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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyone think tRump will take a plea deal soon?
It appears he is totally miserable in Court as he is not in control.....he can't tolerate this and the testimony adds to his misery...the expenses are escalating.....He is in crisis.
If he does take a plea deal, he will be in a temporary "break" state....I don't think his followers would mind at all....
I think this could happen....Awaiting for the US Supreme Court ruling on Thursday....this maybe the turning point to make a plea deal as I sense he is not going to get the immunity he desires....
Siwsan
(26,291 posts)I really believe that HE believes he can bully his way through this and come out on top.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)claiming he was being harassed, abused, witch hunt and needed to work on his campaign...guilty plea won't change many trumpsters voting for him...Claiming he had no choice to find time and peace for them...MAGAS
Plus he will milk the whole "poor victim" thing for all it's worth. In a sense, it has become a big part of his campaign and the mainstream media is covering him more often than if he was on the campaign trail.
CrispyQ
(36,518 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,674 posts)* because he has a network of wealthy donors who could assist in getting him to Moscow... or any of the countries shown in gray in the map below.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)Not sure...I think he will go/flee but it would have to be a no extradition country
LiberalFighter
(51,094 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,674 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,674 posts)FarPoint
(12,444 posts)So that is on my back burner of thoughts...but it's obvious he can't handle this....looks like he may do this for oxygen so to speak...
I don't have any insight to what the deal would be...thats as far as I got...hahahah
Oopsie Daisy
(2,674 posts)At this late date, a plea-deal would have to be offered by the prosecution... and I think that things have gone much to far for that to happen. Perhaps early-on that could have happened, but the jury is already selected and it looks like the prosecutor has a VERY strong case. With corroborating testimony, recorded phone calls, handwritten notes, bank records, etc. Everything confirms and supports the case against Trump. His only hope now is a MAGA juror that holds out.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)that one juror is not what they claimed to be/ or what they claimed in the pre-trial interview....so I sense there will be a little jury infighting if this case goes to the jury....
I do sense that he will be found guilty....
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)I think tRump has put attorney Todd Blanche on notice...tRump does not like him I am sensing...He looks to fire him.... tRump always blames someone else as we all know...
LiberalFighter
(51,094 posts)I doubt there is a strong magat on the jury.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)He won't escape all the charges....
PatSeg
(47,602 posts)What would the state benefit from a deal?
ripcord
(5,537 posts)Drum
(9,197 posts)onenote
(42,767 posts)The trial has just begun and its not a slam dunk for the prosecution jury trials rarely are. Plus there are several years of appeals if he is convicted so he can continue to attack the result and his followers will believe him. There is really no downside for him to let the trial play out concern about his mental and physical health are overblown, as they have been for the past nine years
LiberalFighter
(51,094 posts)Not all of his followers will stop supporting him if he is convicted. But there will be a major hit.
Ocelot II
(115,858 posts)He'd have to stand before the judge and admit to every element of every crime to which he is pleading guilty, and it's hard to imagine him doing that.
Hugin
(33,207 posts)Although, I can see him being a hostile witness to either side in any trial.
jcgoldie
(11,646 posts)This is all about him denying all of his crimes by playing the victim of Biden's crooked court system... he thinks that he can bullshit 1/2 the country into thinking he's a martyr instead of a criminal... no way in hell he takes a deal.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,595 posts)Anyone who thinks he's not being treated special because he's "a former president" is living in an alternate universe. Even AG Garland has stopped saying, "The law applies equally to each person."
It's like watching the 1990s sitcom, "Parker Lewis Can't Lose."
SARose
(256 posts)He had a huge wake up call when so few supporters showed up at the courthouse. I think the prospect of being a loser again is too much for him.
A well crafted plea deal that prevents him from ever running for elected office and allows him to live out the rest of his life at Mar a Lago is something I think he would accept. Maybe not today but soon.
He is not the same man from 2020 much less 2016.
Call me Pollyanna jest my 2 cents.
Lonestarblue
(10,078 posts)There was no legal need for the SC to take this case unless they wanted to find a way to grant Trump some immunity while denying it for the current and future presidents.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)tRump will be making some changes ....it could be firing attorney Todd Blanche, a plea deal ...who knows but he will be very desperate.
Drum
(9,197 posts)😕
NJCher
(35,732 posts)presented a theory on how they will do it and he will get out of all the fed cases, if I remember correctly. Jack Smith's case will go down the drain.
If they are right, we better get something substantial out of this case by the Manhattan DA.
I encourage others to check this out, as I was gardening while listening and may have missed something. I don't think so, though. Both Karen and Ben were sick at the possibility, as was I after I heard it.
The podcast is "Trump is Decomposing at Criminal Trail" and appears after the halfway point. You won't find this one at youtube; it's the audio podcast and you have to go to Apple or Prime or wherever else they have it.
agingdem
(7,859 posts)he's trashed Bragg and his wife, the judge and his daughter, "crapped" all over the legal and judicial process, bad mouthed the jury, threatened witnesses, and filed multiple appeals to get the charges thrown out and the judge removed..if Bragg offers him a plea deal it will be after Michael Cohen takes the stand...
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)is found gullty and sent to Rikers and put in general population
Tickle
(2,540 posts)I've been thinking about it lately, and I wanted to share some thoughts with all of you. It's about tRump going to jail.
Quite honestly, I've been considering the possibility that tRump might have different motivations than what initially meets the eye. It's a bit unconventional, but I wonder if he might be seeking attention or even publicity through his actions.
This realization feels a bit surreal, but as I've reflected more on it, it seems plausible. Perhaps tRump perceives going to jail as a form of gaining notoriety or even as an opportunity to advocate for prison reform, perhaps even turning it into a reality show.
While this idea may seem far-fetched, it's been nagging at me.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)He always gets lots of milage from this approach....He has gotten vast amounts of small donor donations with this script.
It seems like just when I thought someone couldn't get any lower, I experienced a proverbial slap in the face.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)Can you clarify?
Tickle
(2,540 posts)tRump getting small donations. Typically small donations comes from average people. What average person would donate to him?
sarisataka
(18,774 posts)drop out of the general election, flee to Russia, flee to Saudi Arabia..........
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)after he looses the November election....
bif
(22,747 posts)Hoping it takes him up to the election.
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)the case against tRUMP is looking very strong.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)Thought I would explore the thoughts here with my DU friends...since no Court today.
mackdaddy
(1,528 posts)He would be past his expiration date before he actually sees in inside of a cell by his delay delay delay strategy.
Except if he keeps violating gag order rules in a judge's face. He might see a few days that way.
RainCaster
(10,916 posts)He only has one strategy, and that is to outlast his opponents in court. We'll see how well that works in criminal court.
Think. Again.
(8,418 posts)FarPoint
(12,444 posts)Just thinking out loud here with my friends at DU...
TexasBushwhacker
(20,215 posts)and it won't be. Even if he isn't convicted, the embarrassment of the trial will inflict and enormous amount of damage. There is no way the prosecutor would offer a plea deal. They're in it for the long haul.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,567 posts)brooklynite
(94,737 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)He can't stand sitting there and the days are about to get much longer than the half days they've done so far.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)Trump may consider that a prerequisite to becoming dictator.