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senseandsensibility

(18,358 posts)
Tue May 28, 2024, 03:10 PM May 28

This scheme cooked up by these men...could very well be what got Pres. Trump

elected. Steinglass just went there. Really breaking it down for the jury so that they can see the election interference component. I am glad he went there, because this is the bottom line and what raises it to a felony.

I also like his line about if you want to know what's going on in the gutter, you have to talk to the rats. Brilliant.

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This scheme cooked up by these men...could very well be what got Pres. Trump (Original Post) senseandsensibility May 28 OP
Oh jeez,.. magicarpet May 28 #1
Can't wait to see what he posts this evening. Irish_Dem May 28 #3
Shitler will be fuming, farting, and flame throwing,... magicarpet May 28 #5
We must be careful about riding him constantly DENVERPOPS May 28 #19
He has blood? LiberalFighter May 29 #44
OK, his 'venom' pressure probably more accurate? n/t Attilatheblond May 29 #45
Trump cheated to get into the White House. It was not an honest win. Irish_Dem May 28 #2
Yup senseandsensibility May 28 #4
You win the daily door prize. magicarpet May 28 #6
Don't even like the name brand senseandsensibility May 28 #8
Yum and all natural. multigraincracker May 28 #10
Mostly air - puffs... magicarpet May 28 #14
Your pic Celerity May 28 #11
Oh,.. thank you. magicarpet May 28 #15
Truth Social?? Marcuse May 29 #41
Of course he cheated! 😁 ShazzieB May 28 #24
What an F'd-up Way to Pretend to Have a Life! The Roux Comes First May 28 #33
Pretty much! ShazzieB May 28 #34
Yes this is true for sociopaths and narcissists. Irish_Dem May 29 #38
He is PROUD of his cheating. He thinks he is clever and smart to cheat. Irish_Dem May 29 #37
Eisenhower was the last honest Republican president. OMGWTF May 28 #7
Yes this is very true. Irish_Dem May 28 #9
Was Ike actually a Republican ? Or just a right leaning Democrat ? Traurigkeit May 28 #12
While Eisenhower would be considered to be on the left markodochartaigh May 28 #23
I believe both parties competed soldierant May 28 #31
And he was pretty much a do-nothing prez. ananda May 28 #16
Don't forget the InternetvHighway System! ShazzieB May 28 #26
Then Elvis and Rock and Roll bobnicewander May 28 #17
"A little less talk and a lot more action" is what Elvis was looking for. If I recall correctly. SupportSanity May 28 #21
"Love Me Tender" was a weak introduction to Elvis. Black & White and low keyed. I was expecting something more 3Hotdogs May 28 #27
This whole mess was caused by Elvis? Permanut May 28 #28
Lincoln. N/T usonian May 29 #36
The hush money was just one of the ways Trump cheated to win. summer_in_TX May 28 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem May 29 #39
oh my Roc2020 May 28 #13
The best definition of Pendejo45's team is Keystone Crooks. n/t aggiesal May 28 #18
What did he say exactly that has everyone jumping for joy? N/T SleeplessinSoCal May 28 #20
The title of my post is a rough quote of his comment. senseandsensibility May 28 #22
Thanks. SleeplessinSoCal May 28 #30
Considering the period the hush money covered, it is going to look bad to the jury Warpy May 28 #25
After the Access Hollywood tape, though, the RNC was apparently discussing replacing him as candidate intrepidity May 28 #32
That's true - and even Pence was expressing reservations (nt) Pluvious May 29 #46
And Comey's last minute investigation of Hillary again. brush May 28 #29
Losing the popular vote isn't winning elections. czarjak May 29 #40
Rest assured the Biden-Harris campaign will be saying "He CHEATED in 2016" ProudMNDemocrat May 29 #42
My favorite line from Steinglass . . . . moreland01 May 29 #43
That is a good line! senseandsensibility May 29 #47
For those keeping score at home SomedayKindaLove May 29 #48

magicarpet

(14,992 posts)
5. Shitler will be fuming, farting, and flame throwing,...
Tue May 28, 2024, 03:41 PM
May 28

..... incoherently more than usual because the closing arguments trashed him out hard.

His fear of a guilty verdict must be triggering his incontinence really bad. Every step he takes he probably deposits a little surprise in his adult diapers. Unable to hold it back until he locates a restroom. Just imagine the stench being within his proximity.

But 40% of America thinks this man is of presidential timber ? Can you believe it ?

DENVERPOPS

(9,273 posts)
19. We must be careful about riding him constantly
Tue May 28, 2024, 05:14 PM
May 28

Him getting upset continually could cause his blood pressure to climb........

magicarpet

(14,992 posts)
14. Mostly air - puffs...
Tue May 28, 2024, 04:27 PM
May 28

But boy ain't it pricey.

Nutrition(?) does not come cheap.

○■○□○■○■

Just found the Cheeto Make up Influencer.

This must be where trDUMP gets his Orange pan cake make up.

?si=xr7d76XzkeFdfIV2

magicarpet

(14,992 posts)
15. Oh,.. thank you.
Tue May 28, 2024, 04:31 PM
May 28

Yes,.. my link was a monster link. It went on and on for almost five pages until it finally hit the end of my Cheeto link.

ShazzieB

(17,227 posts)
24. Of course he cheated! 😁
Tue May 28, 2024, 06:06 PM
May 28

He always cheats, and he assumes everyone else cheats. To him, it's not even in question; that's just the way things are done.

And since (he believes) everyone else is always cheating, there's no reason for him not to cheat, too!

The Roux Comes First

(1,347 posts)
33. What an F'd-up Way to Pretend to Have a Life!
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:18 PM
May 28

It seems like it would make it almost impossible to have any sort of normal relationships or intimacy.

And what about Christmas??!

ShazzieB

(17,227 posts)
34. Pretty much!
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:38 PM
May 28

It's my understanding that all his relationships are purely transactional, and that his extended family is like that as well. He doesn't believe in doing something for another person unless he can see some benefit for himself. At least that's what I've read, in multiple sources.

It does sound like a very cold and shallow way to live.

Irish_Dem

(52,540 posts)
38. Yes this is true for sociopaths and narcissists.
Wed May 29, 2024, 06:21 AM
May 29

Relationships are entirely transactional.
There are no emotions, no love.

Some sort of attachment perhaps.
But it is not healthy love.

We can see that Trump's happiness comes from getting attention and committing crimes.
His drug use and sexual promiscuity.
His ability to lie, cheat, steal, bilk and fool others.

Irish_Dem

(52,540 posts)
37. He is PROUD of his cheating. He thinks he is clever and smart to cheat.
Wed May 29, 2024, 06:17 AM
May 29

He loves putting one over on others. Like with his sexual assaults.
And all the tax cheating. All of his other crimes.

It gives him a good feeling to bilk others. Hurt them.
Make money off of them.

Trump sees those who follow the laws and rules as suckers and losers.

He is so angry when he gets called out or caught. People just don't
seem to appreciate his criminal genius. What a great "businessman" he is.
This is what he thinks.

markodochartaigh

(1,449 posts)
23. While Eisenhower would be considered to be on the left
Tue May 28, 2024, 06:04 PM
May 28

of the Democratic party today, in those days following FDR, he tried to be in the middle between Republicans and Democrats. Certainly movement on social issues has moved both the Democratic party and the 20% of Republicans who are corporate Republicans to the left, but on the economic issues our oiligarchs care about the Democratic and Republican parties have moved to the right of Eisenhower's "middle way".

"In Eisenhower Republicanism: Pursuing the Middle Way, Steven Wagner argued that the key to understanding how Eisenhower distinguished his policies from those of liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans was his philosophy of the 'middle way'."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/9781119027737.ch8

soldierant

(7,382 posts)
31. I believe both parties competed
Tue May 28, 2024, 08:20 PM
May 28

for wwwho would get to nominate him

Those were very different times from today.

bobnicewander

(878 posts)
17. Then Elvis and Rock and Roll
Tue May 28, 2024, 04:49 PM
May 28

caused the Republicans to go bad.

1956 general election was held on November 6.

Presley's first movie was released on November 15 1956.
S.E.X., drugs and rock and roll.

so there!!!

3Hotdogs

(12,801 posts)
27. "Love Me Tender" was a weak introduction to Elvis. Black & White and low keyed. I was expecting something more
Tue May 28, 2024, 06:40 PM
May 28

dynamic from my $.50.

What came after, was even worse.

summer_in_TX

(2,861 posts)
35. The hush money was just one of the ways Trump cheated to win.
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:58 PM
May 28

He got Wikileaks (in collusion with Russia) to release emails stolen from the Clinton campaign, the very afternoon of the day that the Access Hollywood tape of Trump's vulgar "grab them by the pussy" remarks hit the news?

I have no doubt that the pressure on James Comey to release the statement about the 30,000 "additional" emails mere days before the campaign was orchestrated by Rudy Giuliani through his ties with the SDNY too.

Response to summer_in_TX (Reply #35)

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,375 posts)
30. Thanks.
Tue May 28, 2024, 07:32 PM
May 28

I've been picking up coverage here and there, but nothing verbatim.

Hammering the cheating on the American voter is the real crime. And if he gets away with it, the adage "Cheaters never prosper" needs some serious redefining.

Warpy

(112,166 posts)
25. Considering the period the hush money covered, it is going to look bad to the jury
Tue May 28, 2024, 06:11 PM
May 28

but I still say he could have skipped the whole thing, let her blab and let Pecker publish the article. The few who read it and believed it would have shrugged it off as news 10 years earlier, but little point now.

Republicans rationalize ordinary faithlessness as "Oh, that was 10 years ago/last month/an hour ago! Jesus has shown him'/her the error of his/her ways now," as they continue to vote GOP because they're SUCH good Christians.

I doubt the story would have cost him a single vote.

However, his actions, in concert with Daniels, Pecker, and Cohen, were all aimed at making sure he didn't lose a single vote. And that's what should put him under house arrest for a long time,

intrepidity

(7,602 posts)
32. After the Access Hollywood tape, though, the RNC was apparently discussing replacing him as candidate
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:01 PM
May 28

It's easy to forget that things then were not as batshit crazy as they are now.

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,366 posts)
42. Rest assured the Biden-Harris campaign will be saying "He CHEATED in 2016"
Wed May 29, 2024, 08:58 AM
May 29

and will do so again.

Every Democrat running for office will be tying every Republican/MAGAt running to that as well.

Makes me wonder when a conviction comes down, how exciting will the RNC be knowing that they are nominating a CRIMINAL? "GIVE US BARABAS!" the Convention delegates will say. Things did not work out so well for Barabas in the end.

moreland01

(764 posts)
43. My favorite line from Steinglass . . . .
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:35 AM
May 29

“The defendant didn’t actually pay a lawyer. He paid a pornstar. By funneling money through a lawyer.”

SomedayKindaLove

(659 posts)
48. For those keeping score at home
Wed May 29, 2024, 02:40 PM
May 29

2016 - successfully stole the election
2020 - unsuccessfully tried to steal the election

Trump 1-1 stealing elections heading into 2024.

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