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riversedge

(70,654 posts)
Sat May 11, 2024, 10:57 AM May 11

NEWS -- Sen Sheldon Whitehouse tells me Dems are likely to investigate revelations about Trump soliciting $1 billion

Glad to see Whitehouse onto this.





NEWS --> Sen Sheldon Whitehouse tells me Dems are likely to investigate revelations about Trump soliciting $1 billion from Big Oil execs while corruptly vowing to fulfill their biggest policy demands.

This would be via the Budget Committee. 1/





“The phrase that instantly came to mind as I was reading the story was ‘quid pro quo,’” Sen Sheldon Whitehouse tells me about WaPo report on Trump's $1 billion Big Oil shakedown.

This would be extension of Budget Committee hearings into oil industry. 2/

https://newrepublic.com/article/181493







..................“This is practically an invitation to ask more questions,” Whitehouse told me, describing this as a “natural extension of the investigation already underway.”

There’s plenty to explore. As the Post reports, an oil company executive at the gathering, held at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort last month, complained about environmental regulations under the Biden administration. Then this happened:

Trump’s response stunned several of the executives in the room overlooking the ocean: You all are wealthy enough, he said, that you should raise $1 billion to return me to the White House. At the dinner, he vowed to immediately reverse dozens of President Biden’s environmental rules and policies and stop new ones from being enacted, according to people with knowledge of the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private conversation.

Giving $1 billion would be a “deal,” Trump said, because of the taxation and regulation they would avoid thanks to him, according to the people.


Obviously industries have long donated to politicians in both parties in hopes of governance that takes their interests into account, and they explicitly lobby for this as well. But in this case, Trump may have made detailed, concrete promises while simultaneously soliciting a precise amount in campaign contributions. .........................................


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NEWS -- Sen Sheldon Whitehouse tells me Dems are likely to investigate revelations about Trump soliciting $1 billion (Original Post) riversedge May 11 OP
Fabulous cally May 11 #1
He told us that he's so rich, nobody could corrupt him RainCaster May 11 #2
You can't empty a glass that's already empty. RandomNumbers May 11 #4
d45 appears to be et tu May 11 #8
Misquoted by all SupportSanity May 11 #12
Nobody could corrupt him Quanto Magnus May 11 #31
Still? 🤣 ShazzieB May 11 #39
"Quid pro Quo" should have crossed a bunch of minds when they heard what Trump said RandomNumbers May 11 #3
More to the point DENVERPOPS May 11 #17
I fear you are right, soldierant May 11 #38
Only naive fools would believe that NJCher May 11 #42
Thank you... Mr. Mustard 2023 May 12 #47
Curiously, the DOJ needs to be shown how it's done. C_U_L8R May 11 #5
THIS! KPN May 11 #9
Do that ASAP. dalton99a May 11 #6
Good! Hound the fucker ... and those who do his dirty work! KPN May 11 #7
I love Senator Whitehouse. Think. Again. May 11 #10
Same redqueen May 11 #13
Whitehouse 2028 for the White House Captain Zero May 11 #44
The oil bosses also know that environmental laws aren't the only thing at stake Uncle Joe May 11 #11
Much rather have Whitehouse going after the Don than the Don going after the White House. n/t Beartracks May 11 #14
Real government in action 101. 👏 dchill May 11 #15
Also: real Democratic leadership in action FakeNoose May 11 #27
I actually think that goes without saying! dchill May 11 #36
So Biden could just offer Trump a billion and a half SupportSanity May 11 #16
Time is fleeting. JanMichael May 11 #18
Basically Trump has no idea how to be successful without committing crimes. tanyev May 11 #19
I'm not a lawyer, but... ChazInAz May 11 #20
Even the oil barons know that Chump has no chance of winning FakeNoose May 11 #29
Given Trump is sewer scum agingdem May 11 #32
Doesn't matter Diraven May 11 #33
There needs to be serious consequences. LiberalFighter May 11 #21
That should drop his polling jayschool2013 May 11 #22
The word "corruption" has a bizarre meaning for them. raging moderate May 11 #28
Corruption means immigrants, Blacks, and LGBT+ DBoon May 11 #30
They'll think it's great! COL Mustard May 12 #46
KNR niyad May 11 #23
Teapot Dome Redux Geechie May 11 #24
Excellent Hekate May 11 #25
Do it, just do it, Sen Sheldon. republianmushroom May 11 #26
Oil Fascists at work again. Have they lost their billions in stipends? GreenWave May 11 #34
First pool about this --- $1.00 to join. How many years before Merrick Garland opens an investigation? 3Hotdogs May 11 #35
why isn't DOJ looknig into this? Takket May 11 #37
And the oil companies are the leading profiteers and main drivers of the inflation that we are fighting. mjvpi May 11 #40
Sick of the "perfect phone calls" and "no quid pro quo." This is fucking solicitation and bribery. LOCK HIM UP Evolve Dammit May 11 #41
If they gave him $$, nationalize them. Make it a financial death penalty to attempt to subvert us n,/t ArkansasDemocrat1 May 11 #43
x45 just can't keep his pie hole shut! COL Mustard May 12 #45

RandomNumbers

(17,669 posts)
4. You can't empty a glass that's already empty.
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:08 AM
May 11

Same thing with corrupting someone who's already 100% corrupt.

et tu

(1,040 posts)
8. d45 appears to be
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:23 AM
May 11

so corrupt that he doesn't realize or know what it is to be honest.
working for so long in the muddy waters of 'business' has him waterlogged
and stained for life- definitely a swamp critter~

SupportSanity

(265 posts)
12. Misquoted by all
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:47 AM
May 11

What he really said was he couldn’t be corrupted any more than he already was.

Whew! Glad we got that out of the way.

ShazzieB

(16,755 posts)
39. Still? 🤣
Sat May 11, 2024, 04:33 PM
May 11

The only people who ever believed that in the first place were MAGA moron Trump worshipers. So yeah, they may still believe it. The rest of us? Not so much!

RandomNumbers

(17,669 posts)
3. "Quid pro Quo" should have crossed a bunch of minds when they heard what Trump said
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:07 AM
May 11

I was thinking, can we go back to the time when you couldn't just say that stuff out loud at least?

Very thankful Whitehouse is pursuing this. Someone sure as hell should.

DENVERPOPS

(9,012 posts)
17. More to the point
Sat May 11, 2024, 12:16 PM
May 11

is that Trump and the Republicans are now saying it publicly, with no fear of prosecution especially during a presidential election year....That is even more than frightening, or should be, for all of the U.S. Citizens......

The only reason, they would be so blatant and flagrant about all their proclamations, is that they have already determined the outcome of the 2024 election will be Trump. What corrupt plans do they have lurking in the shadows to drop on the elections that will, by hook or by crook put Trump back in the White House.........I am also thinking that many down ballot Senate and House elections will be tampered with, allowing the Republicans complete Domination. With Trump, they will have the Executive Branch, They already have commandeered the Judicial Branch, and with control of the Legislative branch of government, they will have a 100% slam dunk. A perfect trifecta.... At that point, the voters will no longer matter for ever more. At that point, the Republican Party will be able to legally throw out Democracy, and the Constitution, and install a tyranny......


soldierant

(7,024 posts)
38. I fear you are right,
Sat May 11, 2024, 04:21 PM
May 11

but hope you are wrong. The only scenario I see in which you might be wrong would be if the media have gotten so slanted for Trump** that they don't believe that voters care. (And, sadly, many don't.)

NJCher

(35,912 posts)
42. Only naive fools would believe that
Sat May 11, 2024, 10:44 PM
May 11

Here we are on a thread discussing one of our most competent representatives and you paint a doomsday scenario that is a paragon of learned helplessness. Do you know what learned helplessness is? It's a term pioneered by Martin Seligman, a psychologist and professor at the University of PA. You really should read up on it because everything you just wrote is an example of it in practice.

I scoff when people say I should be terrified. I'm not about to jump into emotional mode and be "terrified." What the hell good is that going to do? Nope, I'm going to use my common sense and think it through, using the vast amount of reading I've done on the politics of this country over the past 23 years I've been on this board.

Now, using my common sense and looking at your post, my inclination is to tell you that you can never get into someone else's head and ascribe motive, such as you did in your first paragraph. You should have learned that in your first or second year college writing class. Your assuming a motive says more about you than it does trump and the republicans. It says to me you feel powerless.

Now I'd like to look at your points and refer to the facts.

You're saying they're so confident they're going to win that they're out saying crazy shit like give me a billion dollars and I'll trash all the environmental laws we've passed to date. I'll get rid of electric cars. Has it occurred to you that the reason they say stupid crap is that they might be desperate, not confident? Their fearless leader is in court, not campaigning. Meanwhile, Biden and the Democrats have, as of April 2024, accumulated $34,572,441. Republicans filed that they had $16,221,286. (FEC Form 3X)

That's less than half what the Democrats have. Yet according to you, they're going to win.

Where it's being spent is also important. Democratic party money is going for ads, public relations, forming coalitions with unions, etc. Republicans are bailing their guy out by paying his legal bills. Yeah, real effective. No voter wants to see their candidate in court for sleazy behavior like what we saw this week. This precludes spending money strategically. I even read that in Florida they have one person to work on that state. Yes, one person!!

Most ludicrous is your last two sentences. In your scenario they already have the House and the Senate. Well guess what: Their margin in the House is so pitiful their own speaker has to be bailed out by the Democrats.

And I won't even go into who is winning elections, the trend of which is Democratic, not Republican.

Your post makes no logical sense whatsoever, but it speaks to fear real well. Get out of emotional mode and look at the facts. The opposite of "learned helplessness" is self-efficacy. That is what representatives like Sheldon Whitehouse demonstrate. Not only is he confident and good at what he does, he enjoys it. Watch his face when he discusses what he's going to investigate or what actions he's going to take. He smiles and there is a twinkle in his eye. Now that is confidence and self-efficacy.



Mr. Mustard 2023

(129 posts)
47. Thank you...
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:37 AM
May 12

Since 2018, Dems have been winning nearly every election. The only time MAGA came out in force was January 6th and notice they didn't bring their "precious" machine guns?

Notice how the "oh so tough" white militias who've been training in woods for decades never show up? It's because they're paper tiger cowards.

The media lies to us about a horse race for eyeballs. They're now in the polling business, and notice how the polls no longer are accurate? It's because they want the horse race effect.

The Deadbeat Republicon declared there would be violence if he was arrested and then convicted for the E Jean Carroll trial. None happened.

I could go on, but won't because NJCher's explanation is far superior to mine.

Yes we must take their threats seriously, but those cowardly white boys and idiot fake Christians aren't going to do a damn thing.

KPN

(15,697 posts)
7. Good! Hound the fucker ... and those who do his dirty work!
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:22 AM
May 11

Hound them all the fucking way to their graves.

Captain Zero

(6,915 posts)
44. Whitehouse 2028 for the White House
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:37 PM
May 11

Let me be the first to say it.
He works like a laser beam if you ask me.

Uncle Joe

(58,695 posts)
11. The oil bosses also know that environmental laws aren't the only thing at stake
Sat May 11, 2024, 11:28 AM
May 11

Thanks for the thread riversedge

FakeNoose

(33,056 posts)
27. Also: real Democratic leadership in action
Sat May 11, 2024, 02:09 PM
May 11

... because the Repukes have no clue what the word "leadership" means.

SupportSanity

(265 posts)
16. So Biden could just offer Trump a billion and a half
Sat May 11, 2024, 12:11 PM
May 11

and we save the planet?

DEAL!


It’s amazing how many people without morals and shame there are.

Trump has found them all.

tanyev

(42,756 posts)
19. Basically Trump has no idea how to be successful without committing crimes.
Sat May 11, 2024, 12:36 PM
May 11

Nor has he ever wanted to learn. He would rather break every law on the books and then create a thin veneer of appearing to follow the rules.

ChazInAz

(2,592 posts)
20. I'm not a lawyer, but...
Sat May 11, 2024, 12:51 PM
May 11

Isn't that described as "soliciting a bribe"?
I have the impression that some people consider that to be kind of illegal.

FakeNoose

(33,056 posts)
29. Even the oil barons know that Chump has no chance of winning
Sat May 11, 2024, 02:13 PM
May 11

... they'd be stupid to give him a $ billion just to piss away on a loser like that.

agingdem

(7,894 posts)
32. Given Trump is sewer scum
Sat May 11, 2024, 02:29 PM
May 11

I think "soliciting a bribe" is beyond Trump's realm of comprehension...I do think he would understand "tit for tat"...

Diraven

(570 posts)
33. Doesn't matter
Sat May 11, 2024, 03:22 PM
May 11

Any prosecution would be years from now at best, and if Trump wins everyone will get a pardon.

LiberalFighter

(51,664 posts)
21. There needs to be serious consequences.
Sat May 11, 2024, 12:54 PM
May 11

Send him back in time to the Sanhedrin in Jerusalem and tell them he is Jesus.

jayschool2013

(2,325 posts)
22. That should drop his polling
Sat May 11, 2024, 01:35 PM
May 11

to around 5%.

But we now know that about 40% of the electorate is unmoved by genuine news of corruption.

raging moderate

(4,331 posts)
28. The word "corruption" has a bizarre meaning for them.
Sat May 11, 2024, 02:12 PM
May 11

They think they are the only real Americans, and the only real human beings. When they complain about "corruption," they are complaining about anything good happening to anybody who is not one of them.

DBoon

(22,460 posts)
30. Corruption means immigrants, Blacks, and LGBT+
Sat May 11, 2024, 02:18 PM
May 11

Corruption is anything that challenges the domination of white male christians..

Takket

(21,782 posts)
37. why isn't DOJ looknig into this?
Sat May 11, 2024, 04:01 PM
May 11

But seriously.... call all the execs before congress and ask them all under oath if drumpf bribed them.

Let's go

mjvpi

(1,449 posts)
40. And the oil companies are the leading profiteers and main drivers of the inflation that we are fighting.
Sat May 11, 2024, 07:51 PM
May 11

Not to mention their conscious driving of global warming. Evil scratching is own back. A Fascist circle jerk.

Evolve Dammit

(16,900 posts)
41. Sick of the "perfect phone calls" and "no quid pro quo." This is fucking solicitation and bribery. LOCK HIM UP
Sat May 11, 2024, 07:58 PM
May 11

COL Mustard

(6,036 posts)
45. x45 just can't keep his pie hole shut!
Sun May 12, 2024, 07:01 AM
May 12

He’s his own worst enemy, except for everyone else who wants him in prison!

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