59% of Americans think that Biden controls inflation and prices

[senseandsensibility]

Just saw on Joy Reid. No wonder Joe's poll numbers on the economy are so bad. We are dealing with extreme ignorance and the corporate media's propaganda is not helping.

Joy and Stephanie R. are telling the truth about corporate greed and how that is what is causing inflation, NOT President Biden.

[msongs]

1. in office presidents are typically held responsible for this sort of thing nt

[ZZenith]

2. And is that justified?

[msongs]

3. its the way it is justified or not nt

[ZZenith]

14. Why are you trying to normalize it further?

[FBaggins]

27. Recognizing reality is "justifying" it now? nt

[ZZenith]

30. Where did I use the word "justifying?"

[FBaggins]

35. In post #2?

[ZZenith]

38. Correct.

Sort of.

I asked, “Is that justified?”

And did they answer my question?

[FBaggins]

39. It was your question that was the attempt at spin

You were (correctly) told that's how things are. It doesn't matter whether or not people are justified in believing it... it is the norm, so nobody is "normalizing" it by recognizing the simple truth.

What is more - there is no spinning away from it. When inflation rates were falling, the administration was quick and consistent in claiming that it was because of their actions and the IRA. Every administration wants to take credit for anything good in the economy and blame the last guy for anything bad (both whether they're justified or not). But there are enough "transitory" quotes from the first year of the administration to burn any idea of diverting blame.

The only viable strategy (which happens to have the advantage of being true) is to point out that we're still the better party to manage the economy for the next four years.

[ZZenith]

43. Sighing and shrugging and saying, "That's just the way it is,"

is the very definition of normalizing it.

[Bob0264]

6. Not the point. The point is that we have WAY too many people who are under-educated on economics and politics.

WAY too many people don't know diddly squat about economics and politics. Pathetic!

[MichMan]

13. If Trump was president, I have little doubt that he would be blamed for it by people here

Just how it is

[RandomNumbers]

37. True, but most of us would point to specific actions that Trump DID control

such as raising tariffs and harassing immigrants who harvest a lot of our food. (to name just a couple off the top of my head)

[keep_left]

4. Yep, they believe that we live in a USSR-style command economy...

...and President Biden has a big red button on his desk that says "Make Economy Gooder". And for some reason, Biden simply refuses to push that button.

This is yet another example why we need a serious overhaul of the way that civics is taught in the schools.

[Tickle]

5. "gooder"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. NT

[Bob0264]

7. Some schools teach it well. Others not so much. Even if taught, many don't learn it, or forget it, or whatever.

Even if taught, they don't learn it, forget it, or whatever. Then they rely on garbage internet sites, tik tok etc. for their information. Sad.

[betsuni]

15. Refuses to push the "Make Economy Gooder" button and the Blame Democrats chorus begins.

The belief there are simple solutions and the only reason they aren't done are bad motives.

[triron]

18. And 'gooder' is the word they would use too.

[DBoon]

32. except things didn't work like that even in the old Soviet Union

There is no such button, just like kissing a frog will not cause it to turn into a handsome prince

[keep_left]

33. Correct--but unfortunately, many of them nonetheless believe that...

...to be true.

[DBoon]

34. to the annoyance of many unsuspecting frogs

[oasis]

44. Right on!

[surfered]

8. Democracy cannot survive a stupid electorate.

Although FOX News leads in the ratings, a 2023 survey found that only 12% of Americans regularly watch it. Why 59% of Americans believe something is true when it is not, is a mystery to me.

[triron]

19. Unfortunately true.

[B.See]

9. No doubt that 59% includes

the woefully misinformed and those who, for whatever reasons, WANT to believe Biden controls these things.

It's far easier to find a convenient scapegoat than to understand all of the complex factors and players involved (like corporate price gouging for example)..

Especially when one chooses to ignore the positive indicators of a strong economy under Biden.

Granted it may not translate as such when some are looking at their bottom line and may be struggling. But at least place the blame where it properly lies.

Republicans undermined and opposed consumer protections from predatory banking and lending practices, they opposed a higher federal minimum wage, student debt relief, collective bargaining, the stimulus package, the infrastructure bill, and other assistance programs and initiatives for the middle class and working poor,

while they, in turn, cut a big fat tax break for the rich and corporations who pay ZILCH in taxes.

And their corporate mega donors are gouging the fuck out of consumers so their tax cheater pal, Trump, can give them more goodies

like Trump's bribe to oil tycoons to TRASH environmental regulations for oil companies.

As usual GOP MAGAts fuck the consumer while Democrats get the blame.

Go figure.

10 OF THE LAST ELEVEN RECESSIONS OCCURRED UNDER A GOOP ADMINISTRATION.

[senseandsensibility]

10. This should be an OP!

Great rant!

[B.See]

12. Thanks. There's been plenty to rant about of late

To say I'm greatly disappointed in MANY of our citizenry would be a VAST understatement.

[Tree Lady]

25. The government can set prices

On food they did in the early 80's with milk, eggs, sugar but Republican congress would never allow it.

Democrats need to find messaging about this.

[FBaggins]

29. They can...

It's an incredibly stupid idea... but they can.

[shrike3]

11. Doesn't surprise me.

Just for fun I went to Joe's FB page. Full of trolls, but one in particular seemed to be real. (Most of them aren't, frankly.) I started questioning his assumptions about Biden and inflation. In between telling me how stupid I was (FB specialty) he was expounding on: "If a president can make prices go up, he can make them go down." I responded, "How does a president make prices go up? Tell me." He never responded.

Then there was the guy who stated, "Biden has plenty of inflation-fighting tools at hand. He isn't using them." I asked, "What are they?" I expected him to google and come up with propaganda. He just kept deflecting. I pushed, "What are they? Why can't you tell me?" Then I said, "You can't tell me because you don't know." He never responded.

[RobinA]

17. This Is How

I avoid battles over politics. Start drilling down on what Trumpers say. No argument, questions. Two questions in on a subject and they usually hit a brick wall. It works every time. You can even do it on subjects you know nothing about, because all you have to do is ask questions and they don't usually know anything about what they are talking about either.

[shrike3]

21. It's one of my guilty pleasures.

They're so easy. I'm trying to be better behaved and not engage with these people.

[wishstar]

16. Makes no sense since the Pres. wants to be popular and get re-elected

so why would a President seeking re-election keep prices and inflation high if they had the power to bring costs down.

But logic is not a strong point for many.

[triron]

20. Oh, come on. It's just plain old horse sense. 🫣

[Attilatheblond]

41. Logic not being their strong suit is an understatement.

I am beginning to think the reason so many are fine supporting the man who says he will get rid of the Constitution and be a dictator is because so many don't want to think, or can't. They don't want to take on the responsibilities of being informed citizens that goes along with enjoying citizenship in a democracy. Too friggen lazy to even try to think and learn anything. They want to be fed nonsense so they have more time to engage in hating people and watching reality TV that has absolutely no resemblance to reality. They want to have their petty grievances and major bigotries given a seal of approval by some father figure.

Their willful ignorance will loose our democracy. I swear, sometimes I can feel Dr Franklin shudder and shake his head.

[Demsrule86]

22. You can't .ix stupid.

[Celerity]

23. TBH, I am surpised it is not higher.

[elocs]

24. It's scary that 59% of Americans can be so stupid and misinformed,

including ones who voted for Biden in 2020. Just as long as they are smart enough to vote for him again.

[Generic Brad]

40. 50% are already below average

So it is entirely plausible that the majority of citizens fall prey to disinformation.

[Jilly_in_VA]

26. What idiots are they polling?

Old farts with landlines, still? Nobody EVER asked me.

[TexasDem69]

28. "Controls" or "responsible for"?

[Shermann]

31. The next Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meeting will be held on June 11-12

In addition to moving the markets, in this environment these meetings can move elections.

[David__77]

36. I don't see a big issue with this. The government has macroeconomic controls.

People hold politicians responsible for overall conditions. That’s not new. Polls aren’t about semantics.

[bdamomma]

42. It's Corporate

greed not President Biden. President Biden is on the corporate's back side. He is out to get them.

[GoodRaisin]

45. 59% of people probably can't tell you the name of their congressional representatives

or their two senators. They are too busy watching Netflix or playing video games.

[DFW]

46. As Mencken said,

"'No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."

Or, apparently, their intelligence.

[betsuni]

47. What's hard to understand is why anyone thinks Biden is deliberately hiking prices.

Again, making everything personal, conspiracies, bad motives only for Democrats. Murc's law.