The Big Picture is never acknowledged

[senseandsensibility]

even from the left. The Big Picture, staring us all in the face, bold and undeniable among the thousands of tidbits and dates and data, is that cheato lied and cheated to win the 2016 election. Hillary was robbed. We're not even supposed to think that, let alone say it.

In addition, he was only able to do it because voters in red states believe insane crap on the cover of a tabloid and have no critical thinking skills.

Sorry if I'm being politically incorrect. No, actually, I'm not sorry.

[pfitz59]

1. The news was flooded with pro-Trump, anti-Hilary bullshit.

The internet was jam packed with Russian troll farm propaganda. The FBI and DOJ dropped bombs whenever it looked like Hilary was taking the lead. Trump was and is the train-wreck no one can look away from.

[Arne]

2. Same same for Bush.

[japple]

11. Yes, I believe they cheated Al Gore and John Kerry and, of course Hillary Clinton. Just imagine

the progress that we would've seen with any of those fine candidates. WE WERE ROBBED!!!

[KPN]

19. And big money drives all of it. Greed and the lust for power

undergird each and every one of those election losses.

[B.See]

24. Thom Hartmann certainly believes so

Why Has America Tolerated Six Illegitimate GOP Presidents?
“Power at any cost” has been the Republican slogan ever since Nixon’s attempts to assassinate Castro in 1960 to beat JFK in that year’s election…

[geardaddy]

48. Thank you for sharing this!

[slightlv]

45. Absolutely believe this!

Just imagine how different our world would be if Gore had been allowed to "have" his win. It only proves that Republicans cheat, any way, any where, any how they possibly can.

It's not for nothing that Republicans haven't won the popular vote of the Presidency in decades. You want cheating? Find a way around the electoral college... that outdated institution... betraying the American people.

There are so many things that need to be changed in our government institutions. So much greed and graft and corruption that needs to be weeded out and replaced by institutions which actually serve us. But inertia is what propels us forward into the morass. It's easier to turn our heads than to do the hard work of firing those that need to be fired and remaking the departments into what they should be for us. We, the people, have not only been forgotten... we've been cast aside as anything more than a hindrance to them.

[Johonny]

3. It turns out the media was not very unfair

To Trump. The media was very unfair to Hillary and did Trump favors.

[Irish_Dem]

4. This has been obvious for some time.

I agree 100%.

The real story is that Trump stole the 2016 election from Hillary.

I don't know why no one else is talking about it.

[senseandsensibility]

5. They've so succeeded in dehumanizing her

that her rights are completely unrecognized. By anyone. It's really something.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Yes. The PutinGOP gaslighting/propaganda has been very successful.

No one seems to be able to add 2+2 and get 4 anymore.

The truth is staring us in the face.
Trump just didn't cheat with the NE.
There was more, a lot more.

He didn't win by much, some votes in a few swing states.
All he needed was the FBI, and the media to help him along.

[onecaliberal]

15. She isn't a man.

[Irish_Dem]

17. I think you nailed it.

[onecaliberal]

18. What the men in this country think about women has been on full display. Currency and clumps of cells have more rights.

They are busy codifying state sanctioned murder of pregnant women with complications because these stupid motherfuckers can't figure out that when the mother dies in this situation, the fetus dies as well if it was even ever viable. I'm so sick on so many levels.

[Irish_Dem]

20. Women must be taught their place.

It is not about abortion. Most GOP men couldn't care less about abortion.
Their wives, girlfriends, daughters get them on demand.

It is about male supremacy and making women second class citizens.
It is about power and control.

They will kill as many women as it takes to get what they want.

[onecaliberal]

27. There are MORE OF US. And we ARE coming for their jobs.

[Irish_Dem]

35. I sincerely hope so. Time to fight back and fight back hard.

[Sky Jewels]

36. A big percentage of men seem to despise women for merely existing.

The selfishness, entitlement, and overriding urge to control and oppress females are truly astonishing.

Patriarchal Christian institutions like the Catholic Church have been particularly egregious examples of organizations that push male supremacy above all else. The RCC has conducted a reign of terror against women for centuries, and those efforts continue unabated. [Why any woman would continue to go along with that bullshit and keep putting her butt in the pew and her dollar in the collection plate is beyond me, but that's another issue.] Most of the SCOTUS assholes who overturned Roe are Opus Die nutjobs. Baptists, Mormons, etc. also treat women like shit. Islam is another egregious women-despising-and-oppressing institution, but its influence on the U.S. is obviously much less than the Christian mythologies. All of these dumb Bronze/Iron Age fictions give the good roles exclusively to male characters (God, Jesus, Muhammad, etc.). Only supernatural beings that have a penis are said to have any real power or magical abilities.

My opinion of the male gender as a whole, as an abstract generality ... well, I won't even say it. I know it's "not all men." But it's a shitload of them.

[onecaliberal]

37. Shame on women who don't hold them accountable. It is time to understand they want to kill us all.

they want to go back to when we could not vote. It's time to know where the men in our lives stand and proceed accordingly with that knowledge.

[Irish_Dem]

39. Yes

Yes the rapes, assaults, murders of women are typically done by males.
And often in the name of religion if you look at the world wide attacks.

And men have held most of the power since humans came into existence.

Yes being born with a penis does seem to give all kinds of powers.

[NJCher]

7. If he's found guilty

I intend to go to the Supreme Court return desk and get decisions re-heard and 3 justices off the bench.

[Cha]

8. Jill Stein's LIES in the Swing Stares that Hillary and TSF were the same

helped get Fascism into our WH.

[Biophilic]

10. Truly. I almost bought them, to my chagrin. Nt

[Cha]

12. "Almost" is the Key word here...

Thank You!

[DENVERPOPS]

21. I loved

the pictures of her after the election, dining with all the Uber Russian Oligarchs, Russian Politicians.......

She was a Russian Asset and planted by Putin to split the votes with Hillary......

[Cha]

25. Yeah, and of course denying it like the good little

Russian pos asset she was.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

22. Nader said the same in 2000 about Gore and Bush

A couple years later Nader was at a Cisco Systems shareholders meeting complaining that the dividends weren't high enough.

[Cha]

30. RF Assholes in the Annals of History.. this year it''s

Bob RF Jr and Cornel West.

[B.See]

23. Personally I've always believed she was a plant

Just like some of these third, fourth, fifth, etc. party bozos running now.

[Cha]

32. I think so.. Stein cares not one Whiff for Democracy while

she spreads her Lies around for money.

[NanaCat]

40. So did the lies about her from the Bernbots

And other unicorn 'progressives' like Cornell West, Susan Sarandon and Nina Turner.

[skydive forever]

9. Yep, and he got

3 supreme court justices.

[flashman13]

13. Don't forget Ronny Reagun screwed Carter behind his back.

[onecaliberal]

14. It is by some of us. Some people like to be the boiling frogs I guess.

[dupagelib]

16. Racism

Racism Racism Racism, oh Anti-feminism too.

[lostnfound]

26. Hillary WASN'T robbed. The American people were robbed.

It’s not about whether she goes down in the history books. It’s about whether we and our children live and breathe in a democracy.
And about whether the thousands of people who died of COVID might still be alive, were he not president.
And about whether he gave our enemies the upper hand in the world balance of powers.

[senseandsensibility]

28. I think Hillary symbolizes the people since

more people voted for her. Of course it's not just about her or her ego.

[lostnfound]

41. I don't mean to nitpick. In 2000 the narrative was Al Gore was a whiner..

The complete discounting of the rights of US citizenry to a democracy is a pet peeve.
Collectively as voters we have ‘no standing’.
The GOP painted Gore as just being a whiner, and the media made it all about two personalities in a horse race.

Our role as citizens and voters had a life in the public imagination in the 1970s which has been systematically disempowered.
Our role as consumers has taken its place.

[GoreWon2000]

49. Media put its anti-democracy view on full display is 2000!

As Al Gore fought to have the uncounted Florida votes counted as Florida election law clearly required in 2000, the pro W media put its anti democracy view on full display. Never mind that several hundred thousand legally cast ballots located in the largest and most heavily democratic voting counties in Florida had not been counted and still sit uncounted in the Florida archives to this day. The pro W media made it very clear that they didn't care that these many thousands of pivotal votes hadn't been counted and that the GOP controlled SCOTUS had installed the wrong person in the White House. With W illegally installed in the White House, the big corporations that own the media were going to get their big tax cuts and make huge profits from all of the campaign ads that campaigns would be forced to fundraise for and run with no campaign finance reforms and that's exactly what's happened. Now our country teeters on the verge of a dictatorship because of it.

[senseandsensibility]

50. We should have protested more at the time

Welcome to DU!

[c-rational]

29. +1

[LeftInTX]

43. Exactly!!

[hay rick]

31. "President Trump" would not be a possibility in a country with a majority of informed and responsible citizens.

[PortTack]

33. Some may think it's politically incorrect....truth is they can't face the reality of the situation!

[aggiesal]

34. Your new name should be Insensed & Insensibility n/t

[soldierant]

38. The even bigger picture is that

the American people were robbed of our choice for President..

But it's hard to blame that on Trump** when the Electoral College is the actual culprit

[Tansy_Gold]

44. THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS!

It is so painful to me to have to remind people that in any other civilized country, Hillary Rodham Clinton would have been our 45th President. She won the election. Period.

Our loss had nothing to do with her emails, her unlikeability, or even the country's unwillingness to elect a woman president. She still got three million more votes. She won the election. Period.

The Electoral College, that vestige of slavery, is what foisted 💩 on us, and could do so again. If I could wave a magic wand for 25 seconds, I would abolish the EC. If Biden would expand the SCOTUS, I would wish for a lawsuit to declare the EC unconstitutional for depriving citizens of the right to vote.

Neither of those things is going to happen, so all we can do is get our asses out and vote as if our lives, our children's and grandchildren's and loved ones' lives depend on it. They do.

But damn it all to hell, Hillary won the election. Period. AND I'M STILL WITH HER.

[Martin68]

42. Huh? "We're not even supposed to think that, let alone say it?" We've been saying it all along on DU. Where have you

been?

[kimbutgar]

46. I don't want to be negative and try to be optimistic but inside i fear for our democracy

The rich billionaires trying to buy our elections, the stupid magas, right wing media disinformation and election shenanigans keep me apprehensive though.

[senseandsensibility]

47. You and me both

At the same time I still feel flashes of optimism. Without it, the only option is giving up and I am not even close to ready for that.