original Post) eridani Nov 2012 OP
It is an idea! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #1
Nope! I voted for him and thought he sucked! coldbeer Nov 2012 #16
He won the election though lunatica Nov 2012 #20
Politics does not piss me off! coldbeer Nov 2012 #31
How did he let you down? hrmjustin Nov 2012 #38
He exists? BlueToTheBone Nov 2012 #40
I believe that President Gore would be a fine choice. nt Zorra Nov 2012 #2
+1000 Walk away Nov 2012 #28
Al Gore!!!!!! Yes. For all the reasons listed in the article quoted. northoftheborder Nov 2012 #3
I'd rather see Gore working on global warming as a cabinet position discopants Nov 2012 #4
All I can see is Powell convincing congress to start the Iraq war. Walk away Nov 2012 #32
Powell stepped up twice to endorse Obama discopants Nov 2012 #50
A that makes it ok to lie us into a war in Iraq? Are you serious? Walk away Nov 2012 #52
Powell has admitted his testimony was wrong in 2004 discopants Nov 2012 #54
Hillary didn't lie to Congress and the American people. Walk away Nov 2012 #56
Maybe he can do more for global warming as Sec of State? nt kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #36
He's certainly an improvement over the ones being mooted about. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #5
At least he is a dem, because most in his list are Reps or DINOS. Mass Nov 2012 #6
Agree. No Republicans pleezz. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #18
Better Gore than Kerry Texas Lawyer Nov 2012 #7
how is Gore better than Kerry? JI7 Nov 2012 #37
We don't risk losing a Senate seat ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #46
if you are worried about losing a Senate seat in Mass , especially to a current loser JI7 Nov 2012 #47
The odds of us losing Kerry's senate seat are greater than the odds of us losing Gore's Texas Lawyer Dec 2012 #66
Gore brings untapped talent to the table (net plus); Kerry robs the Senate of talent (net zero) Texas Lawyer Dec 2012 #65
I floated this idea with friends a couple of months ago Proud Public Servant Nov 2012 #8
Well, kudos to you and a warm handshake of agreement !!! libdem4life Nov 2012 #9
I like this idea.. He was pulled into the Vietnam war when other Senators son's midnight Nov 2012 #10
Al Gore would make for a good EPA head meow2u3 Nov 2012 #11
Exactly!!!! LeftyLucy22 Nov 2012 #15
Sorry Chuuku Davis Nov 2012 #59
What about EPA? NYtoBush-Drop Dead Nov 2012 #12
I would rather he continue to focus his concerns and interests on our planet..... Swede Atlanta Nov 2012 #13
I would support that pick. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #14
No thanks. FreeBC Nov 2012 #17
Our current Secretary of State has Duval Nov 2012 #19
Jimmy Carter adieu Nov 2012 #21
Perfect as head of the EPA. freshwest Nov 2012 #22
YES!!! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #60
How about the BIG DOG uwep Nov 2012 #23
Maybe now that he's got Hillary coming home he might want to spend some Cleita Nov 2012 #25
He's my pick too creeksneakers2 Dec 2012 #61
I'd much rather Al Gore be a lobbyist for the environment. lunatica Nov 2012 #24
I could get down with that. Cleita Nov 2012 #26
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that VP Gore is waaaay to liberal for the president. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #27
how so ? was Gore a liberal VP ? liberal senator ? JI7 Nov 2012 #39
Waaaay more liberal than anyone Pres Obama has appointed. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #45
saying it doesn't make it true, can you give examples of issues JI7 Nov 2012 #49
I will give you a listing of Pres Obama appointees. All of which are waay to the right of VP Gore. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #55
so you have nothing JI7 Nov 2012 #57
Ok Jake, I been leading this discussion. What have you got? Come on tell us what you think. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #62
Gore picked Lieberman to be his VP running mate JI7 Dec 2012 #63
Ouch. I will yeild that point. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #70
Interesting idea, he is NOT a sitting senator, but would he want back in if asked? graham4anything Nov 2012 #29
Jimmy Carter. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #30
No. They wouldn't confirm him. Cleita Nov 2012 #35
Well I can dream, can't I? lol eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #42
Seconded! Fuddnik Nov 2012 #44
susan rice is the one .... fuck those assholes Botany Nov 2012 #33
I agree. I reject the premise support for her is wanning. That's a Republican's wet dream. Fla Dem Dec 2012 #67
You should go over to this thread and tell all the racists and sexists off... hughee99 Dec 2012 #69
Lugar, Huntsman, Colin Powell, but not KErry ? JI7 Nov 2012 #34
Gore or Webb, for me, but definitely NOT Feinstein. nft plethoro Nov 2012 #41
No, no, no! Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #68
I live in California too. And your response is worth consideration. Good plethoro Dec 2012 #71
no question Al Gore would rock FreedomRain Nov 2012 #43
If its NOT Kerry railsback Nov 2012 #48
Gore--Yes! But the 9 others? zentrum Nov 2012 #51
I could live with this. Gore's influence on renewables would be good for both abroad and at home. ancianita Nov 2012 #53
Not just no, Hell no!! Chuuku Davis Nov 2012 #58
Imagine hiring contractors using electric saws, drills and such!!!1!1!! Festivito Dec 2012 #64
Absolutely yes to Al Gore R B Garr Dec 2012 #72
Gore would excel at whatever position he holds and the government/nation/planet Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #73
Glad I could still Rec this and it hasn't been archived. Turborama Dec 2012 #74

coldbeer

(306 posts)
16. Nope! I voted for him and thought he sucked!
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:35 PM
Nov 2012

Al Gore chose Lieberman for VP. I just wished he would ride off in the sunset!

discopants

(535 posts)
4. I'd rather see Gore working on global warming as a cabinet position
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:18 PM
Nov 2012

What if Leon Panetta moved to State Dept., then Powell or Wesley Clark could come in as Sec. of Defense.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
32. All I can see is Powell convincing congress to start the Iraq war.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:31 PM
Nov 2012

He will never live that down. Add to that his part in the cover up of Mai Lai massacre and he simply stinks.

discopants

(535 posts)
50. Powell stepped up twice to endorse Obama
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:00 PM
Nov 2012

and took the heat from his party because he knew it was the right thing to do. He's a competent military leader and could serve Obama well considering the mess there is right now with Patreaus and all of the others that have quit or been fired over the last several years. Powell might ease a lot of the bipartisan crap as the Afghanistan war ends quicker than has previously been scheduled, Powell can make sure a faster withdrawl goes without too many problems.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
52. A that makes it ok to lie us into a war in Iraq? Are you serious?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:12 PM
Nov 2012

You would trust this country with the man who used all of his trust and clout to cause the death of hundreds of thousands of people FOR NO REASON because he endorsed Obama?

Unbelievable!

discopants

(535 posts)
54. Powell has admitted his testimony was wrong in 2004
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:58 PM
Nov 2012

He was fed lies by the CIA and the Bush administration.

Of course his testimony to the UN was completely not true, and he was reporting the the "evidence" supplied by the CIA.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet were liars and warmongers, and a loyal Powell was used and manipulated at their will.

The scale and scope is much different, but isn't this the same that just happened with Rice and her reporting CIA talking points of Benghazi ?
Even Hillary admitted her vote to authorize the war was based on lies. Should she have been disqualified on moral grounds from serving as a great SOS?




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3596033.stm

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
56. Hillary didn't lie to Congress and the American people.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:17 PM
Nov 2012

You really don't seem to get that there is a difference. Let me try one more time to explain before I leave you to adore that lying asshole Powell who, by the way, started his glorious career covering up the Mai Lai massacre.

JI7

(89,283 posts)
37. how is Gore better than Kerry?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:35 PM
Nov 2012

and many of the others he named are not better than Kerry.

Kerry's involvement in foreign policy issues goes back to when he was a kid. he spoke before the committee and has been on theforeign relations committee and current chairman for years.

JI7

(89,283 posts)
47. if you are worried about losing a Senate seat in Mass , especially to a current loser
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:54 PM
Nov 2012

we are in serious trouble as a party.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
9. Well, kudos to you and a warm handshake of agreement !!!
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:40 PM
Nov 2012

I didn't think of it...but wholeheartedly concur.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
10. I like this idea.. He was pulled into the Vietnam war when other Senators son's
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:50 PM
Nov 2012

were hidden from it... He could offer an experience that many of our recent Secretaries of State did not pocess-military... Hopefully that and his understanding of our congress will help get us out of war and keep us at peace....

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
13. I would rather he continue to focus his concerns and interests on our planet.....
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:34 PM
Nov 2012

As much as I think he would make a great SoS, I prefer he stay engaged in climate change issues. That would be one issue he would have in his portfolio, if appointed to the Dept of State but I think he is more effective where he is.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
17. No thanks.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:37 PM
Nov 2012

Personality-wise, Al Gore is like the anti-Grayson. We don't need democrats who can't defend themselves holding high profile positions. He'd be a punching bag and most likely end up being an embarrassment and a thorn in the side of the party.

That said, at least he's not as stiff as Kerry

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
19. Our current Secretary of State has
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:49 PM
Nov 2012

done such a good job, I really hate to see her go. However, perhaps Gore would do a good job. But, will he want it?

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
21. Jimmy Carter
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:56 PM
Nov 2012

would be a good pick, if not for his age.

I would really prefer a woman in the role of SoS. I hate to sound sexist, but a woman can be charming without appearing smarmy and I think that can help diffuse a lot of unnecessary swagger that people who aren't so diplomatic have.

uwep

(108 posts)
23. How about the BIG DOG
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:00 PM
Nov 2012

Everyone around the world loves him. It would really put salt in the
wounds of the republicans. Lemmings would all fall off the cliff.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
25. Maybe now that he's got Hillary coming home he might want to spend some
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012

quality time with her. Also, with his heart problems, I don't thing the stress and constant travel would be good for him.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. I'd much rather Al Gore be a lobbyist for the environment.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:04 PM
Nov 2012

I bet he could persuade Congress to pass some decent legislation protecting the environment and creating incentives for alternate green energy and technology.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
26. I could get down with that.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:23 PM
Nov 2012

However, Al has built a different life since he was in the WH and may not want to get back into the politics and high drama of foreign affairs.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
27. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that VP Gore is waaaay to liberal for the president. nm
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:25 PM
Nov 2012
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
55. I will give you a listing of Pres Obama appointees. All of which are waay to the right of VP Gore.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:13 PM
Nov 2012

Tim Geitner, Lawrence Summers, Ben Bernanke, William M. Daley, Jeff Immelt, Alan Simpson, Dave Cote, Jeb Bush, Robert Gates, Gen Stanley McChrystal, Jacob Lew, Michael Taylor, Rahm Emanuel, Jeremiah Norton, Gen Petraeus,

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
29. Interesting idea, he is NOT a sitting senator, but would he want back in if asked?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

And would he stay on job when Hillary becomes 45?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
35. No. They wouldn't confirm him.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012

He might bring peace and prosperity to the world and what would the war and oil industries do with that?

Fla Dem

(23,840 posts)
67. I agree. I reject the premise support for her is wanning. That's a Republican's wet dream.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 12:21 PM
Dec 2012

The only reasons the angry white men are creating this phony outrage is
1.) she is a woman and a minority.
2.) They are hoping for a Kerry appointment so they can have a chance of getting Scott Brown back.

I have heard f NO Democrat who has suggested Susan Rice would not be a good candidates of SoS.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
69. You should go over to this thread and tell all the racists and sexists off...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 12:31 PM
Dec 2012

Susan Rice Vocally Supported the Iraq War, and Every Mid-East War Since
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021895778

JI7

(89,283 posts)
34. Lugar, Huntsman, Colin Powell, but not KErry ?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:31 PM
Nov 2012

and he mentions Webb who is conservative. and Gore might as well run for PResident again if he is going to get back into public office.

FreedomRain

(413 posts)
43. no question Al Gore would rock
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:44 PM
Nov 2012

any cabinet position there is.

And some of those Repubs are intriguing, but I'm pretty sure there are a few dozen Democrats qualified for this post, so no, unless maybe its part of some deal (like fast tracking all the Judicial appointments for example)

FTFA:

"I'm sure there are others (but no, not Bill Clinton-an ex-president holding a lower office is just a little too odd)"


John Quincy Adams would like a word...

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
51. Gore--Yes! But the 9 others?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:05 PM
Nov 2012

Colin Powell of Bush water carrying fame? Lugar--the war monger? Feinstein, the wife of a major Iraq contractor and a corporatist supreme? This is a very disheartening list.

Lists like this make me feel how broken America is underneath all the shiny pageant.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
64. Imagine hiring contractors using electric saws, drills and such!!!1!1!!
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:46 AM
Dec 2012

If you want environmentally cleaner methods of creating electricity then you should not use electricity -- at all -- especially when redoing your own house. Right?

R B Garr

(17,004 posts)
72. Absolutely yes to Al Gore
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:48 PM
Dec 2012

In fact, I still have fantasies that he might make another Presidential run, and this would be a way to put him back in the political spotlight.

Uncle Joe

(58,505 posts)
73. Gore would excel at whatever position he holds and the government/nation/planet
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:11 PM
Dec 2012

would be all the better for it.

Gore is immensely qualified in a number of sciences; information technology, global warming climate change, defense, finance all critical in the coming decades and centuries.

Having said that I don't believe Obama will appoint him and I'm not sure that Al would take the job.

Thanks for the thread, eridani.

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