So, I alienated my barista yesterday...

[Wounded Bear]

It never occurred to me that she might be one of those...

She's a young gal, 30-ish, pretty and chatty with her customers. It's funny how shit comes up in conversation, but as things went on I mentioned that as a senior, I had to be thankful for young folks like her working. All in jest, of course, but she gave me the line about "Well, it won't be there when I need it."

So I told her the truth, I heard the same thing when I was her age, back in the 70's. Then I guess I started it because I said, well that's why you have to vote for the right folks who will support the program or something like that. Well, she comes out with, "I voted for trump, but he keeps losing."

And it just blurted out of my mouth, I couldn't help myself. I said, "That's because he's a loser." Hell, I though it was pretty funny, but she immediately slid the window of the drive up closed and went and busied herself in the back of the shop. Oops.

Wonder if I'll see her again.

[FarPoint]

1. She also alientated you....

We can not let the tRumpers project their shunning onto us...

[TomSlick]

37. She alienated you AND you were the customer.

Your perception of the encounter is the more important.

[ActRaiser]

2. The truth hurts

Maybe what you said will make a dent in her MAGA-diseased head. One can hope!

[SeanHG]

3. Wonder if I'll see her again.

If you do, expect spit in your coffee (or worse)...

[AKwannabe]

6. Yes

Go somewhere else!

[RAB910]

4. We need to do more of this. There needs to be a negative feedback loop when people blurt out that they are MAGA

[yorkster]

5. Guess she has no idea that Republicans are

the ones who want to get rid of Social Security and Medicare and Trump would go right along with that.

[GB_RN]

7. They Don't.

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Unfortunately, so many people who are legitimately concerned about Social Security and Medicare don’t understand that the GOPQ want to kill those programs and/or make that issue nowhere near the priority it should be, when compared to the “brown people invading our country!!!” and “the trans kids will make your frogs gay” (ok, I mashed up an Alex Jones rant with the GOPQ-ball trans rant), etc. The “other” fear mongering is for many people what the shiny object is for a bird: Distraction!

[Roy Rolling]

41. Yes

Let losers survive on other losers’ money only. Losers are cheap and terrible tippers, good luck MAGAts. Monetizing stupidity is not for amateurs.

[70sEraVet]

8. Just another example of people who vote against their own best interests!

And you tried to warn her. Maybe she'll end up giving the matter some thought.

[kimbutgar]

9. No more tips for her!

[swong19104]

10. Saying "He's a loser"

might not have been the best thing.

Better would be, "If Trump wins, you can pretty much guarantee that he'll hoover up whatever money is in the Social Security 'lock box' and keep it for himself."

[Think. Again.]

26. And then say....

"And he's a loser".

[IronLionZion]

11. GOP promotes that lie because they want to end SS and Medicare

They think they'll get support from young people who falsely assume they won't ever get benefits. And they think they'll get support from conservative old people who want to stick it to lazy undeserving young people. It's a scam that works on too many stupid voters.

[peggysue2]

12. At least she recognizes that Trump 'keeps losing'

Of course, if she's a true Trumper there's a nefarious reason for that--Democrats cheating, liberal bias, the Deep State, yada, yada.

It'll be interesting to see if you have any other interaction with the young woman. Who knows? You may have pierced the info bubble bc yes, Donald Trump is a loser.

[Blue Owl]

13. Hopefully you talked some sense in to her!

No woman should be voting for that misogynistic fuck

[AllaN01Bear]

14. she brouht it up and then she stepped right into it. her own fault and not the san andreas fault

mom called that foot in mouth illness.

[usonian]

15. Went inside, picked up personal items and got a ride home.

[KS Toronado]

16. Way too many MAGAts go ballistics if they hear anything negative

about their Lord & Savior, reminds me of '30s Germany.

[duhneece]

17. You planted a seed of doubt in the story she tells herself

Maybe it will sprout and she’ll begin letting in some real information. Maybe she won’t.
You did the only thing we can, you planted a seed.
You did good

[SWBTATTReg]

18. Good for you. I'm sick and tired of hearing these people endlessly whine about tRUMP's treatment, etc.

despite all of the crap that he in turn, pulls to cause all of these negative feelings about him to flourish.

She deserved to hear your truth, since she seemed insistent on sharing hers w/ you to begin w/.

[IbogaProject]

19. Supposed construction pro

TSF was supposedly a strong building pro but he couldnt even organize a single infrastructure event while Joe got the biggest construction bill passed in 9 months.
He neither finished the wall, He didnt get Mexico to pay for it either.

[Wounded Bear]

20. A "pro" at high end NY City real estate, one of the most corrupt industries in America...

[IbogaProject]

23. Its more Joe did more than any other ever

The digs are more to draw the comparison. I'm willing to excuse 2016 maybe 2020 if they're contrite. So to estlabish a dialog, compare one couldn't even do a presentation and our guy got the biggest construction bill ever passed 9 or so months in. And it would've been better if the billionaires hadn't limited it.

[republianmushroom]

21. trump supporters don't like be told the truth.

[Think. Again.]

27. or to tell the truth either.

[Marcus IM]

31. Not just trump supporters.

Many Americans have no clue about America's ugly history (and present).
They don't want to know.
It doesn't conform to the lifelong propaganda about the US being the greatest nation on earth.

[mahina]

22. We each must convert 2 or 3 to win.

Maybe she’s one of yours, maybe this is an uncomfortable beginning to a good start. Good luck! Consider it a blessing.

Without each of us converting our two or Three, we know what is in store, and we just can’t be having that.

[Think. Again.]

28. We outnumber them...

...Yes, we need to get out the vote, but let's focus on the people who aren't brainwashed into his cult.

[mahina]

29. I understand, we have limited resources and time and need to make the best use of it.

Persuading persuadables

It starts with compassion because we definitely know that calling theor stupidity does not work.

[Think. Again.]

30. Well said....

And yes, I agree, at some point we will have to put the past behind and dig deep for the compassion that they will need to heal. But in the meantime, I believe they need to know the pain and hurt they are causing and as long they keep doubling down, so will I.

[ShazzieB]

24. Great retort!

I'm afraid I would have blurted something like, "Oh, honey, do you actually think Trump would protect social security!?" (accompanied by a horrified expression).



Would that have been better, worse, or neither? I have absolutely no idea! :laughing

[Cha]

25. If you do talk to her again.. you might want

to tell her TSF wants to do AWAY with our SS.. That's the Truth.

Too bad she's brainwashed by LIES.

TY

[JoseBalow]

32. I wouldn't trust her with my coffee after that

[Conjuay]

33. Too Bad, so sad,

She can fuck off too!
I have reached the point I don't care if these snowflakes get all weepy.
Stupidity on their part doesn't mean you have to pussy foot around them.

[lame54]

34. Don't drink anything she gives you

[ZonkerHarris]

35. Proper response: "Trump & Republicans want to kill Social Security and Medicare. Look it up."

[Bristlecone]

36. At least she said he keeps losing

Instead of some delusional “rigged” BS

[hydrolastic]

38. I tell the guys at work....

That I am not giving up my SS unless they pay me every dime I paid into it. then I ask them how much they paid in.
If we get past this point, I ask them if they know their employers have matched that payment 1 for 1 and that its actually twice what they think. Then I ask them if they want to give that up.

[Wounded Bear]

39. Don't forget to ask them about their latest annual report...

SSA mails one out to every employee every year.

[Tetrachloride]

40. Alien: Romulus soon

[oldsoftie]

42. You wouldnt think she'd be a trump voter. We'd better realize there are more of her.

I live in a mostly red area. Most of the trump voters I know dont fit the mold that people here talk about. I'm current president of a non profit group who raise money to give to youth programs locally. EVERYONE in my club will vote for trump. ALL of them are college educated intelligent people. The common thread among them is watching Fox News all the time. Many of their kids will vote for trump as well, because their dad tells them he's better.
My usual sign off in these discussions; can the people angry about abortion outnumber the people pissed off about gas prices & the border? because those 3 items are going to be lynchpins. The border has been and IS a disaster. Gas prices have dropped from their high but they're STILL too high. But I know a lot of pissed off women AND men on the abortion issue. Two people I know were trump voters who never thought the court would toss Roe. Hopefully there are many more.