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senseandsensibility

(18,375 posts)
Sat May 25, 2024, 02:40 PM May 25

So well deserved! CNN's primetime ratings hit 30 year low!

This according to Ron Filipkowski on twitter, who also points out that one of the most common refrains on RW social media is "even CNN agrees with us!"

So this should put to bed the idea I hear expressed here and elsewhere that CNN is leaning right for ratings. Their ratings began tanking after they did their pep rally with a stacked audience for cheato and continue to sink. They've had time to adjust and they obviously aren't interested.
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So well deserved! CNN's primetime ratings hit 30 year low! (Original Post) senseandsensibility May 25 OP
They are clearly in search of a compromise that pleases no one. unblock May 25 #1
Unsurprised. I thought when they were looking to make a change. bullimiami May 25 #2
Very good suggestions senseandsensibility May 25 #4
I think a lot of people would. Sick of bullshit and tired of being treated like morons. bullimiami May 25 #9
Well said. I share your opinion Raven123 May 25 #16
CNN used to be 24-hour news wallpaper for me Shermann May 25 #3
I used to like CNN, but gosh, over the last 5 or so years, they have gone downhill faster than my sled. No more. SWBTATTReg May 25 #6
Just curious senseandsensibility May 25 #7
Acosta, SWBTATTReg May 25 #10
Amanpour is especially fantastic. orange jar May 25 #12
I love her and her interviews too as well. SWBTATTReg May 25 #15
Erin Burnette is respectable, but is more of a straight newsperson than an editorialist Shermann May 25 #32
No BBC News on your flex pack? mwooldri May 25 #26
For those who want the details... WarGamer May 25 #5
That many 25-54 yr olds are watching Fox? orange jar May 25 #8
What stands out from your post senseandsensibility May 25 #11
good catch... and that's not a bad thing. WarGamer May 25 #14
I honestly don't know how they're in business Sympthsical May 25 #30
another 4 years of drumpf having everyone run to cable news to see what horrors he has wrought today Takket May 25 #13
While I'm sure that if cheato wins (crossing myself and knocking on wood) senseandsensibility May 25 #17
Though I don't get US TV here, I suspect the same thing. DFW May 25 #19
All the networks deserve to have their lowest ratings ever. Boomerproud May 25 #18
I haven't watched CNN in years because they got rid of hood people. Lonestarblue May 25 #20
I loved CNN when Ted Turner owned it. It hasn't been Meadowoak May 25 #21
I agree Haggard Celine May 25 #34
So will they "double down" with more conservative BS??!! Hummmmm PortTack May 25 #22
Left them in 2015. Joinfortmill May 25 #23
Deleted Joinfortmill May 25 #24
They don't like that it will be easy to beat Trump again. pwb May 25 #25
"CNN International is way better than the CNN we get domestically." sop May 25 #27
CNN International is available in the US. OneBlueDotS-Carolina May 25 #31
Censoring references to the "Big Lie" and going full-MAGA might have something to do with it. Kid Berwyn May 25 #28
I cut the cord two years ago. lpbk2713 May 25 #29
I have been watching less of MSNBC and CNN, I am just sick of hearing doc03 May 25 #33
When you try and play both ends against the middle, you lose both as well as their respect. elocs May 25 #35

bullimiami

(13,288 posts)
2. Unsurprised. I thought when they were looking to make a change.
Sat May 25, 2024, 02:57 PM
May 25

They should have turned back toward hard news.
Start each hour with a news summary and list of in depth stories upcoming that hour.

Set aside time slots for opinion shows or news specials.

I think it would have stopped the bleeding and as people came to trust them again would increase and stabilize a reliable viewership.

But nope. They blew it.

Raven123

(5,448 posts)
16. Well said. I share your opinion
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:31 PM
May 25

I suspect many of us actually want a NEWS program, and not politics 24x7. Other than polls, interviews with potential voters and opinionators, CNN offers little else.

Shermann

(7,766 posts)
3. CNN used to be 24-hour news wallpaper for me
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:02 PM
May 25

If I didn't feel like listening to music, I'd sometimes leave CNN on while piddling around with stuff around the house. But they ramped up the prescription drug commercials to where they got to be noise pollution.

The dancing Jardiance lady pushed it over the edge.

*CLICK*

The bad thing is that CNN is the only 24-hour news program on the Dish Network Flex Pack. Since I downgraded to that I lost MSNBC and even FXN. I have the local channels OTA so I mostly stick to the 1 hour of evening news.

SWBTATTReg

(22,723 posts)
6. I used to like CNN, but gosh, over the last 5 or so years, they have gone downhill faster than my sled. No more.
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:06 PM
May 25

Unfortunately, some of the announcers I still like, perhaps they'll get a decent offer to move elsewhere.

SWBTATTReg

(22,723 posts)
10. Acosta,
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:21 PM
May 25

Christiane Amanpour, Anderson C., Jake Tapper (still determining, he has seemed to changed from what he used to be like). And plus there are a couple of more of them I can't recall at the moment.

orange jar

(507 posts)
12. Amanpour is especially fantastic.
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:29 PM
May 25

She deserves so much better than a Saturday block on CNN. News networks nowadays prefer the glitzy anchors over real, competent and actually professional journalists.

Shermann

(7,766 posts)
32. Erin Burnette is respectable, but is more of a straight newsperson than an editorialist
Sat May 25, 2024, 06:07 PM
May 25

She happens to be on when I sometimes tune in, and I remember her from "Street Signs" on CNBC.

Hell, I even liked Maria Bartiromo when she was on CNBC. I was more into money than politics back then. Who am I kidding, I still am.

mwooldri

(10,332 posts)
26. No BBC News on your flex pack?
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:19 PM
May 25

Programming is of course more of a world aspect, maybe focusing on the UK a bit more than I'd like. But if you want a relatively Trump free news zone....

WarGamer

(13,312 posts)
5. For those who want the details...
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:05 PM
May 25
CNN suffered its worst ratings among primetime viewers in the most coveted demographic by advertisers — dealing a gut punch to embattled new boss Mark Thompson.

The cable channel, which touts itself as “the most trusted name in news,” drew just 83,000 viewers aged 25 to 54 during the week of May 13-19 from 8 to 11 p.m. — its lowest-rated week since 1991, according to Nielsen.

By contrast, Fox News garnered more than the twice the audience in the key demo, with 186,000 viewers, according to Nielsen. Left-leaning MSNBC was a distant second with 111,000, the data showed.

orange jar

(507 posts)
8. That many 25-54 yr olds are watching Fox?
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:17 PM
May 25

Tf? Fox is boring as hell since Tucker left. He's undeniably a shitty person, but effective at being somewhat entertaining unlike the other hosts. My running theory is that liberals/Dems tend to watch less cable news & opinion shows because they're less likely to need their views reinforced by entertainers and show boaters. Not that we're 100% immune to it, but still.

senseandsensibility

(18,375 posts)
11. What stands out from your post
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:28 PM
May 25

is that slightly more key demographic voters watched either CNN or MSNBC than Faux. So slighty more than half are watching either moderate or progressive programming.

Sympthsical

(9,504 posts)
30. I honestly don't know how they're in business
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:44 PM
May 25

I know and enjoy YouTube channels by small content creators with better numbers.

I guess pharmaceutical and reverse mortgage ads are a lucrative business.

It'll be interesting to see what these channels look like in 15 or so years. Their live audiences are literally dying off.

Takket

(22,143 posts)
13. another 4 years of drumpf having everyone run to cable news to see what horrors he has wrought today
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:29 PM
May 25

will help fix that..........

senseandsensibility

(18,375 posts)
17. While I'm sure that if cheato wins (crossing myself and knocking on wood)
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:34 PM
May 25

CNN's ratings would improve, I don't think they are playing the long game.

DFW

(55,265 posts)
19. Though I don't get US TV here, I suspect the same thing.
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:41 PM
May 25

Their sentiments tend to follow "the answer" and "the wind" in Bob Dylan's two most well-known songs.

Lonestarblue

(10,732 posts)
20. I haven't watched CNN in years because they got rid of hood people.
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:45 PM
May 25

I liked Soledad O’Brian’s morning show and others that took facts seriously.

Haggard Celine

(16,925 posts)
34. I agree
Sat May 25, 2024, 07:17 PM
May 25

Ted Turner wouldn't have put up with the state of that network today, I don't think. Wish he hadn't retired from public life.

pwb

(11,826 posts)
25. They don't like that it will be easy to beat Trump again.
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:17 PM
May 25

No need to spend all that election ad money on shit cable. That is what they're all squirming for, a smaller piece of the pie because they can't make the race. IMO.

sop

(10,975 posts)
27. "CNN International is way better than the CNN we get domestically."
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:33 PM
May 25

"The obvious difference is that there is a lot more coverage of the rest of the world, including extensive coverage of the Middle East, Asia and Africa. There is also extensive coverage of world financial markets."

"The biggest quality difference in my mind is that most of CNN International consists of actual reporting, whereas much of CNN domestic is shouting heads. Especially during the afternoon/evening hours, much of what you see hear is a bunch of people shouting at each other with little enlightenment. As a result, CNN International spends a lot more time on reporting actual news as opposed to speculation in fake 'strategy sessions' on what might happen in elections 4 years from now."

"CNN International also seems to have a lot less celebrity coverage."

"It's too bad that CNN International isn't available in the U.S. CNN clearly knows how to do quality journalism -- we just don't have access to it." - Rakesh Agrawal

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,397 posts)
31. CNN International is available in the US.
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:45 PM
May 25

So much better than the other crap cable news. Available on Direct TV stream.

CBC (Canada), BBC (UK), France 24 & others are available as streaming apps or youtube.

Kid Berwyn

(16,139 posts)
28. Censoring references to the "Big Lie" and going full-MAGA might have something to do with it.
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:38 PM
May 25

Like others, I might've stayed a frequent viewer, had CNN stayed -- what's the expression, misappropriated by Roger Ailes and Rupert the Alien? -- Fair and Balanced."

doc03

(35,861 posts)
33. I have been watching less of MSNBC and CNN, I am just sick of hearing
Sat May 25, 2024, 06:56 PM
May 25

about Trump and I suppose there are a lot more like me. Every day it's the same bs, Trump violated his gag order
and we all know they aren't going to do anything about it. Everyone speculating on the results of the trial, why listen
it is up to the jury. We all know he won't go on trial for his other crimes until the election is over and if he wins nothing will happen/

elocs

(22,826 posts)
35. When you try and play both ends against the middle, you lose both as well as their respect.
Sat May 25, 2024, 07:26 PM
May 25

Hate FOX how you will but at least you know where they are coming from. They may brag that even CNN agrees with them them, but they don't respect CNN.

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