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lees1975

(3,981 posts)
Mon May 13, 2024, 12:52 PM May 13

Hey, fellow Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan Democrats! Share your observations.

"The Polls" have become a collective entity seemingly unmoved when it comes to Joe Biden. That's impossible, but there it is.

I'm interested to hear impressions from democrats in the battleground states about what is developing there regarding the campaign, and whether you think the polls are accurate or not. It just seems funny that no matter what, there's a cluster of polls that never move, while others are all over the place. Are you seeing ads, yard signs, bumper stickers, television and radio coverage? Is Biden getting his fair share or is Trump, Trump, Trump in the news the big deal?

My job has involved making a couple of drives across the countryside in Michigan and Wisconsin, places in rural areas billed as "Trump Country," where his flags and banners and signs were all over the place in 2020. But in Western Michigan two weeks ago, and in Southern Wisconsin this week, I only saw two of Trump's flags, and one lone yard sign. I hear it's similar in Arizona, either people just don't do that anymore like they did four years ago, or the signs aren't there because the support's not there.

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Hey, fellow Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan Democrats! Share your observations. (Original Post) lees1975 May 13 OP
Polls are tight some places Johnny2X2X May 13 #1
Same here in Mid-Michigan. multigraincracker May 13 #5
When I was over that way a couple of weeks back, I saw zero evidence that Trump is running, though lees1975 May 13 #7
Wisconsin? among my news sources, Tetrachloride May 13 #2
I live in small town NC dsc May 13 #3
Perhaps the polls aren't moving because... brooklynite May 13 #4
I'm From PA RobinA May 13 #6
Only one house in my neighborhood still flies a Trump flag. ChazII May 13 #8
I am in Western Pa and must say, outside Pittsburgh.. It's a vast red area.. DemocratInPa May 13 #9
We're only 9 million people. DFW May 13 #10
In AZ, kairos12 May 13 #11

Johnny2X2X

(19,420 posts)
1. Polls are tight some places
Mon May 13, 2024, 12:55 PM
May 13

Trump and Biden close to tied in MI. Biden leads in Wisconsin and PA.

I am here in West Michigan, the Trump flags are few and far between. And I drove the the UP last Fall and saw almost zero.

Biden will win Michigan comfortably IMO. Just no momentum for Trump here at all and the Dems in charge of the state are geting a ton done for working people.

lees1975

(3,981 posts)
7. When I was over that way a couple of weeks back, I saw zero evidence that Trump is running, though
Mon May 13, 2024, 01:46 PM
May 13

there were some Biden signs and banners, actually in Kalamazoo. Nothing for Trump between Kalamazoo and Allegan. A few Biden signs, most of what I saw were the Biden-Harris stickers on cars. And there were television ads during the morning and evening newscasts.

Tetrachloride

(7,969 posts)
2. Wisconsin? among my news sources,
Mon May 13, 2024, 01:15 PM
May 13

fog

might as well be in a rubber room

i don’t know what Wisconsin Dems are doing. maybe they don’t know how or where to talk

dsc

(52,188 posts)
3. I live in small town NC
Mon May 13, 2024, 01:16 PM
May 13

and the number of Trump flags, signs, bumper stickers, etc is considerably smaller than in either 2016 or 2020.

brooklynite

(95,308 posts)
4. Perhaps the polls aren't moving because...
Mon May 13, 2024, 01:26 PM
May 13

...the race has been and remains close; just like the Biden campaign said it would be.

RobinA

(9,940 posts)
6. I'm From PA
Mon May 13, 2024, 01:38 PM
May 13

I don't see many signs of any sort here in the Philadelphia 'burbs. There are a few Trumps that have been up since 2020, but no new ones. About a month ago I took a ride through the boondocks, normally a forest of Trump signs including the big ones, but saw nothing. Bumper stickers, haven't seen a one. Recent Inquirer article mentioning that black turnout could be a problem in the city. There needs to be a big surplus of urban blue turnout to offset the fact that most of the state is red.

The signs are not a warning to me yet (they were in 2016), but the number of people who just blame Biden for everything is not encouraging. I personally know of no one who claims to be undecided, they either hate Trump or they don't. I doubt there's much that can change that. As inexplicable as I may find it, I think it will be very close in this state.

ChazII

(6,213 posts)
8. Only one house in my neighborhood still flies a Trump flag.
Mon May 13, 2024, 01:52 PM
May 13

The few other Trump supporters with flags from last year no longer have anything that shows they once supported Trump.

DemocratInPa

(400 posts)
9. I am in Western Pa and must say, outside Pittsburgh.. It's a vast red area..
Mon May 13, 2024, 01:56 PM
May 13

I just hope Biden gets people out to vote in blue areas, if he does, he will take PA, if he slacks in this, it sadly will be Trumps.

right now, I can't say who is winning in PA.

kairos12

(12,932 posts)
11. In AZ,
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:26 PM
May 13

if the abortion amendment makes the ballot (likely), it should keep Biden in play.

Also, many people hate Scary Lake.

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