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(1,487 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:00 PM Apr 28

I didn't leave America because of Trump and his cultists

Last edited Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)

I left because that was my wife's and my long-term plan. She is Filipina and her family are land wealthy in the Central Philippines. We got married late in life, both childless. I am now 71 and she is 68.

I worked and lived in the USA all of my life, up to 2 years ago when I retired at 70. My wife and I were married 20 years in the USA and now 2 years here on a tropical island.

Even though I didn't leave because of Trump, it has been a residual effect of our move. To be accurate, I spend 50 weeks in the Philippines and 2 weeks in the USA, usually April in order to get a medical and dental check up and do my taxes.

Whether or not Trump returns to the White House, everyone at DU knows there are far too many Trump cultists in America. It is now acceptable to spew hate and racism for a large portion of the American population. And far too many young people and minorities don't see the danger.

A Trump presidency puts me and wife at little risk. I am a white male, we both have Social Security and pensions, and we don't even spend much time in the US. She has dual citizenship, and I am a 13a visa holder in the Philippines (kinda like a green card). But there is only one worry I have in the world. Trump returning to the White House. I do what I can from here. I post here on DU. I donate money to the Biden campaign and vote with overseas ballots. But I still worry about my country. I am still an American citizen. Please, America, don't give up the world's oldest living Democracy.

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(21,884 posts)
1. A long time friend who is a white male married to a Filipina woman also
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:13 PM
Apr 28

And she wants to move back to the Philippines and he’s nervous about going, he went for a visit and hated it but now says his wife’s happiness is more important so he’s making the move. But I don’t think her family is wealthy. I told him to not sell his home and live there part of the year and then back here in the states.


(1,487 posts)
2. I'm in Iloilo Province
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:27 PM
Apr 28

My wife's family owns a 25-acre residential and rice/poultry farm. My situation is way different. My 4 grandparents hailed from Southern Italy, so my skin acclimates to the sun nicely. I love a tropical climate and I put in a built-in pool. My house is air conditioned, and I have a new, small pickup truck. My nephew is my driver. I have a driver's license here, but I never drive. I receive far more money each month than I spend. I would need 10 times my income to live in the US the way I live here.

I'm not saying this is for everyone. But it is perfect for me.


(28,952 posts)
3. I wish.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:00 PM
Apr 28

I do have children. I think about leaving if worst comes to worst but I can't leave them, and they're not leaving. only time will tell what happens.


(82,604 posts)
6. Thanks, Pototan!
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:49 PM
Apr 28

Thank you for checking in, and thank you also for keeping the faith, and the vigil, with us. It’s noticed and GREATLY appreciated!


(2,572 posts)
7. My father was due to be transferred to the Philippines in 1962.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:51 PM
Apr 28

He had requested Hawaii. But it was cover to send him on foot, he was a combat pilot, into Laos to watch and report movement on the yet to be named Ho Chi Minh trail. Radios weren’t light in those days.
Luckily he was able to pull strings and be transferred to protecting the free world in West Germany. So I missed the opportunity to live in the Philippines. Best of luck.


(1,487 posts)
15. I've been fighting since 1968
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 03:48 AM
Apr 29

I'm 71 years old and my wife is 68. If America doesn't get it yet, there's nothing more I can do. 55 years is enough.


(23,657 posts)
9. I spent quite a bit of time in the Philippines, and love the people, the culture and the food. But as Duerte
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:23 PM
Apr 28

demonstrated, the political system is very unpredictable, and Trumpism, or Authoritarianism, easily takes hold. I wish you and your family the best of luck.


(145 posts)
10. I was in the PI .. a GI in the PI as we said.. Clark AFB
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:47 PM
Apr 28

Quite proud of my service in bringing food to starving people isolated by huge couple of typhoons stalled off the coast in 72...

Got this summary on line...

The 1972 Philippine floods, also known as "The Great Philippine Floods of 1972", were the most destructive and extensive floods in the Philippines since 1867. The floods were caused by four consecutive typhoons, Edeng, Gloring, Isang, and Huaning, that hit parts of Luzon for about a month in July and August 1972. The floods affected 11 provinces, 10 cities, 152 towns, and 1,608 barrios, and left 653 people dead, 370,647 homeless, and over 2.4 million directly affected. The floods also caused over 7,000 hospitalizations for flood-related illnesses like bronchitis, influenza, gastroenteritis, and pneumonia.

I was there when Marcos arrested his opponents and made himself dictator..

I remember all the radio and TV stations were off the air except the ones owned by his family .. and they signed off each evening saying "Wishing you a peaceful evening in The New Society"

I think of this when I think of Trump. Same playbook as Trump.. Find a problem.. blow it up to massive proportions and hold yourself out as the only one who can solve it

Yes, it can happen here and plenty of Americans who call themselves Patriots would welcome a Trump dictatorship.. I am sure the Orange Jesus would say the dictatorship was just temporary..
Marcos said the same..He took over in 72. His rule lasted for 14 years..


(1,487 posts)
11. the Philippines wrote a new constitution in 1987
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:58 PM
Apr 28

exactly 200 years after the signing of the US Constitution. It mirrors the American's, but some very effective changes.

The President is elected to a single six-year term and he or she is elected by popular vote. My one criticism of this provision is that there is no run-off, leaving the country open to a 38% president. But still, the most votes wins.

The supreme court is age limited.

The House is elected by region and the Senate is at large. 24 Senators elected for six-year terms, staggered so that 12 Senators run every 3 years.

Gun regulations are written into the Constitution. Must be over 21, no assault weapons, must pass a safety course and every legal gun is registered, and every owner licensed. It's actually the most lenient gun laws in all of Asia, but it is a little stricter than Massachusetts, which is considered among the strictest gun laws in America. Oh, and by the way, there has never been a mass shooting at a school in the Philippines that I know of.


(1,487 posts)
12. And please don't judge the current President by his father
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 10:03 PM
Apr 28

I was apprehensive about Ferdianand Marcos Jr. being elected President of the Philippines. But, to my pleasant surprise so far, he has been quite good. He has supported press freedom, has followed the rule of law, has solidified ties with America and has visited the Biden White House twice, with both Presidents praising each other.

Marcos Jr. seems as much like his father as Ronald Reagan Jr. and RFK Jr. are like theirs's


(507 posts)
13. Yeah but you have to deal with abysmal politics in the Philippines.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 10:14 PM
Apr 28

Seems like the electorate there is just as idiotic as in the US and loves their dictators and strongmen. Either that or their news and media is heavily influencing people's opinions like in the states. Electing Duterte and then Marcos right after! can't even imagine. Everyone must have forgotten how terrible the first Marcos was. It seems at least Jr wants to have a better relationship with the US so that's a positive, but I don't know much else..


(1,487 posts)
14. I don't think so
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:22 PM
Apr 28

Marcos Jr. has been a very good leader and ally to Biden and America. Duterte was a problem, but I didn't have to deal with him. He's out now and no friend of the current administration.

I can promise you one thing. There will never be a convicted rapist as a front runner for President of the Philippines.

Oh, and there has never been a mass school shooting in the Philippines.

By the way, in the international ranking of Democracies, both the USA and the Philippines are listed as "flawed Democracies". So, they are both ranked about the same, but I'd rather the country with fewer racists.

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