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When postponing the trial, Cannon pointed to the mountain of unresolved pretrial issues for not putting a new date on the calendar. Wednesday kicks off a stretch of hearings scheduled through late July that will get the case through some but not all of the pretrial issues.
During the afternoon portion of Wednesdays arguments, the defense lawyers raised concerns about how prosecutors structured the indictment, claiming that the wording for different charges within the same indictment sometimes sounded the same.
Prosecutor Jay Bratt said the charges reference different parts of the obstruction statute used to charge Trump and two of his employees. Bratt also pointed out that jurors would be given clear instructions about the charges during a trial.
Cannon said that while its going to be hard for someone to detect whats different in these counts, she noted that will be a project down the road. Cannon has not yet set a trial date in the case after indefinitely postponing it in an order earlier this month.
The Florida judge spent hours Wednesday entertaining theories from defense attorneys about what they say were problems in the investigation and prosecution of the former president, Nauta and the third co-defendant, Carlos De Oliveira. The defense theories ranged from allegations that prosecutors tried to extort Nautas attorney to claims prosecutors used inappropriate and attention-grabbing descriptions of Mar-a-Lago in the indictment. Cannon ultimately suggested that the potpourri of criticisms from the three defense teams may be best suited for a jury to decide at an eventual trial.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/22/politics/trump-documents-case-judge-cannon-hearing/index.html
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unblock
(52,881 posts)Takket
(21,912 posts)jimfields33
(16,720 posts)Turbineguy
(37,572 posts)Or inbred mutants.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,480 posts)But I think that even Florida Man, after simple explanation, can understand "stealing classified documents - bad".
TexLaProgressive
(12,181 posts)And it's not protecting a defendant. I really think this indefinite postponement of setting a trial date should be appealed and she should be removed.
Irish_Dem
(50,457 posts)DickKessler
(374 posts)but here we are.
elleng
(132,296 posts)may be best suited for a jury to decide at an eventual trial.'
In other words, 'I have no idea what to do.'
Compare with retired judge here: The (tricky) legal instructions for the jury in NY v Trump - Talking Feds
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132223879
Irish_Dem
(50,457 posts)And make it understandable to the jury.
This judge is hopeless.
senseandsensibility
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Hermit-The-Prog
(34,193 posts)The loose cannon simply kicked those cans down the road until there is now a pile big enough to block the road.
elleng
(132,296 posts)Doesn't know how/want to do her job.
bluestarone
(17,389 posts)I'm thinking THIS judge is gonna interfere lots.
lastlib
(23,659 posts)but they will pick a jury--one way or another---IF the "jurist" doesn't (wrongly) throw out the case.)
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Cha
(299,361 posts)Trial..
So much Wrong.. and the assholes are questioning Judge Marchon when TSF is Guilty.
UTUSN
(71,063 posts)JoseBalow
(3,136 posts)"peers"
Aviation Pro
(12,422 posts)...Motherfucker stole documents that didn't belong to him and kept them after repeated attempts to resolve the situation and recover them. A jury will understand that clearly.
Fuck you, Motherfucker's lawyer.
Skittles
(153,995 posts)unless s/he is a repuke HACK
vapor2
(1,303 posts)RandySF
(61,644 posts)Hassler
(3,440 posts)jmowreader
(50,715 posts)Trump had a shitload of our nation's secrets stuffed in the restroom of his hotel in Palm Beach, where ANYONE could get to them.
lindysalsagal
(20,996 posts)Celerity
(44,575 posts)ever again for that crime(s) as jeopardy is attached.
The US legal system is profoundly flawed at so so so many levels.
budkin
(6,790 posts)Where are you??
Buns_of_Fire
(17,328 posts)I swear, of all the cases against TSF, this one seemed to me to be the most open-and-shut.
Are you allowed to take classified documents with you when you leave? No. Did he? Yes.
Are you allowed to keep said documents when the government nicely asks for them back? No Did he? Yes.
Are you allowed to try to hide these documents when Uncle Sam shows up at the door and insists on their return? No. Did he? Yes.
Open and shut. Guilty. Time to saltboard the treasonous slug.
marble falls
(58,803 posts)RandySF
(61,644 posts)Captain Zero
(7,013 posts)Coached in her incompetence by someone. It's all too convenient.
RobinA
(9,958 posts)that's the judges' job. She needs to recuse herself if she doesn't understand the charges. Also here in PA, no one just hands the jury the proposed jury instructions from either side, so again, that's her job.