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Funtatlaguy

(10,899 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 03:43 PM Apr 29

Nancy Pelosi slammed Katy Tur just now.

3:38pm eastern time Monday on MSNBC
They were discussing job creation and Tur defended Trumps job losses because of Covid
Nancy said “if you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, maybe that’s your role here”.
Tur said “I don’t think I’ve ever been accused of that”.

I laughed out loud.

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Nancy Pelosi slammed Katy Tur just now. (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Apr 29 OP
Burn! Ocelot II Apr 29 #1
She has been doing it constantly. Time to flush the "tur..." hlthe2b Apr 29 #2
Her both siderism is annoying. Glad Nancy called her out Funtatlaguy Apr 29 #3
I was riding my bike, gab13by13 Apr 29 #4
Doesn't she? I thought it was just me... Trueblue Texan Apr 29 #45
People on this board were accused of misogyny for saying as much a couple of weeks ago BeyondGeography Apr 29 #5
If the same commentator was a man I would still think the same about the tur(D). overleft Apr 29 #7
I find it really strange when a well deserved criticism of a female politician or a tv pundit equals misogyny. msfiddlestix Apr 29 #61
She needs to be on Fox montanacowboy Apr 29 #6
I wonder if she is nearing the end of her contract with MSNBC Prof. Toru Tanaka Apr 30 #80
Boom! Kingofalldems Apr 29 #8
You tell her Nancy BlueKota Apr 29 #9
I'm hoping one of our tech savvy posters has that interview on tape...? Deuxcents Apr 29 #10
Did it later, too kwijybo Apr 29 #11
Is Tur independent or is this her role on Comcast ( parent company of MSNBC)? jalan48 Apr 29 #12
I saw 2 minutes of the show and caught this moment Raven123 Apr 29 #13
Being "unprepared" is her schtick. dchill Apr 29 #28
She does seem to exist in a perpetual state of ennui. sop Apr 29 #31
Precisely! dchill Apr 29 #60
All good points Roy Rolling Apr 30 #68
She's like a cut-rate Andrea Mitchell NanaCat Apr 30 #84
And Trump put her life at risk when he would point at reporters and call them traitors (she was among them) world wide wally Apr 29 #14
video and: "Thank you for calling her out on air Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi" riversedge Apr 29 #15
Thank you for posting this.. Deuxcents Apr 29 #25
thank you - and that will leave a mark! FHRRK Apr 29 #26
Alicia Menendez nowforever Apr 29 #16
If Trump hadn't bungled the covid response R. P. McMurphy Apr 29 #17
Ms. Tur, there wasn't a global pandemic from 2017 to early 2020... LuckyCharms Apr 29 #18
Thank you. I was about to post that very thing. niyad Apr 29 #43
A record eight years and four months of monthly job gains -- dating to October 2010 -- ended February 2019, roughly a year Celerity Apr 30 #75
I wish we could slam her on social media so she and her bosses see it. LiberalFighter Apr 29 #19
she has always been Katy Turd to me. lapfog_1 Apr 29 #20
I believe? Though I don't currently have facts at hand ALBliberal Apr 29 #21
Katy Tur is part of TSF apologist line up on MSNBC. MontanaMama Apr 29 #22
I am a woman who thinks K. Tur should be fired Trueblue1968 Apr 29 #40
That turd got powned. nt miyazaki Apr 29 #23
Trump is incompetent in healthcare bmichaelh Apr 29 #24
Remember the election of 10 years ago? SleeplessinSoCal Apr 29 #59
Tur malaise Apr 29 #27
I find Chris Jansing much worse BaronChocula Apr 29 #29
She has all the live wires on her show such as John Kasich and Chuckie Todd. Bev54 Apr 29 #50
Word! BaronChocula Apr 29 #55
Turducken isn't less bad because someone else is bad NanaCat Apr 30 #85
With the don, it's always SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT. usonian Apr 29 #30
Katy Tur needs to go LetMyPeopleVote Apr 29 #32
Katy's got that "deer in headlights" look along with a forced "oh my god I don't want to be here" smile. CincyDem Apr 30 #77
Any number of advisors to Trump The Unmitigated Gall Apr 29 #33
Precisely, thank you. Mr. Mustard 2023 Apr 29 #41
When Dems, especially women speak the truth, they f..king can't handle it! PortTack Apr 29 #34
Good for Rebl2 Apr 29 #35
Yes indeed! Loved it! Catherine Vincent Apr 29 #36
Snap... rubbersole Apr 29 #37
Go Nancy! blue neen Apr 29 #38
K&R UTUSN Apr 29 #39
Gotta love Nancy! MOMFUDSKI Apr 29 #42
I refuse to watch Katy Tur and Andrea Mitchell. When they come on, I click off the TV. I read about it later iluvtennis Apr 29 #44
Same here Emile Apr 29 #56
Life is too short, am I right? dchill Apr 29 #64
I hope she... 2naSalit Apr 29 #46
I find Chris Jansing much worse BaronChocula Apr 29 #47
I also feel she's had some dental work done elias7 Apr 30 #72
Bad is bad NanaCat Apr 30 #86
I had it on in the background and didn't hear what Tur had said but I did hear Pelosi's answer Bev54 Apr 29 #48
I caught that exchange peggysue2 Apr 29 #49
Ways to contact NBC News calimary Apr 29 #51
Whether Turd knows it or not.. she has been accused of just that. Cha Apr 29 #52
I'd bet money that Faux pas Apr 29 #53
It would be nice if one of the other hosts slam Katy. LiberalFighter Apr 29 #54
Mismanagement of COVID was the reason for mzmolly Apr 29 #57
The economy was already headed for recession kwijybo Apr 29 #66
Agree. mzmolly Apr 29 #67
We were NOT headed into a recession in '19 by pretty much any metric normally used oldsoftie Apr 30 #70
Maybe I misheard kwijybo Apr 30 #76
Going by what we usually go by, it was fairly steady. oldsoftie Apr 30 #82
I used to like her and lately she seems quite RW. Not always, but enough to notice a change Evolve Dammit Apr 29 #58
Nancy Is Right CitizenZero Apr 29 #62
Agreed. And it's sad because trump has put Tur at risk multiple times ecstatic Apr 29 #63
Sheesh BigDemVoter Apr 29 #65
Pelosi speaking the truth. We need to keep reminding paulrevere2018 Apr 30 #69
If he takes credit for $2 gas, then he gets blame for millions of lost jobs too oldsoftie Apr 30 #71
Ha, the Tur secret has been exposed for all to see. lark Apr 30 #73
Plus, job creation for trump was sub-par right before the Pandemic struck wolfie001 Apr 30 #74
KatyPox StFrancis1 Apr 30 #78
I'm not following this ScratchCat Apr 30 #79
Post removed Post removed Apr 30 #81
Kick TY Cha Apr 30 #83
Not Just Tur sunshine superman May 6 #87

gab13by13

(21,517 posts)
4. I was riding my bike,
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 03:48 PM
Apr 29

grabbed the remote, turned on msnbc getting TV ready for Nicolle, heard Turd interrupt Nancy twice in a row, turned the channel to Ancient Aliens.

I don't put myself through that shit. Katy Tur doesn't know if she is punched or bored.

Trueblue Texan

(2,454 posts)
45. Doesn't she? I thought it was just me...
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:17 PM
Apr 29

I've been noticing she seems rather blind to the BS on the right.

BeyondGeography

(39,400 posts)
5. People on this board were accused of misogyny for saying as much a couple of weeks ago
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 03:48 PM
Apr 29

Ergo, many thanks, Speaker Emerita.

msfiddlestix

(7,289 posts)
61. I find it really strange when a well deserved criticism of a female politician or a tv pundit equals misogyny.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:49 PM
Apr 29

but the cognitive dissonance manifests similarly in several other contexts as well.
I finally learned to just shake my head and move on. most of the time.

kwijybo

(243 posts)
11. Did it later, too
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:09 PM
Apr 29

They were discussing the proposed National Abortion Ban, and Tur commented something about "Trump said he'd never support such a thing".

Pelosi looked at her with disdain, and said something like, "And you believe anything he has to say"

The quotes are as best as I could get. I was too busy laughing at her. The look on Pelosi's face... If anyone can get the exact quotes, please do

Raven123

(4,962 posts)
13. I saw 2 minutes of the show and caught this moment
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:19 PM
Apr 29

Thank goodness for Pelosi. Quick response. Knew exactly with whom she was dealing. I rarely watch Tur. One of the most unprepared broadcasters on the network, IMO. Seems lime she ad libs the entire show.

dchill

(38,643 posts)
28. Being "unprepared" is her schtick.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:01 PM
Apr 29

It seems like nothing she's reporting is worth being prepared for. She acts like it's all so inconsequential, and she's SOOOO bored by it.

Roy Rolling

(6,947 posts)
68. All good points
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 04:50 AM
Apr 30

There was something about her style that was “fingernails on chalkboard” as the old analogy said before whiteboards.

You all pointed my uncomfort—her “brand” is that she is giggly aloof from the serious subject she’s reporting on. The fake smile and clueless persona is straight out of the movies and totally inappropriate for television journalists.

Her whole act is demonstrating how insignificant the subject matter is. I can’t watch someone as unserious as that and immediately tune her out. That can’t be good for sponsors who expect me to tolerate her, and hang around long enough just to sample their wares.

riversedge

(70,488 posts)
15. video and: "Thank you for calling her out on air Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi"
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:23 PM
Apr 29

Pelosi is animated today.




PELOSI: Trump has the worst record of jobs loss of any president

KATY TUR: There was a global pandemic

PELOSI: He had the worst record of any president. If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role





@ShePersisted001
@MSNBC

@KatyTurNBC

@NBCNews

@nbc

Trump apologist Katy Tur needs to go work for Fox News. Thank you for calling her out on air Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi. #DumpKatyTur #FireKatyTur #EnoughIsEnough





FHRRK

(536 posts)
26. thank you - and that will leave a mark!
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:58 PM
Apr 29

And criticism of Tur(d) is not misogonist. She is angling for the Welker gig, she deserves to be called out.

nowforever

(321 posts)
16. Alicia Menendez
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:29 PM
Apr 29

would be the perfect replacement. Tur is always looking for dirt under the Democrats rug but never sees the GOP's mounds of TURd.

LuckyCharms

(17,480 posts)
18. Ms. Tur, there wasn't a global pandemic from 2017 to early 2020...
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:33 PM
Apr 29

the majority of Trump's term.

Jesus Christ.

Celerity

(43,829 posts)
75. A record eight years and four months of monthly job gains -- dating to October 2010 -- ended February 2019, roughly a year
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 09:23 AM
Apr 30
before the pandemic. The U.S. lost 50,000 jobs that month. The U.S. would go on to add 2 million jobs in 2019, but that was the lowest annual growth since 2010.

And then the novel coronavirus struck. In two months, March and April 2020, the U.S. economy lost a staggering 22.4 million jobs.

Most of those jobs (56%) would return before Trump left office. But he ended his presidency with an economy that had 2.9 million fewer jobs than when he started — becoming the first president in modern times to experience a net loss of jobs over his time in office, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which has monthly employment figures dating to 1939.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/

lapfog_1

(29,246 posts)
20. she has always been Katy Turd to me.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:36 PM
Apr 29

at least 50% of the "leftists" on MSNBC are actually apologists for the Trumpist GOP ( they are sooo misunderstood! We should be sympathetic to their ignorant racist attitudes because they are REAL AMERICANS(tm) living in BUMFUCK midwest unlike you coastal elites eating un american things like sushi or Ethiopian or something.

And just when you THINK they got rid of some of the worst... There is ChuckTodd or Tweety bloviating about something.

ALBliberal

(2,364 posts)
21. I believe? Though I don't currently have facts at hand
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:39 PM
Apr 29

that his job record was abysmal going into the pandemic!

MontanaMama

(23,369 posts)
22. Katy Tur is part of TSF apologist line up on MSNBC.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:43 PM
Apr 29

If the truth offends you, Katy, by all means avoid it.

bmichaelh

(403 posts)
24. Trump is incompetent in healthcare
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:50 PM
Apr 29

Some in the media are giving Trump a pass on COVID because they regard it as a unique event.

There are multiple reasons that is not a valid argument.

Experts believe 40% died due to Trump's response
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy

We should be proactive and not consider COVID as a once in a lifetime event.

2 years before COVID, Trump was ready to kick millions off health insurance when he attempted to repeal ACA.

There is a pattern here.
When it comes to healthcare, Trump is grossly incompetent.

I was first diagnosed with lymphoma some 35 years ago.
I am currently on my third remission, a remission I would not have achieved if ACA had been repealed; it provides me protection against lifetime limits.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,203 posts)
59. Remember the election of 10 years ago?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:23 PM
Apr 29

2014, Repubs screamed EBOLA!!!! after one American death. Obama put into action a stop it where it is action that prevented a global disaster. But frustratingly they took the Senate and prevented Obama from having a 3rd SCOTUS seat. During the beginning of Covid TSF just played with numbers, facts, science and our mental as well as physical health because he is ASF.

BaronChocula

(1,651 posts)
29. I find Chris Jansing much worse
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:18 PM
Apr 29

She may just be a victim of producers' prerogatives, but her show is less NEWS (new items to report) than it is constant repetition of what's reflected in polls (Biden's old, INFLATION, INFLATION, INFLATION, crime). Of course these polls simply report the perceptions held largely by an oblivious population that unwittingly repeats narratives that began as fox new chyron.

She once had pollster Cornell Belcher on and he is very good at warning that polls are merely snapshots that give campaigns information on where they need to work. Jansing went on and on questioning Biden's chances given all this INFLATION. Belcher then informed her that in 1984 Reagan who had been given a slim chance at reelection given the recession that cast a pall over his first term came out with his Morning in America ads and went on to win in a landslide. Then know-nothing Jansing challenged the pollster with "but you can't tell people how they feel."

I was livid. Her contention was way out of line. Of course you can tell people how they feel. Fox News does it very well. Telling people how they feel is the job of propaganda. She's a complete and utter idiot that repeats Andrea Mitchellesque sayings for no reason. But I still turn her on in the morning. I guess I like to have something to complain about.

Bev54

(10,100 posts)
50. She has all the live wires on her show such as John Kasich and Chuckie Todd.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:53 PM
Apr 29

Never watch her at all anymore, it is in wonderment, how she manages to get 2 hours and they let Mehdi Hasan go because he actually can call out BS.

CincyDem

(6,421 posts)
77. Katy's got that "deer in headlights" look along with a forced "oh my god I don't want to be here" smile.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 10:11 AM
Apr 30

If she’s not thinking “oh my god, I just got called out by one of the most powerful leaders in our country”, then she’s dumber than that look on her face.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,840 posts)
33. Any number of advisors to Trump
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:37 PM
Apr 29

Would have told him that a pandemic would be bad for jobs and the economy. And the Rapist ignored those warnings. So yes, Katy, those job losses can be laid at his door, given his wretched response to Covid.

Mr. Mustard 2023

(122 posts)
41. Precisely, thank you.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:08 PM
Apr 29

The Deadbeat lied of course while braying "It's a Democ-"rat" hoax". Then ignored the first months of the pandemic, which are the crucial months - of course - as you all know.

The Deadbeat Rapist decided to get political with Covid. Why isn't Tur and most Americans outraged?

Social media and the Republicon hate machine are seriously damaging our society.

Rebl2

(13,624 posts)
35. Good for
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:50 PM
Apr 29

Nancy! Tur is nothing more than a Trump promoter anymore. Quit watching her a couple years ago.

Catherine Vincent

(34,491 posts)
36. Yes indeed! Loved it!
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:55 PM
Apr 29

Just saw the video on Twitter and she is right. Tur is an apologist for that crooked man.

blue neen

(12,336 posts)
38. Go Nancy!
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:59 PM
Apr 29

Katie knows exactly what she's doing and saying. It's past time for calling out the media and their bullshit!

MOMFUDSKI

(5,832 posts)
42. Gotta love Nancy!
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:09 PM
Apr 29

Nancy’s daughter said she could cut your head off and you wouldn’t even know you were bleeding.

iluvtennis

(19,914 posts)
44. I refuse to watch Katy Tur and Andrea Mitchell. When they come on, I click off the TV. I read about it later
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:12 PM
Apr 29

Last edited Mon Apr 29, 2024, 07:45 PM - Edit history (1)

though and am overjoyed that Pelosi called out Tur.

BaronChocula

(1,651 posts)
47. I find Chris Jansing much worse
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:20 PM
Apr 29

She may just be a victim of producers' prerogatives, but her show is less NEWS (new items to report) than it is constant repetition of what's reflected in polls (Biden's old, INFLATION, INFLATION, INFLATION, crime). Of course these polls simply report the perceptions held largely by an oblivious population that unwittingly repeats narratives that began as fox new chyron.

She once had pollster Cornell Belcher on and he is very good at warning that polls are merely snapshots that give campaigns information on where they need to work. Jansing went on and on questioning Biden's chances given all this INFLATION. Belcher then informed her that in 1984 Reagan who had been given a slim chance at reelection given the recession that cast a pall over his first term came out with his Morning in America ads and went on to win in a landslide. Then know-nothing Jansing challenged the pollster with "but you can't tell people how they feel."

I was livid. Her contention was way out of line. Of course you can tell people how they feel. Fox News does it very well. Telling people how they feel is the job of propaganda. She's a complete and utter idiot that repeats Andrea Mitchellesque sayings for no reason. But I still turn her on in the morning. I guess I like to have something to complain about.

elias7

(4,039 posts)
72. I also feel she's had some dental work done
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 08:00 AM
Apr 30

Her S’s are often Th’ed as if she is adjusting to some sort of alteration. It drives me nuts.

Bev54

(10,100 posts)
48. I had it on in the background and didn't hear what Tur had said but I did hear Pelosi's answer
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:45 PM
Apr 29

I almost gave her an ovation. Tur has been a both sides, on the fence, dumb ass on so many issues.

peggysue2

(10,854 posts)
49. I caught that exchange
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:47 PM
Apr 29

The look on Nancy Pelosi's face? Priceless. I thought she was ready to reach over and throttle Tur.

A perfect example of the media running defense for Agent Orange.

mzmolly

(51,019 posts)
57. Mismanagement of COVID was the reason for
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 07:52 PM
Apr 29

mass job loss.

Trump could have prevented many deaths and the loss of several jobs.

kwijybo

(243 posts)
66. The economy was already headed for recession
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:24 PM
Apr 29

before COVID, which only made it worse.

Trump caused the recession, then made it worse by mishandling COVID.

oldsoftie

(12,682 posts)
70. We were NOT headed into a recession in '19 by pretty much any metric normally used
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 06:53 AM
Apr 30

Trumps inaction/incompetence on Covid certainly plunged us into one

oldsoftie

(12,682 posts)
82. Going by what we usually go by, it was fairly steady.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 01:55 PM
Apr 30

GDP all 4 qtrs of '19 were about the same & unemployment remained low.
But interest rates shouldve been raised in '18 which wouldve slowed it some. But trump pressured the fed NOT to raise because he wanted unfettered growth for his reelection. Which is why he lied about Covid; he actually thought he could talk the economy into staying stable. Showing how stupid he is

CitizenZero

(538 posts)
62. Nancy Is Right
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:00 PM
Apr 29

I am so glad that she resigned as Speaker and let Jefferies take over. She is such a smart politician and remains relevant as Speaker Emeritus. I sometimes wish that other politicians were that wise. We need to pass the torch to a new generation of leaders. Nancy has done this and yet remains effective as a senior member of the House and the Party. She can advise and support younger Party members and leaders like Jefferies. You can have both the new leaders and guidance from the older, more senior politicians as well. She has made so many smart moves. She continues to be relevant.

ecstatic

(32,814 posts)
63. Agreed. And it's sad because trump has put Tur at risk multiple times
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:26 PM
Apr 29

but since Tur's a dingbat, she's still doing exactly what Pres Biden warned about the other day. It's still a game to her, despite everything she's seen up close. SMH.

paulrevere2018

(16 posts)
69. Pelosi speaking the truth. We need to keep reminding
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 06:06 AM
Apr 30

Folks that under tfg, the US Covid performance, in almost every category, was worse than the other G20 countries. Including unemployment.

lark

(23,207 posts)
73. Ha, the Tur secret has been exposed for all to see.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 08:32 AM
Apr 30

I thought it was just me until the flurry of posts recently. When she's on, I find something else to do without going far because Nicole is on next and she is "must see" for me.

wolfie001

(2,324 posts)
74. Plus, job creation for trump was sub-par right before the Pandemic struck
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 09:03 AM
Apr 30

It's always that way when repukes are in charge. Tur was presenting a false canard. Pelosi was right to call her out. Tur was pushing a RW talking point, period.

StFrancis1

(7 posts)
78. KatyPox
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 10:50 AM
Apr 30

Just when KatyTur was sure all her "fitting in" angst would be solved with her sudden TrumpStockholmSyndrome... SpeakerEmeritusNance gave her a taste of what the smart kids' table looks like.

ScratchCat

(2,025 posts)
79. I'm not following this
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 11:07 AM
Apr 30

No country went unaffected by Covid.

Without Covid, there would not have been a huge job loss during Trump's last term. This isn't "defending" Trump, its a simple fact. Hell, most people agree Trump would have likely won re-election if not for Covid.

The only thing that would have resulted in fewer deaths would have been a China-style lockdown, which would have resulted in exponentially more jobs being lost. Then Trump would be blamed for that.

Democrats trying to compare "job losses due to Covid in Trump's fourth year" to a Covid-free four years of Biden makes no sense and is grasping. Say what you will about Katie Tur, but all she did was state a fact that makes trying to compare economies during Trump year 4 vs All Four Years of Biden silly at best.

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

87. Not Just Tur
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:34 AM
May 6

The so-called main stream media all seem to have an aversion to calling Trump out for what he is. Every day he says something anti-democratic, racist or just an outright lie and it get's reported as a fact.

The right floods the news aggregators with this type of coverage attempting to lead people to believe that Trump's point of view is no less valid than Biden's while the response from the supposedly 'responsible' media is to downplay the risk Trump poses to the nation.
The same thing happened in 2016 when Trump's grandiose promises were reported as 'news' while no one mentioned they were impossible to fulfill. Sure, better health care and cheaper, too. And the plan is always only 2 weeks away.

The press is being irresponsible, once again.

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