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The Ohio General Assembly adjourned on Wednesday without addressing an issue that the states top elections official said would prevent President Biden from being placed on the ballot there, escalating a partisan clash that could result in the president not being on the ballot in all 50 states in November.
Frank LaRose, the Republican secretary of state, has said that he plans to exclude Mr. Biden from the ballot because he will be officially nominated after a deadline for certifying presidential nominees on the ballot. This is usually a minor procedural issue, and states have almost always offered a quick solution to ensure that major presidential candidates remain on the ballot.
But a legislative fix, which would push back the certification deadline to accommodate the late date of the Democratic National Convention, stalled out this month as Republicans in the Ohio Senate tacked on a partisan measure that would ban foreign donations to state ballot initiatives. Mr. LaRose has previously said that passing the ban is the price that Democrats must pay to ensure that Mr. Biden is on the ballot, and that he would otherwise enforce the law as written.
Charles Lutvak, a spokesman for the Biden campaign, said the campaign was assessing next steps accordingly.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/us/politics/biden-ohio-ballot.html
Freethinker65
(10,181 posts)Biden cannot just concede the state. There are congressional seats to consider.
However, this is the State that elected idiot Vance, so perhaps with Trump a "given", fewer Republicans will actually vote.
LisaL
(45,037 posts)NT
brush
(54,513 posts)So foolish for that election official to think he/she can get away with that.
He is helping run Ohio into the ground.
LisaL
(45,037 posts)That would be stupid. The deadline hasn't passed.
Zeitghost
(3,971 posts)I wouldn't be so sure.
brush
(54,513 posts)No way one of our two major party candidates won't be on the Ohio ballot without a court battle.
Irish_Dem
(50,342 posts)B.See
(1,652 posts)they know they have a pro Trump fascist, insurectionist dominated SC who's in the tank for Trump.
On the other hand that might just be the last straw for Democrats to finally get as pissed as we already should have been.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,244 posts)RussBLib
(9,118 posts)...sounds like you need a break. Take as long as you need.
https://russblib.blogspot.com
LisaL
(45,037 posts)RussBLib
(9,118 posts)...I'd play the horses.
They have time to work it out. Can't tell you the contours of the agreement, obviously, but I find it highly unlikely that they will ultimately keep Biden off the ballot.
https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1
LisaL
(45,037 posts)So this mostly affects the Senate race and other down the ticket races. The theory goes, if democrats can't vote for president, a lot won't bother to vote.
But who knows, maybe republicans will be the ones who won't bother to vote if Trump runs un-opposed.
Bob0264
(12 posts)Last edited Thu May 23, 2024, 03:40 PM - Edit history (1)
The DNC can nominate Biden online before the convention. They may need to make a rules change first, then hold the vote. All can be done online well before this deadline. Then just use the convention for what it is. A big rally and party with a bunch of speeches. The nomination vote is just a formality. We all know who the nominee is going to be. I mean, duh. Just do an online nomination well before Ohio's deadline and be done with this nonsense. Courts often uphold these deadlines.
In Maine we do all the major state convention votes online BEFORE the state convention. It's simple.
Hope22
(2,002 posts)You are about to lose a Dem Senator if this shit goes down. Hmm so why do you think the Rs in Ohio care. They will claim TSF AND ANOTHER VANCE! Good luck with that! This shit is real and very disheartening to people who have been working to put this state back together!
Abstractartist
(18 posts)The deadline is 90 before election. The DNC must act after the final primary in June. The electoral delegates for the democrats must all meet on a zoom conference and cast their votes for nomination, with the witnessing of election officials. Once President Biden receives the proper amount of delegates to be the nominee, it can be officially registered and Ohio has zero standing. Any laziness or ridiculous timing on the Dems part will be a very bad situation and will be costly. This is my own personal opinion and may not even be correct, but my other opinion is one cant rely on a court ruling.
Hope22
(2,002 posts)The issues we passed in November still havent been implemented! Ohio senate still has NOT implemented them! We have had to vote and revote and gerrymandering STILL it is not fixed. The League of Women voters works their butts off To no avail. If they stop hundreds of thousands of people from voting in a presidential election things may get real ugly. No one deserves to have their vote stolen. As a woman being threatened by the court this is the icing in the cake. Only a fool would not feel hopeless! All should worry. You could be next.
ColinC
(8,500 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,244 posts)sure of, and I guess this is part of how they will do it.
ColinC
(8,500 posts)I wouldnt even be surprised if he wins Ohio as a write-in
John Shaft
(460 posts)LisaL
(45,037 posts)included on the ballot. So there is no such thing as a serious write in campaign.
ColinC
(8,500 posts)Isnt the definition of a write in candidate somebody who is not on the ballot?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,244 posts)I think it would be a disaster if people had to do that and I think counting those votes would be become an issue also , fucking Republicans have no intention of letting us have an actual election.
Silent3
(15,618 posts)It shouldn't be so hard to answer one technicality being played against us with technicality move of our own.
Maeve
(42,398 posts)Conventions are traditional but not strictly necessary
That said, the Ohio lege are idjits and jerks, at least in the majority. We used to have some sense, but now.....
Mountainguy
(694 posts)Democrats control how they are going to nominate their candidate. There isn't any doubt on who will get the nomination either. Just hold a call ahead of the deadline and nominate.
Hold the conference as planned and do it all again there for the cameras.
Silent Type
(3,498 posts)someone will come to their senses, at least I used to think that.
Cosmocat
(14,630 posts)This should, and long has been, part of the election planning process for parties in each of the states, knowing the deadline and making sure they hold their conventions prior.
And, we have LONG been past the point where anyone should be naive enough to think that republicans will honor past practices based on being a decent and civil citizenry.
budkin
(6,785 posts)You think if this were Trump the Dems would even be attempting it?
LisaL
(45,037 posts)NT
MichMan
(12,091 posts)RandySF
(61,450 posts)Apparently, there is a rich individual that puts money into non profit organizations fighting for abortion rights and other liberal causes.
https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories/2024/05/10/fight-over-foreign-donations-stymies-putting-biden-on-ohio-ballot/
NBachers
(17,318 posts)Celerity
(44,496 posts)followed my entire life.
Hansjörg Wyss, who owns a smallish part of Chelsea. He is a Swiss national.
Bob0264
(12 posts)People need to understand that the RePUKElicans are absolute FASCISTS and in Ohio they are ULTRA-CORRUPT. They are sick Trump-humping ultra right wing scumbags who hate democracy and love their power. Their Sec. of State tried to do a referendum to make it harder to pass other referendums just to stop the pro-abortion referendum from passing. He is a fascist scumbag. Luckily Ohioans voted that down and then passed the pro-abortion referendum by 57%. They are now trying to undo their fascist gerrymandering. It is what the RePUKElicans do. They were NEVER going to allow Biden on ballot through granting an exception even though they made exceptions in the past for BOTH parties over their stupid nomination deadline rule.
The solution here is simple. The DNC can determine how to nominate its presidential candidate. It may take a rules vote, so do it. Hold a virtual vote online to change the rules to then allow for a virtual online nomination and then do that. It could be done in one sitting. It could
possibly be done on a zoom call, or just through an online form voting process. Send delegates user name and password codes and do it that way. It's not that hard. In Maine we do major votes like this virtually online before the state convention and then use the convention for all the speeches and the county-level breakout sessions where county level business is taken care of. There, problem solved! Just do it. Use the national convention as the SHOW that it is for the speeches etc. The nomination process is just a formality. Do it beforehand.
I have emailed my state DNC reps TWICE urging them to do this. If you go to your state party website you should be able to find the names and email addresses of your state's DNC reps.
Raven123
(5,085 posts)Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out the GOP is still pi$$ed about the Reproductive Rights amendment.
pwb
(11,462 posts).
Crunchy Frog
(26,752 posts)At this point, no one in our party should be acting like they think republicans will behave reasonably in the end.
DVRacer
(711 posts)The teacher says look your book report is due on Friday. You decide well every other year she let me turn it in on Monday so I will wait until Sunday to write it. On Tuesday she reiterated no late turn in its due on Friday.
Election deadlines enshrined in law will stand scrutiny even if we dont find it fair. DNC its Tuesday figure out a way to turn in your paper by Friday. Do it now dont wait have a plan and do it.