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For those folks who think it's a great idea to give Trump another chance in the White House, I say "are you fucking crazy?".
Trump believes that climate change is a hoax
Trump believed that Covid 19 was a hoax
Trump and his supporters oppose any college debt forgiveness
Trump with a Republican majority in the House and Seante will end women's reproductive rights
Trump's Justice Department will side with police in any racial abuse incidents
Trump will appoint two, younger MAGA judges to the Supreme Court to replace Thomas and Alito
Trump will side with Dictators (i.e. Putin) over Western Democracies (added on edit)
Trump will give unlimited support to the Netanyahu Government.
Trump and his minions will round up immigrants and deport up to 11 million
Trump promises to end "birth right citizenship" for American immigrants
Trump wants to repeal any gun "regulations"
Include "right to work", voter access, state's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, fossil fuel production and restrictions on Free Speech and a free press.
Oh, ya. It can get much worse and for much longer.
As the best President since FDR is fond of saying, "This is no joke."
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Arne
(2,578 posts)when we elected Obama.
It's been revenge ever since.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,929 posts)republianmushroom
(14,612 posts)mercuryblues
(14,615 posts)sexist jargon, about an OP that includes taking away women's rights.
Cosmocat
(14,630 posts)we have been fighting do darn long trying to avoid it, but just too many stupid and or mean people in this country.
calimary
(81,972 posts)My Indivisible group issues one every week. For better or worse, I guess I'm "head writer." (Because I write about heads - and other commodes! )
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)was because a lot of voters thought he had the business sense to lead, but hes failed at business.
Hes proven to be a failure at a lot of things now.
HRC wouldve been a great President, but the media baggage was too much for voters that could not see beyond the BS.
Im more worried about election theft by the republicans than TSF actually getting legitimate votes.
MadameButterfly
(1,175 posts)people on board to overturn an election including SCOTUS. This was never about winning a majority, just getting enough votes that they can steal the rest.
Listen to what they accuse Dema of. Thats what they are planning t. do.
edisdead
(2,025 posts)Nobody that didnt vote for him last time will vote for him this time, and a hell of a lot of folks who did vote for him before will not this time.
MadameButterfly
(1,175 posts)Gaza, age. I'm not saying I agree, but these seems to matter to people when the alternative is cataclysmic
Cosmocat
(14,630 posts)polling is showing he is in a much stronger position now than he was against Hillary at this point in the race 8 years ago. I mean, he is leading pretty much across the board, whereas Hillary had mostly solid leads on him until the Comey hitjob.
Not us, but his side is angry and determined and the rest of the country has given up and pretty much rolling over.
Joe has been a really good POTUS, but this country is just that relentlessly stupid at this point.
Bundbuster
(3,453 posts)How much worse can it get? The end of any hope for an inhabitable planet within this century.
sheshe2
(84,473 posts)One correction though, he knew that COVID wasn't a hoax. He knew it was deadly, he knew it would spread rapidly, yet he wanted his sheep to believe it was a hoax.
See his interview with Woodward.
Straw Man
(6,647 posts)He only professes to believe whatever he thinks will get the rubes to vote for him and return him to power. Because power is the only thing he believes in, the only thing he craves. He is the Collective Unconscious of the aggrieved and disenfranchised lumpenproletariat of the postindustrial American economy. In exchange for their support, he will use his power to destroy whatever and whomever they perceive as "the enemy." He has said as much in his rally speeches.
Pototan
(1,304 posts)but I know what he advocates for. Roe was overturned because of Trump's appointments to the Supreme Court. Those same appointments have advanced the cause of "right to work laws", have built roadblocks to gun laws, have threatened gay rights,
Trump personally has advanced the cause to Authoritarianism and has weakened our Democratic Alliances.
I don't care what he believes. I know the consequences of his being President.
MadameButterfly
(1,175 posts)Pototan
(1,304 posts)That's the part I can't understand. Before I vote or support anyone for any office I find out as much as I can about how this person can affect my life and the lives of the people important to me.
This election should be 57% to 37% Biden if most people paid attention and voted with knowledge.
MadameButterfly
(1,175 posts)What will become of Biden, Maddow, Obama, Raskin, etc. Will they flee or become martyrs? And where would they flee to in a NATO abandoned by thr US? We can't underestimste the stakes, and the courage of our public figures right now. We have to d this for us, but also for them.
Martin Eden
(12,940 posts)He says whatever serves his purpose in the moment. His pronouncements on climate change and COVID merely validate what the MAGA base wants to hear.
The Fascist Grifter is a pathological liar, a malignant narcissist, and a cruel sociopath.
The only thing he believes in is filling the bottomless pit of his ego, greed, and base appetites.
Pototan
(1,304 posts)I don't know what Trump believes. The more accurate phrase may be "advocates for or against". No matter what he "believes", we are living with the consequences of his actions.
Martin Eden
(12,940 posts)He would reverse progress on combating climate change, and we saw how many died when he denied the seriousness of COVID.
Johnny2X2X
(19,648 posts)It's uncanny and obvious now. None of the great things Biden has done are even common knowledge. All the media talks about is inflation, illegal immigration, and Gaza. All the while they normalize Trump more and more.
And I no longer think it's just media grubbing for stories, the revelations of the trial make it clear Trump has key plants at media all over the country. MSNBC and the NYTime have people who are merely Trump frienly, they are actual Trump campaign members, they answer to the campaign and takle orders from them. Obviously FOX News calls into campaign strategy meetings daily. The National Enquirer was the model we should be paying attention to, there are likely dozens of David Peckers at media outlets all over the airwaves and internet. Trump shapes the news. His campaign gets heads up for negative stories, they get veto power over some of them. They have doznes of key people they can call up to run positive Trump stories. And I suspect he has station directors in high places too.
This is an unprecendeted dynamic in US history. Joe Biden has his work cut out for him, the deck is stacked against him.