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MAGA Baffoons proudly bragging about being uneducated. (Original Post) Emile May 12 OP
These are dodgy people. They dodge questions they don't like and and ignore answers that don't fit the MAGA narrative. marble falls May 12 #1
and they think they know it all. Probably graduated Emile May 12 #2
It gets worse, you know: look up the "unschooling" movement. Now that's some scary shit ... marble falls May 12 #5
Unschooling movement. Oh dear lord. paleotn May 12 #12
Most of them were too dumb to realize Emile May 12 #14
Unschooling can work, done right NanaCat May 12 #20
My son got his masters from George Washington University, my eldest daughter graduated St Edwards University ... marble falls May 12 #22
Many people are uneducated or undereducated. Being proud of it makes one stupid. They will die that way. Wonder Why May 12 #3
They will die early and in great pain and will blame us. paleotn May 12 #11
Sometimes a laugh at the man in the street interviews. JohnnyRingo May 12 #4
There's a sinister aspect to the arrogance of their ignorance. It is telling. jaxexpat May 12 #6
The: "I'm ignorant and proud of it" contingent dlk May 12 #7
I know a guy that fits right in Woodwizard May 12 #8
What's scary is how many of these buffoons there are in this country. lees1975 May 12 #9
agreed Skittles May 12 #18
Some of them in blue areas have cranked out their own supply NanaCat May 12 #21
They're the mob as John Adams called them. paleotn May 12 #10
Paddle faster, I hear banjos. n/t flvegan May 12 #13
Does this go on in other countries? not fooled May 12 #15
We do have 'teh stoopid' here in France, but it doesn't seem to be as endemic GoneOffShore May 12 #17
Time for a Terry Pratchett quote: GoneOffShore May 12 #16
The Rapist in Chief said it himself: They LOVE the poorly educated, because B.See May 12 #19
Knowledge and Truth are "woke." Emile May 13 #23

marble falls

(59,557 posts)
1. These are dodgy people. They dodge questions they don't like and and ignore answers that don't fit the MAGA narrative.
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:55 AM
May 12

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marble falls

(59,557 posts)
5. It gets worse, you know: look up the "unschooling" movement. Now that's some scary shit ...
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:55 AM
May 12

... they claim it's a sort of poor people's Montessori school. What it really is: parents too lazy, busy, incapable of home teaching salving their consciences. They believe their kids should be grazing education, whatever interests them will turn them on. The problem is: how does the average kid teach himself to read or do math when the parent is functionally illiterate with no reading comprehension past "place in the microwave 5 minutes" and math skills limited by the range of ten fingers.

Don't get me started. We actually have a home schooling network here in Marble Falls that is highly successful, but it requires two or three days a week at a Christian Academy. They have a high number of scholarships to colleges and universities that are not bible colleges. These are mostly kids from higher income, well educated parents. So this is what could be, but isn't what is 90% of the time.

I think a lot of these morons are embarrassed by their lack of education and are playing it off. I've never heard the sorts of word salads these goofs make trying trying to sound smart and proudly under-educated from that many all at once before.

The reporter was taking his life in his hands, some of them were getting worked up over their inability to coherently speak.

paleotn

(18,416 posts)
12. Unschooling movement. Oh dear lord.
Sun May 12, 2024, 12:09 PM
May 12


Oh, that will certainly prepare them for jobs in a modern economy. If their preferred career is armed robber or burglar. No wonder they're so invariably into guns.
 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
20. Unschooling can work, done right
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:02 PM
May 12

It was the program I followed, because my son was more the 'deep dive' learner than breadth-not-depth.

He was doing advanced math, studying college-level marine biology (and driving me insane with trips to the beach for samples), spoke 3 foreign languages (one of them well enough to work as a translator for a small film company when he was 17), read Dostoevsky and Chaucer 'for fun,' is still a computer programming demon, and played four instruments credibly well before he was 15.

What had your kid learned by that age?

marble falls

(59,557 posts)
22. My son got his masters from George Washington University, my eldest daughter graduated St Edwards University ...
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:23 PM
May 12

... Summa Cum Laude and became a teacher (at Crocket HS, a school of about 80% immigrants and immigrant children, where she won an award for having 96% of her classes pass the the old TAAS testing), my youngest who had a job feeding the sharks at the aquarium in Corpus Christi, graduated from Texas A&M Summa Cum Laude and is an oceanic archeologist. Both girls attended the circus school in Evenston, Il, both were reading by kindergarten. I was also a custodial single father with my daughters. My son owns Blue Sky Bee Supply in Ravenna, Ohio.

I taught at a Montessori school in Akron, Ohio while I attended Akron U. I have a pretty good idea of how it works. Unschooling may be a good idea for a child who actually has the foundations required to delve into a subject, but I am afraid motivated children like yours and mine are exceptions not the rule.

I see the level of "home schooling" here in central Texas and I know how abysmal it can be. Totally abrogating responsibility for educating their children under the guise of "unschooling" is self serving rationalization for failure to keep up the goal of getting children educated.

My siblings consists of two lawyers, two teachers, a mechanical engineer (who got a lot of his education by unschooling but only after he got an education in mechanical design and became a production engineer in window factories in Iowa and Nebraska), a grocery store manager. All of our w kids with with only four kids out of 28 grandchildren have further education past high school.

My girls play piano, alto sax, flute, clarinet. So please. My maternal and paternal grandfather came bare foot off farms in Ohio and Kentucky (where two of my ancestors were governors, one was a senator and both were Congressmen) and further back there's a governor of North Carolina - he started Union Carbide and gave $120 million to the University of NC. One grandfather became a lead machinist with Goodyear Aerospace, the other an electrical engineer who became chief light and signal engineer for the Nickle Plate and then the Norfolk and Western Railroads. Education is paramount in my entire family.

I know personally valuable and important education is. At 73 I'm starting to take college classes again. Most kids are not going to be motivated to educate themselves when they have trouble motivating themselves of the couch and put electronic entertainment down and use it for educating themselves. I do have a nephew who supervises beta testing for an Austin gaming developer, but he got an education first.

You and I are exceptions.

Wonder Why

(3,789 posts)
3. Many people are uneducated or undereducated. Being proud of it makes one stupid. They will die that way.
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:48 AM
May 12

JohnnyRingo

(18,902 posts)
4. Sometimes a laugh at the man in the street interviews.
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:49 AM
May 12

When I'm done chuckling I feel fear for the country and what Fox News, News Max, and others have done to it.

I think many of those in the clip don't even believe network news. The keep up with current events from social media sites.

jaxexpat

(7,191 posts)
6. There's a sinister aspect to the arrogance of their ignorance. It is telling.
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:11 AM
May 12

They are cock-sure that the mainstream has been "infiltrated" and people have been mind-controlled by means and methods about which they have vague and, by any standard, lame explanations. They claim and rail on about an indoctrination that has been placed onto the non-believers in the public secretly, subconsciously and nefariously.

They never give a moment's care that the secret means and methods they're certain everybody else is controlled by could affect them. It's because they're emotionally cemented to a belief system, one wherein logic has no power. They believe in things unproven, unseen, unheard. They've fallen into the "faith" trap. The vortex of self-confirming echoes, propelled by their programming's suggestion to turn away from questions and doubt because doubt leads to denial and the threat of realization. It's so much easier to stay with their friends, huddled together in a self-perpetuating delusion where "others" can be blamed for all life's challenges and interminable adaptations.

They're a pretty pitiful lot who promise to be a problem for any government which, by definition, is totally dependent on the goodwill and majority support of its citizens.

dlk

(11,855 posts)
7. The: "I'm ignorant and proud of it" contingent
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:04 AM
May 12

It explains why they support someone as incompetent and slimy as Trump?

Woodwizard

(896 posts)
8. I know a guy that fits right in
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:27 AM
May 12

We were having a discussion about climate change which he does not believe in he called the scientists "Educated Idiots"

This was during Obama's time, he also told me how Obama was changing the constitution and setting up FEMA camps. I said really do you have more info on that? He sent me an article from weekly world news.......

I found the link https://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/35813/obama-to-write-new-u-s-constitution/

lees1975

(4,277 posts)
9. What's scary is how many of these buffoons there are in this country.
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:38 AM
May 12

Thank the public education system. State controlled school boards in Republican controlled states have produced this.

Skittles

(154,656 posts)
18. agreed
Sun May 12, 2024, 06:48 PM
May 12

we have all known idiots but to find out there's SO FUCKING MANY OF THEM.......it is very disturbing indeed

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
21. Some of them in blue areas have cranked out their own supply
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:13 PM
May 12

Of stupid.

I know it's hard to believe, but a great education can and does happen in red state schools. The best English instructor I ever had taught at a small-town high school in a red state. What she taught that one year made academic writing a breeze for me ever after, in every kind of school I attended, and that includes writing at the university level.

She was that good.

Yes, it's more likely for a blue area school to provide a better education--but it's not a guarantee. Namely how a blue district great school will be great for white kids. For the brown kids, the same great blue school district will often fail them just as badly as a school in a red state would.

So I wouldn't make blanket statements about education quality based on blue v, red state.

paleotn

(18,416 posts)
10. They're the mob as John Adams called them.
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:57 AM
May 12

People too stupid to realize what they don't know and trust the consensus of those who do. Jefferson may have embraced them too much and Adams derided them too much, but in my mind, they're the great tension in representative democracy and perhaps its greatest flaw. That is the strain between rational, educated thought vs universal suffrage for the unwashed mob who haven't a clue. Lincoln believed or at least hoped for the collective wisdom of voters. Seems sometimes that works but sometimes it doesn't and it only has to "doesn't" once and our Democracy is finished.

So, should the stupid, like the jackasses above, be allowed to vote? Honestly, I'm torn. Seems the older I get, the more I lean towards...."oh, hell no!"

not fooled

(5,854 posts)
15. Does this go on in other countries?
Sun May 12, 2024, 02:46 PM
May 12

I'm so sick of the glorification of stoopid here that I'm considering emigrating. Is it just as bad elsewhere?

GoneOffShore

(17,385 posts)
16. Time for a Terry Pratchett quote:
Sun May 12, 2024, 02:52 PM
May 12
.....Polly decided that she knew enough to be going on with. ‘The enemy wasn't men, or women, or the old, or even the dead. It was bleedin' stupid people, who came in all varieties. And no one had the right to be stupid.'

Sir Terry Pratchett - Monstrous Regiment

These people have the brains of a brick that failed out of brick school

B.See

(2,060 posts)
19. The Rapist in Chief said it himself: They LOVE the poorly educated, because
Sun May 12, 2024, 07:02 PM
May 12

Knowledge and Truth are "woke."

And IGNORANCE IS BLISS.

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