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senseandsensibility

(20,141 posts)
Tue May 28, 2024, 03:10 PM May 2024

This scheme cooked up by these men...could very well be what got Pres. Trump

elected. Steinglass just went there. Really breaking it down for the jury so that they can see the election interference component. I am glad he went there, because this is the bottom line and what raises it to a felony.

I also like his line about if you want to know what's going on in the gutter, you have to talk to the rats. Brilliant.

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This scheme cooked up by these men...could very well be what got Pres. Trump (Original Post) senseandsensibility May 2024 OP
Oh jeez,.. magicarpet May 2024 #1
Can't wait to see what he posts this evening. Irish_Dem May 2024 #3
Shitler will be fuming, farting, and flame throwing,... magicarpet May 2024 #5
We must be careful about riding him constantly DENVERPOPS May 2024 #19
He has blood? LiberalFighter May 2024 #44
OK, his 'venom' pressure probably more accurate? n/t Attilatheblond May 2024 #45
Trump cheated to get into the White House. It was not an honest win. Irish_Dem May 2024 #2
Yup senseandsensibility May 2024 #4
You win the daily door prize. magicarpet May 2024 #6
Don't even like the name brand senseandsensibility May 2024 #8
Yum and all natural. multigraincracker May 2024 #10
Mostly air - puffs... magicarpet May 2024 #14
Your pic Celerity May 2024 #11
Oh,.. thank you. magicarpet May 2024 #15
Truth Social?? Marcuse May 2024 #41
Of course he cheated! 😁 ShazzieB May 2024 #24
What an F'd-up Way to Pretend to Have a Life! The Roux Comes First May 2024 #33
Pretty much! ShazzieB May 2024 #34
Yes this is true for sociopaths and narcissists. Irish_Dem May 2024 #38
He is PROUD of his cheating. He thinks he is clever and smart to cheat. Irish_Dem May 2024 #37
Eisenhower was the last honest Republican president. OMGWTF May 2024 #7
Yes this is very true. Irish_Dem May 2024 #9
Was Ike actually a Republican ? Or just a right leaning Democrat ? Traurigkeit May 2024 #12
While Eisenhower would be considered to be on the left markodochartaigh May 2024 #23
I believe both parties competed soldierant May 2024 #31
And he was pretty much a do-nothing prez. ananda May 2024 #16
Don't forget the InternetvHighway System! ShazzieB May 2024 #26
Then Elvis and Rock and Roll bobnicewander May 2024 #17
"A little less talk and a lot more action" is what Elvis was looking for. If I recall correctly. SupportSanity May 2024 #21
"Love Me Tender" was a weak introduction to Elvis. Black & White and low keyed. I was expecting something more 3Hotdogs May 2024 #27
This whole mess was caused by Elvis? Permanut May 2024 #28
Lincoln. N/T usonian May 2024 #36
The hush money was just one of the ways Trump cheated to win. summer_in_TX May 2024 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem May 2024 #39
oh my Roc2020 May 2024 #13
The best definition of Pendejo45's team is Keystone Crooks. n/t aggiesal May 2024 #18
What did he say exactly that has everyone jumping for joy? N/T SleeplessinSoCal May 2024 #20
The title of my post is a rough quote of his comment. senseandsensibility May 2024 #22
Thanks. SleeplessinSoCal May 2024 #30
Considering the period the hush money covered, it is going to look bad to the jury Warpy May 2024 #25
After the Access Hollywood tape, though, the RNC was apparently discussing replacing him as candidate intrepidity May 2024 #32
That's true - and even Pence was expressing reservations (nt) Pluvious May 2024 #46
And Comey's last minute investigation of Hillary again. brush May 2024 #29
Losing the popular vote isn't winning elections. czarjak May 2024 #40
Rest assured the Biden-Harris campaign will be saying "He CHEATED in 2016" ProudMNDemocrat May 2024 #42
My favorite line from Steinglass . . . . moreland01 May 2024 #43
That is a good line! senseandsensibility May 2024 #47
For those keeping score at home SomedayKindaLove May 2024 #48

magicarpet

(16,082 posts)
5. Shitler will be fuming, farting, and flame throwing,...
Tue May 28, 2024, 03:41 PM
May 2024

..... incoherently more than usual because the closing arguments trashed him out hard.

His fear of a guilty verdict must be triggering his incontinence really bad. Every step he takes he probably deposits a little surprise in his adult diapers. Unable to hold it back until he locates a restroom. Just imagine the stench being within his proximity.

But 40% of America thinks this man is of presidential timber ? Can you believe it ?

DENVERPOPS

(9,814 posts)
19. We must be careful about riding him constantly
Tue May 28, 2024, 05:14 PM
May 2024

Him getting upset continually could cause his blood pressure to climb........

magicarpet

(16,082 posts)
14. Mostly air - puffs...
Tue May 28, 2024, 04:27 PM
May 2024

But boy ain't it pricey.

Nutrition(?) does not come cheap.

○■○□○■○■

Just found the Cheeto Make up Influencer.

This must be where trDUMP gets his Orange pan cake make up.

?si=xr7d76XzkeFdfIV2

magicarpet

(16,082 posts)
15. Oh,.. thank you.
Tue May 28, 2024, 04:31 PM
May 2024

Yes,.. my link was a monster link. It went on and on for almost five pages until it finally hit the end of my Cheeto link.

ShazzieB

(18,372 posts)
24. Of course he cheated! 😁
Tue May 28, 2024, 06:06 PM
May 2024

He always cheats, and he assumes everyone else cheats. To him, it's not even in question; that's just the way things are done.

And since (he believes) everyone else is always cheating, there's no reason for him not to cheat, too!

The Roux Comes First

(1,512 posts)
33. What an F'd-up Way to Pretend to Have a Life!
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:18 PM
May 2024

It seems like it would make it almost impossible to have any sort of normal relationships or intimacy.

And what about Christmas??!

ShazzieB

(18,372 posts)
34. Pretty much!
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:38 PM
May 2024

It's my understanding that all his relationships are purely transactional, and that his extended family is like that as well. He doesn't believe in doing something for another person unless he can see some benefit for himself. At least that's what I've read, in multiple sources.

It does sound like a very cold and shallow way to live.

Irish_Dem

(55,825 posts)
38. Yes this is true for sociopaths and narcissists.
Wed May 29, 2024, 06:21 AM
May 2024

Relationships are entirely transactional.
There are no emotions, no love.

Some sort of attachment perhaps.
But it is not healthy love.

We can see that Trump's happiness comes from getting attention and committing crimes.
His drug use and sexual promiscuity.
His ability to lie, cheat, steal, bilk and fool others.

Irish_Dem

(55,825 posts)
37. He is PROUD of his cheating. He thinks he is clever and smart to cheat.
Wed May 29, 2024, 06:17 AM
May 2024

He loves putting one over on others. Like with his sexual assaults.
And all the tax cheating. All of his other crimes.

It gives him a good feeling to bilk others. Hurt them.
Make money off of them.

Trump sees those who follow the laws and rules as suckers and losers.

He is so angry when he gets called out or caught. People just don't
seem to appreciate his criminal genius. What a great "businessman" he is.
This is what he thinks.

markodochartaigh

(1,877 posts)
23. While Eisenhower would be considered to be on the left
Tue May 28, 2024, 06:04 PM
May 2024

of the Democratic party today, in those days following FDR, he tried to be in the middle between Republicans and Democrats. Certainly movement on social issues has moved both the Democratic party and the 20% of Republicans who are corporate Republicans to the left, but on the economic issues our oiligarchs care about the Democratic and Republican parties have moved to the right of Eisenhower's "middle way".

"In Eisenhower Republicanism: Pursuing the Middle Way, Steven Wagner argued that the key to understanding how Eisenhower distinguished his policies from those of liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans was his philosophy of the 'middle way'."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/9781119027737.ch8

soldierant

(7,744 posts)
31. I believe both parties competed
Tue May 28, 2024, 08:20 PM
May 2024

for wwwho would get to nominate him

Those were very different times from today.

bobnicewander

(891 posts)
17. Then Elvis and Rock and Roll
Tue May 28, 2024, 04:49 PM
May 2024

caused the Republicans to go bad.

1956 general election was held on November 6.

Presley's first movie was released on November 15 1956.
S.E.X., drugs and rock and roll.

so there!!!

3Hotdogs

(13,275 posts)
27. "Love Me Tender" was a weak introduction to Elvis. Black & White and low keyed. I was expecting something more
Tue May 28, 2024, 06:40 PM
May 2024

dynamic from my $.50.

What came after, was even worse.

summer_in_TX

(3,102 posts)
35. The hush money was just one of the ways Trump cheated to win.
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:58 PM
May 2024

He got Wikileaks (in collusion with Russia) to release emails stolen from the Clinton campaign, the very afternoon of the day that the Access Hollywood tape of Trump's vulgar "grab them by the pussy" remarks hit the news?

I have no doubt that the pressure on James Comey to release the statement about the 30,000 "additional" emails mere days before the campaign was orchestrated by Rudy Giuliani through his ties with the SDNY too.

Response to summer_in_TX (Reply #35)

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,585 posts)
30. Thanks.
Tue May 28, 2024, 07:32 PM
May 2024

I've been picking up coverage here and there, but nothing verbatim.

Hammering the cheating on the American voter is the real crime. And if he gets away with it, the adage "Cheaters never prosper" needs some serious redefining.

Warpy

(113,032 posts)
25. Considering the period the hush money covered, it is going to look bad to the jury
Tue May 28, 2024, 06:11 PM
May 2024

but I still say he could have skipped the whole thing, let her blab and let Pecker publish the article. The few who read it and believed it would have shrugged it off as news 10 years earlier, but little point now.

Republicans rationalize ordinary faithlessness as "Oh, that was 10 years ago/last month/an hour ago! Jesus has shown him'/her the error of his/her ways now," as they continue to vote GOP because they're SUCH good Christians.

I doubt the story would have cost him a single vote.

However, his actions, in concert with Daniels, Pecker, and Cohen, were all aimed at making sure he didn't lose a single vote. And that's what should put him under house arrest for a long time,

intrepidity

(7,797 posts)
32. After the Access Hollywood tape, though, the RNC was apparently discussing replacing him as candidate
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:01 PM
May 2024

It's easy to forget that things then were not as batshit crazy as they are now.

ProudMNDemocrat

(18,779 posts)
42. Rest assured the Biden-Harris campaign will be saying "He CHEATED in 2016"
Wed May 29, 2024, 08:58 AM
May 2024

and will do so again.

Every Democrat running for office will be tying every Republican/MAGAt running to that as well.

Makes me wonder when a conviction comes down, how exciting will the RNC be knowing that they are nominating a CRIMINAL? "GIVE US BARABAS!" the Convention delegates will say. Things did not work out so well for Barabas in the end.

moreland01

(823 posts)
43. My favorite line from Steinglass . . . .
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:35 AM
May 2024

“The defendant didn’t actually pay a lawyer. He paid a pornstar. By funneling money through a lawyer.”

SomedayKindaLove

(995 posts)
48. For those keeping score at home
Wed May 29, 2024, 02:40 PM
May 2024

2016 - successfully stole the election
2020 - unsuccessfully tried to steal the election

Trump 1-1 stealing elections heading into 2024.

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