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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFlorida student openly admits to being 'anti-Jewish' at panel event
The short clip shows the student saying, "And every single protest that we have, our actions have had counter-protesters, and there is never any backlash and never police protecting us. In fact, our police are directly protecting counter-protesters even at our events.
So I want to ask you all, is Palestinian life not worth mourning? And we, as Arab, Palestinian, Muslim, and anti-Jewish students, are we not worth protecting?
https://www.jpost.com/christianworld/article-800836
Oops, a slip of the plausible deniability tongue. She was supposed to say "Zionist".
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jimfields33
(16,673 posts)yardwork
(62,036 posts)Mosby
(16,562 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,910 posts)Mosby
(16,562 posts)Nt.
yardwork
(62,036 posts)al bupp
(2,213 posts)They are caught on camera beating, cursing at and hoping protesters get raped.
Beastly Boy
(9,910 posts)Last edited Sun May 12, 2024, 01:09 PM - Edit history (1)
An excuse? A deflection? A whataboutism?
You decide.
al bupp
(2,213 posts)Why be so selective in the application of antisemitism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#:~:text=Palestine%20has%20undergone%20many%20demographic,link%20to%20the%20ancient%20Canaanites
sarisataka
(19,456 posts)Semitic used in a racial sense comes from the Göttingen school of history in the 1770s.
Blumenbach and Meiners's color terminology for race: Caucasian or white race; Mongolian or yellow race; Malayan or brown race; Negroid or black race; and American or red race;[6
]Gatterer, Schlözer and Eichhorn's Biblical terminology for race: Semitic, Hamitic and Japhetic.
Further development of their theories gave us a refined term for the best of the Japhetic people, the Aryans.
Are you sure you want to use their definition of Semitic as a race?
al bupp
(2,213 posts)Race is a social construct used to group people. Race was constructed as a hierarchal human-grouping system, generating racial classifications to identify, distinguish and marginalize some groups across nations, regions and the world. Race divides human populations into groups often based on physical appearance, social factors and cultural backgrounds.
https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Race
Therefore definitions for race cannot be "scientific".
sarisataka
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The "racial" definitions were pseudoscientific terms created to justify racism. The argument that antisemitic applies to all Middle Eastern people is using their pseudoscience definition. It (antisemitism) applies to Jews alone.
The term antisemitic was coined to soften the previous term used in Germany, Judenhass "Jew hate"
JustAnotherGen
(32,298 posts)And the realities of how the group being discriminated against by their country are being dismissed as "nothing because it is not real anyways".
My lesson learned at DU (search Trayvon Martin, black lives matter, Jordan Davis and add the word gun) -there are spirit snipers everywhere.
I know you are writing The Truth, you know you are writing The Truth and we both are bearing witness to the Dominant Culture's game. It never changes.
If it helps folks to sleep at night to dismiss the reality now - let them. The Dominant Culture is going to radically change in short order. Get back them in 20 years - when all of a sudden - just like that . . . it matters to them.
It hurts my soul to see you pulled down into that mire.
sarisataka
(19,456 posts)And history is completely forgotten
ShazzieB
(16,973 posts)But it was very, very real to most people in the not so distant past (and still real to many at present). If you read about the history of the Holocaust, for example, it comes up over and over again, because in Hitler's ideology, "race" was a very real thing, and it was considered scientific by many (not just Nazis) at the time.
You don't have to believe that race is a valid, scientific concept yourself to recognize that most people used to believe it was or to appreciate the powerful effect that concept has had in human history.
And I don't mean just n terms of Nazi Germany. Look at the history of the mistreatment of indigenous peoples in the U.S., as well as the system of chattel slavery of people of African descent. Race was the basis for both of those things.
I could go on and on, but I'll stop here and just leave you with this: No matter what we as educated westerners may think of the term "race," to discount this concept's profound influence on human history just because it's "unscientific" would be dangerously disingenuous.
NoRethugFriends
(2,442 posts)al bupp
(2,213 posts)I have read all sorts of ugly things said about Palestinians that would all be considered to cross the line of antisemitism if said about people of Jewish heritage or ethnicity. That is what my original response to this thread was attempting to point out.
JustAnotherGen
(32,298 posts)Truth and reality. Your question deserves its own thread.
Listen to that anti Semitic little snot, seek her out, and tell her why she's arguing about something that doesn't exist.
Beastly Boy
(9,910 posts)When was the last time you've heard of "antisemitic" being applied to anyone other than the Jews? Or antisemites being referred to as Arab haters?
Let's do an SAT question, just for fun:
Semitic is to antisemitic as septic is to ___________________
a) antiseptic
b) pretty
c) tall
d) none of the above
If you answered a), you get an F
Behind the Aegis
(54,199 posts)Pretty much when that argument is made, it is obvious that the comment is meant to be a "look over there" moment from someone who is either ignorant or spewing (or about to spew) bigotry.
JustAnotherGen
(32,298 posts)Just a different group.
It's a trope for spirit snipers.
yardwork
(62,036 posts)There are a lot of cute word games being played here lately. Elementary school level taunting is the last refuge for people who know they don't really have a valid argument. So they revert to sniggers and sneers.
I'm seeing a lot of primitive behavior here lately.
ShazzieB
(16,973 posts)Source: https://njop.org/the-origin-of-word-anti-semitism/
In 1879, German journalist Wilhelm Marr originated the term antisemitism, denoting the hatred of Jews, and also hatred of various liberal, cosmopolitan, and international political trends of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries often associated with Jews. The trends under attack included equal civil rights, constitutional democracy, free trade, socialism, finance capitalism, and pacifism.
Source: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/antisemitism
LeftInTX
(26,269 posts)https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitic
Semitic people or Semites is an obsolete term for an ethnic, cultural or racial group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
Happy Hoosier
(7,610 posts)Anti-Jewish in their own words. And your response is to what about it? Cmon .. thats gross.
Mountainguy
(694 posts)I'm more concerned about Jewish student that can't walk to class and janitors that get taken hostage.
ShazzieB
(16,973 posts)That - blocking Jewish stuents from their own campus - makes my blod boil!
OF COURSE the counterprotesters were angry! I would have been outraged myself. And these little brats think they have the right to complain about the people THEY mistreated being angry at them? Gve me a freaking break!
dembotoz
(16,896 posts)EllieBC
(3,118 posts)the anti Muslim assholes after 9/11?
Beastly Boy
(9,910 posts)Demsrule86
(69,096 posts)sarisataka
(19,456 posts)She just hates Jews.
Happy Hoosier
(7,610 posts)Do we accept Islamophobia because of Islamic terrorism? Cmon ..
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tritsofme
(17,575 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,729 posts)she may just be a Jew hater taught to her by her parents to hate Jews just because.
My explanation is just as legitimate as yours.
Have a great day and week.
yardwork
(62,036 posts)Say what you really mean.
EllieBC
(3,118 posts)I am glad she finally said the quiet part out loud. Stop hiding behind anti-Zionist and just admit the truth that they hate Jews.
Srkdqltr
(6,564 posts)As always.
I'm bigoted against Netanyahu and Hamas, whoever they are.
Beastly Boy
(9,910 posts)Just sing along:
Oh the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Hindus hate the Muslims
And everybody hates the Jews!
Cha
(299,222 posts)"Protection from what? They are the ones Attacking and Harassing Jewish Students, People, and Businesses.
Link to tweet
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