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FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:47 AM Apr 24

Does anyone think tRump will take a plea deal soon?

It appears he is totally miserable in Court as he is not in control.....he can't tolerate this and the testimony adds to his misery...the expenses are escalating.....He is in crisis.

If he does take a plea deal, he will be in a temporary "break" state....I don't think his followers would mind at all....

I think this could happen....Awaiting for the US Supreme Court ruling on Thursday....this maybe the turning point to make a plea deal as I sense he is not going to get the immunity he desires....

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Does anyone think tRump will take a plea deal soon? (Original Post) FarPoint Apr 24 OP
That would be like admitting he was wrong. I don't think he's capable of doing that Siwsan Apr 24 #1
He will spin out lies to CYA .... FarPoint Apr 24 #5
Yes, I agree PatSeg Apr 24 #11
Never. He'll flee the country before he does that. -nt CrispyQ Apr 24 #2
My husband says the same thing. Even "taking his passport" wouldn't matter * Oopsie Daisy Apr 24 #9
I believe he will definitely flee after the November election... FarPoint Apr 24 #24
If any wealthy donors assist in his escape that would be a crime. LiberalFighter Apr 24 #35
I'm sure that the Russian our Saudi benefactor (whoever they are) wouldn't care. Oopsie Daisy Apr 24 #48
I doubt it. But, what would the deal be? How is it mutually beneficial? Oopsie Daisy Apr 24 #3
I am always tense with a Jury.... FarPoint Apr 24 #10
It's an interesting question and thought experiment, I agree. Oopsie Daisy Apr 24 #16
I have a strong sense FarPoint Apr 24 #17
Also.... FarPoint Apr 24 #20
He won't escape all the charges. LiberalFighter Apr 24 #39
You make a really good point.... FarPoint Apr 24 #41
That's a good point PatSeg Apr 24 #12
If he takes a plea deal he wouldn't be able to appeal for further delays ripcord Apr 24 #4
He can't help himself...no chance until after he sees Hope Hicks in court. Drum Apr 24 #6
Absolutely no chance of that happening onenote Apr 24 #7
He will have fewer followers. It was stated that conviction would be a big deal for his followers. LiberalFighter Apr 24 #44
Taking a plea would mean he'd have to admit he did something wrong. Ocelot II Apr 24 #8
Wouldn't a plea also possibility obligate him to testify in future trials? Hugin Apr 24 #15
no way jcgoldie Apr 24 #13
Never. Why quit when you're winning the game? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 24 #14
I think he will take a plea deal SARose Apr 24 #18
I would not bet against this corrupt SC giving him some form of immunity. Lonestarblue Apr 24 #19
After Thursdays ruling by the Supreme Court... FarPoint Apr 24 #21
Unfortunately, I think that Thursday/tomorrow is only the arguments on immunity, not the ruling Drum Apr 24 #31
Legal AF NJCher Apr 24 #46
I don't think Bragg will offer him a plea deal yet... agingdem Apr 24 #22
hope he rides it out gopiscrap Apr 24 #23
He wants jail time Tickle Apr 24 #25
Going to jail feeds into his victim image.... FarPoint Apr 24 #27
Really?! Tickle Apr 24 #47
I don't seem to understand your post... FarPoint Apr 24 #49
I was referring to Tickle Apr 25 #52
As much as I believed he would drop out of the Republican primary, sarisataka Apr 24 #26
I think he definately flees FarPoint Apr 24 #28
He'll do whatever it takes to drag this out as long as he can. bif Apr 24 #29
All along, I've heard that they weren't going to offer a plea deal w/ tRUMP. Has this opinion changed? If anything, SWBTATTReg Apr 24 #30
I just had the question this AM... FarPoint Apr 24 #38
No, his best chance is a hung jury, followed only by endless appeals if convicted. mackdaddy Apr 24 #32
TSF knows only 3 things: delay, delay and delay RainCaster Apr 24 #33
Has he been offered a plea deal? Think. Again. Apr 24 #34
Not to my knowledge... FarPoint Apr 24 #36
A plea deal would have to be offered TexasBushwhacker Apr 24 #37
TFG is incapable of admitting that he is wrong LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #40
No. brooklynite Apr 24 #42
I think he has a health event or fakes one Johnny2X2X Apr 24 #43
Nope Raven123 Apr 24 #45
No. obnoxiousdrunk Apr 24 #50
His idol, Adolph went to jail. Cartoonist Apr 24 #51

Siwsan

(26,291 posts)
1. That would be like admitting he was wrong. I don't think he's capable of doing that
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:51 AM
Apr 24

I really believe that HE believes he can bully his way through this and come out on top.

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
5. He will spin out lies to CYA ....
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:55 AM
Apr 24

claiming he was being harassed, abused, witch hunt and needed to work on his campaign...guilty plea won't change many trumpsters voting for him...Claiming he had no choice to find time and peace for them...MAGAS

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
11. Yes, I agree
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:58 AM
Apr 24

Plus he will milk the whole "poor victim" thing for all it's worth. In a sense, it has become a big part of his campaign and the mainstream media is covering him more often than if he was on the campaign trail.

Oopsie Daisy

(2,674 posts)
9. My husband says the same thing. Even "taking his passport" wouldn't matter *
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:57 AM
Apr 24

* because he has a network of wealthy donors who could assist in getting him to Moscow... or any of the countries shown in gray in the map below.

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
24. I believe he will definitely flee after the November election...
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:17 AM
Apr 24

Not sure...I think he will go/flee but it would have to be a no extradition country

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
10. I am always tense with a Jury....
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:57 AM
Apr 24

So that is on my back burner of thoughts...but it's obvious he can't handle this....looks like he may do this for oxygen so to speak...

I don't have any insight to what the deal would be...thats as far as I got...hahahah

Oopsie Daisy

(2,674 posts)
16. It's an interesting question and thought experiment, I agree.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:02 AM
Apr 24

At this late date, a plea-deal would have to be offered by the prosecution... and I think that things have gone much to far for that to happen. Perhaps early-on that could have happened, but the jury is already selected and it looks like the prosecutor has a VERY strong case. With corroborating testimony, recorded phone calls, handwritten notes, bank records, etc. Everything confirms and supports the case against Trump. His only hope now is a MAGA juror that holds out.

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
17. I have a strong sense
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:07 AM
Apr 24

that one juror is not what they claimed to be/ or what they claimed in the pre-trial interview....so I sense there will be a little jury infighting if this case goes to the jury....

I do sense that he will be found guilty....

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
20. Also....
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:12 AM
Apr 24

I think tRump has put attorney Todd Blanche on notice...tRump does not like him I am sensing...He looks to fire him.... tRump always blames someone else as we all know...

onenote

(42,767 posts)
7. Absolutely no chance of that happening
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:55 AM
Apr 24

The trial has just begun and it’s not a slam dunk for the prosecution— jury trials rarely are. Plus there are several years of appeals if he is convicted so he can continue to attack the result and his followers will believe him. There is really no downside for him to let the trial play out — concern about his mental and physical health are overblown, as they have been for the past nine years

LiberalFighter

(51,094 posts)
44. He will have fewer followers. It was stated that conviction would be a big deal for his followers.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:47 AM
Apr 24

Not all of his followers will stop supporting him if he is convicted. But there will be a major hit.

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
8. Taking a plea would mean he'd have to admit he did something wrong.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:57 AM
Apr 24

He'd have to stand before the judge and admit to every element of every crime to which he is pleading guilty, and it's hard to imagine him doing that.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
15. Wouldn't a plea also possibility obligate him to testify in future trials?
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:01 AM
Apr 24

Although, I can see him being a hostile witness to either side in any trial.

jcgoldie

(11,646 posts)
13. no way
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:00 AM
Apr 24

This is all about him denying all of his crimes by playing the victim of Biden's crooked court system... he thinks that he can bullshit 1/2 the country into thinking he's a martyr instead of a criminal... no way in hell he takes a deal.

14. Never. Why quit when you're winning the game?
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:01 AM
Apr 24

Anyone who thinks he's not being treated special because he's "a former president" is living in an alternate universe. Even AG Garland has stopped saying, "The law applies equally to each person."

It's like watching the 1990s sitcom, "Parker Lewis Can't Lose."

SARose

(256 posts)
18. I think he will take a plea deal
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:09 AM
Apr 24

He had a huge wake up call when so few supporters showed up at the courthouse. I think the prospect of being a “loser” again is too much for him.

A well crafted plea deal that prevents him from ever running for elected office and allows him to live out the rest of his life at Mar a Lago is something I think he would accept. Maybe not today but soon.

He is not the same man from 2020 much less 2016.

Call me Pollyanna jest my 2 cents.

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
19. I would not bet against this corrupt SC giving him some form of immunity.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:11 AM
Apr 24

There was no legal need for the SC to take this case unless they wanted to find a way to grant Trump some immunity while denying it for the current and future presidents.

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
21. After Thursdays ruling by the Supreme Court...
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:14 AM
Apr 24

tRump will be making some changes ....it could be firing attorney Todd Blanche, a plea deal ...who knows but he will be very desperate.

Drum

(9,197 posts)
31. Unfortunately, I think that Thursday/tomorrow is only the arguments on immunity, not the ruling
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:34 AM
Apr 24

😕

NJCher

(35,732 posts)
46. Legal AF
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 12:14 PM
Apr 24
There was no legal need for the SC to take this case unless they wanted to find a way to grant Trump some immunity while denying it for the current and future presidents.

presented a theory on how they will do it and he will get out of all the fed cases, if I remember correctly. Jack Smith's case will go down the drain.

If they are right, we better get something substantial out of this case by the Manhattan DA.

I encourage others to check this out, as I was gardening while listening and may have missed something. I don't think so, though. Both Karen and Ben were sick at the possibility, as was I after I heard it.

The podcast is "Trump is Decomposing at Criminal Trail" and appears after the halfway point. You won't find this one at youtube; it's the audio podcast and you have to go to Apple or Prime or wherever else they have it.

agingdem

(7,859 posts)
22. I don't think Bragg will offer him a plea deal yet...
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:14 AM
Apr 24

he's trashed Bragg and his wife, the judge and his daughter, "crapped" all over the legal and judicial process, bad mouthed the jury, threatened witnesses, and filed multiple appeals to get the charges thrown out and the judge removed..if Bragg offers him a plea deal it will be after Michael Cohen takes the stand...

Tickle

(2,540 posts)
25. He wants jail time
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:21 AM
Apr 24

I've been thinking about it lately, and I wanted to share some thoughts with all of you. It's about tRump going to jail.

Quite honestly, I've been considering the possibility that tRump might have different motivations than what initially meets the eye. It's a bit unconventional, but I wonder if he might be seeking attention or even publicity through his actions.

This realization feels a bit surreal, but as I've reflected more on it, it seems plausible. Perhaps tRump perceives going to jail as a form of gaining notoriety or even as an opportunity to advocate for prison reform, perhaps even turning it into a reality show.

While this idea may seem far-fetched, it's been nagging at me.

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
27. Going to jail feeds into his victim image....
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:23 AM
Apr 24

He always gets lots of milage from this approach....He has gotten vast amounts of small donor donations with this script.

Tickle

(2,540 posts)
47. Really?!
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 01:19 PM
Apr 24

It seems like just when I thought someone couldn't get any lower, I experienced a proverbial slap in the face.

Tickle

(2,540 posts)
52. I was referring to
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 03:55 AM
Apr 25

tRump getting small donations. Typically small donations comes from average people. What average person would donate to him?

sarisataka

(18,774 posts)
26. As much as I believed he would drop out of the Republican primary,
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:22 AM
Apr 24

drop out of the general election, flee to Russia, flee to Saudi Arabia..........

bif

(22,747 posts)
29. He'll do whatever it takes to drag this out as long as he can.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:26 AM
Apr 24

Hoping it takes him up to the election.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
30. All along, I've heard that they weren't going to offer a plea deal w/ tRUMP. Has this opinion changed? If anything,
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:32 AM
Apr 24

the case against tRUMP is looking very strong.

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
38. I just had the question this AM...
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:42 AM
Apr 24

Thought I would explore the thoughts here with my DU friends...since no Court today.

mackdaddy

(1,528 posts)
32. No, his best chance is a hung jury, followed only by endless appeals if convicted.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM
Apr 24

He would be past his expiration date before he actually sees in inside of a cell by his delay delay delay strategy.

Except if he keeps violating gag order rules in a judge's face. He might see a few days that way.

RainCaster

(10,916 posts)
33. TSF knows only 3 things: delay, delay and delay
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:35 AM
Apr 24

He only has one strategy, and that is to outlast his opponents in court. We'll see how well that works in criminal court.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,215 posts)
37. A plea deal would have to be offered
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:41 AM
Apr 24

and it won't be. Even if he isn't convicted, the embarrassment of the trial will inflict and enormous amount of damage. There is no way the prosecutor would offer a plea deal. They're in it for the long haul.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
43. I think he has a health event or fakes one
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:46 AM
Apr 24

He can't stand sitting there and the days are about to get much longer than the half days they've done so far.

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