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kpete

(72,691 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 12:51 PM Apr 2024

NYT scoop: "David Pecker...is set to go first" as prosecution witness.

NYT scoop: "David Pecker...is set to go first" as prosecution witness. ⬇️

Pecker could be key witness - in ways more devastating than Michael Cohen.

This also indicates DA is foregrounding unlawful election influence for jurors.




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NYT scoop: "David Pecker...is set to go first" as prosecution witness. (Original Post) kpete Apr 2024 OP
I suspect if he lies under oath, the DA will go after him agingdem Apr 2024 #1
Why at this point would he perjure himself? brooklynite Apr 2024 #8
Why did Allen Weisselberg lie under oath?... agingdem Apr 2024 #9
And Pecker saw the consequences of that. brooklynite Apr 2024 #10
More than that InstantGratification Apr 2024 #45
Pecker Jilly_in_VA Apr 2024 #2
Will he rise to the occasion? Sneederbunk Apr 2024 #22
Or just be a wimp like his 'shroomy friend? erronis Apr 2024 #23
Pecker covering for a pecker because of who one's pecker pecked. MiHale Apr 2024 #26
We couldn't make this stuff up! calimary Apr 2024 #32
👍 MiHale Apr 2024 #47
K&R for, how about all his treasure trove of killed stories! UTUSN Apr 2024 #3
I can see where this testimony will make it loud and clear the reason for the... Hugin Apr 2024 #5
Exactly. And it won't be Cohen saying it first. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #35
And thank you Ronan Farrow Pinback Apr 2024 #18
Agree! Ronan really got on the story and carried it. erronis Apr 2024 #24
If he tells everything he knows it will be more devastating than Cohen. CrispyQ Apr 2024 #4
Oh yeah PatSeg Apr 2024 #19
So it is going to be chronological order. Irish_Dem Apr 2024 #6
Telling the Karen McDougal story as precedent? What is the "foregrounding..." part about? underpants Apr 2024 #12
She came forward in 2016. She wanted people to know, they paid her off too. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #36
Wow, this trial hasn't even started and already so many opportunities for juvenile toilet humor. sop Apr 2024 #7
Yes it's a target rich environment underpants Apr 2024 #13
Fair criticism but, Disaffected Apr 2024 #28
And so it begins... sop Apr 2024 #29
Yes, it does. Disaffected Apr 2024 #44
And don't forget the pecker jokes! calimary Apr 2024 #33
t'ain't gonna be much distance between Pecker and Asshole next week underpants Apr 2024 #42
Good one! calimary Apr 2024 #60
RSO rso Apr 2024 #11
Will Donnie turn up his gas dispenser to 11 in response to Pecker"s testimony? Ping Tung Apr 2024 #14
Definitely looking forward to Pecker's testimony. It will be very damaging, all of Trump's sleazy behavior emulatorloo Apr 2024 #15
This is 7th grade, locker room humor. It's as juvenile as the stuff when Rudi farted during his 3Hotdogs Apr 2024 #16
Whoa, this should be interesting! PatSeg Apr 2024 #17
So Pecker orangecrush Apr 2024 #20
So when does TSF tweet about him and violate the gag order yet again? (I won't call his posts 'truths' cuz they ain't) Maeve Apr 2024 #21
I suspect grandpa won't be snoozing tomorrow. Demobrat Apr 2024 #25
I think pecker is really gonna stick it to Donnie. It will be painful and hard to take it all in. unblock Apr 2024 #27
It's the FIRST narrative and facts on Trump's motive that win the jury, ancianita Apr 2024 #30
Expect stiff resistance from the Defense Table. NBachers Apr 2024 #31
OMG how I LOVE this thread!!! calimary Apr 2024 #34
I assume Pecker isn't "cooperating" JoseBalow Apr 2024 #37
Straight to Pecker - no foreplay lame54 Apr 2024 #38
And Rachel Maddow Deep State Witch Apr 2024 #39
I thought defense was told not to say Tree Lady Apr 2024 #40
No one, but especially not the defense, is supposed to publicly naming the witnwsses soldierant Apr 2024 #59
Remember, Mr. Pecker flipped on his old friend Donald. blogslug Apr 2024 #41
Some of the tighty whitey decorum police are at it again here on DU. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2024 #43
I quit watching The Apprentice when Carolyn left. Backseat Driver Apr 2024 #46
One of my all-time favorite headlines..... Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #48
I can't wait for the judge to rubber-stamp "GUILTY!" NBachers Apr 2024 #49
Who leaked? WarGamer Apr 2024 #50
Maybe nobody! Who is this joker anyway? getagrip_already Apr 2024 #52
so, in tv attorney fashion, is this an attempt to indicate motive for the crime? Model35mech Apr 2024 #51
No, the crime has two components.... getagrip_already Apr 2024 #53
Thanks. I really needed to get onto the correct track Model35mech Apr 2024 #54
I actually didn't get that from the linked article... Mr.WeRP Apr 2024 #55
Warning: The double entendre generator is showing signs of overheating. nt Buns_of_Fire Apr 2024 #56
I thought this was supposed to be a secret? ecstatic Apr 2024 #57
That Pecker is really going to give it to that Asshole. DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 2024 #58
My own last name is the 4 letters that come after... 3catwoman3 Apr 2024 #61
45. More than that
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 03:56 PM
Apr 2024

Yes perjury charges could be on the table, but that is not the most serious consequence. He has a deal for immunity in exchange for his testimony. If he is found to be lying or holds back information, the immunity deal can be revoked and he could find himself a defendant instead of witness.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,650 posts)
2. Pecker
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 12:58 PM
Apr 2024

could hardly be a more appropriate name for the guy. He's not only a distasteful person, he's a real dick.

calimary

(83,458 posts)
32. We couldn't make this stuff up!
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:56 PM
Apr 2024

I think it’s SOOOOOOOOO beautiful that a guy name Pecker is standing up for the donald.

UTUSN

(71,917 posts)
3. K&R for, how about all his treasure trove of killed stories!
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 2024

Apart from this case, holy Mark BURNETT and spouse are sitting on Apprentice files.

Hugin

(34,303 posts)
5. I can see where this testimony will make it loud and clear the reason for the...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:10 PM
Apr 2024

“catch and kill” of these stories was election interference and I guarantee it wasn’t to spare Mellie’s feelies, because, Trump could give a shit less about those.

CrispyQ

(37,616 posts)
4. If he tells everything he knows it will be more devastating than Cohen.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:05 PM
Apr 2024

Trump thought last week was bad.

PatSeg

(49,539 posts)
19. Oh yeah
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:26 PM
Apr 2024

I don't think Pecker is going to lie for Donald. He's not worth risking perjury.

Poor, poor Donald.

Irish_Dem

(55,620 posts)
6. So it is going to be chronological order.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:14 PM
Apr 2024

Going back to the very beginning of how the obstruction occurred,
the beginning and back story to the crimes.

underpants

(185,330 posts)
12. Telling the Karen McDougal story as precedent? What is the "foregrounding..." part about?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:41 PM
Apr 2024

McDougal was with Trump 2006-2007

sop

(11,078 posts)
7. Wow, this trial hasn't even started and already so many opportunities for juvenile toilet humor.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:18 PM
Apr 2024

So far we've had a ton of fart jokes, now it'll be pecker jokes. And when Stormy Daniels gets up on the stand we'll be making jokes about spankings using a rolled-up Forbes magazine with Trump and two of his children on the cover, and mushroom-shaped dicks. It's like the courtroom's being run by a bunch of twelve-year-olds.

emulatorloo

(45,469 posts)
15. Definitely looking forward to Pecker's testimony. It will be very damaging, all of Trump's sleazy behavior
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:52 PM
Apr 2024

on display.

3Hotdogs

(13,136 posts)
16. This is 7th grade, locker room humor. It's as juvenile as the stuff when Rudi farted during his
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:21 PM
Apr 2024

congressional testimony.

I'm embarrassed to be a part of D.U.

Carry on.

Maeve

(42,766 posts)
21. So when does TSF tweet about him and violate the gag order yet again? (I won't call his posts 'truths' cuz they ain't)
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:32 PM
Apr 2024

ancianita

(37,672 posts)
30. It's the FIRST narrative and facts on Trump's motive that win the jury,
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:52 PM
Apr 2024

over any defense version of Trump's motive.

Pecker is as important, if not more important, than Cohen in laying out the actual reason for trump using Cohen as cover for the money trail, and Weisselberg as cover for the bookkeeping cheating -- all for blocking public voter knowledge of more than one affair while married.
Daniels, later, will explain all the sordid reasons why the prosecution is right.

It's First points that frame the rest -- a major psychology rule of winning argument and debate
-- and that first narrative of the facts will be the filter through which the jury 'impartially' hears the defense and cross examinations.

soldierant

(7,648 posts)
59. No one, but especially not the defense, is supposed to publicly naming the witnwsses
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 07:45 PM
Apr 2024

or the members of the jury. By the rukes of Discovery, the prosecution is rewuired to notify the defense of the witnesses (so they can make plans for cross-examination.)

However, Judge Merchan has indicated that the first witnesses are a test. If the names get out, no more prior notice to defense. I don't know whether Pecker is included in that - since he is a public figure he may not be.

blogslug

(38,465 posts)
41. Remember, Mr. Pecker flipped on his old friend Donald.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 03:30 PM
Apr 2024
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/donald-trump-national-enquirer-allies-defect-david-pecker-michael-cohen

archive link: https://archive.ph/7pky1

Trump is – or had been – close pals with AMI chief David Pecker, who’d pushed Trump for years to run for the White House, and then used the Enquirer to promote his candidacy.

To avoid being charged with campaign-law violations, Pecker flipped three months ago and began cooperating with the feds. He corroborated detailed information offered by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, now bound for prison.

According to the “non-prosecution” agreement signed by AMI, Pecker met with Cohen “and at least one other member of the [Trump] campaign” in August 2015.


According to multiple news sources, that other person in the room was the candidate himself...


NoMoreRepugs

(10,244 posts)
43. Some of the tighty whitey decorum police are at it again here on DU.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 03:39 PM
Apr 2024

If you find it offensive or below you try to ignore it versus letting it rankle you is my suggestion.

Backseat Driver

(4,557 posts)
46. I quit watching The Apprentice when Carolyn left.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:17 PM
Apr 2024

She seemed smart and savy and a fair judge of the challenged teams. I recall her leaving was controversial. How has she managed few, if any, comments for or against THAT organization in the MSM and/or by a myriad of attorneys, from back in the day before Ivanka, et al, took over her spot?

WarGamer

(14,286 posts)
50. Who leaked?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:06 PM
Apr 2024

AG office said they weren't telling Trump until Sunday...

So WHO leaked? Judge was pretty concerned about a leak.

getagrip_already

(16,916 posts)
52. Maybe nobody! Who is this joker anyway?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:13 PM
Apr 2024

How does he know? Does he know?

Or is this just another lie flosted to the media?

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
51. so, in tv attorney fashion, is this an attempt to indicate motive for the crime?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:07 PM
Apr 2024

I'm not a professional court watcher, even as a couch bound legal commentator.

The crime is supposed to be lying about his business records. I'm assuming the records will demonstrate a twisted explanation of how the money was spent.

I have the feeling Trump -never- has told the whole truth in the records of his businesses. Beyond the lying accounting, must the prosecutor demonstrate how this example demands indictment and conviction above all the others?

getagrip_already

(16,916 posts)
53. No, the crime has two components....
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:19 PM
Apr 2024

One is fraud. That is lying about the source and destination of funds.

The other is election interference. That is the crime that elevates the first crime from a misdemeanor to a felony. To do that, they need to demonstrate that he likely committed the second crime in furtherance of the first, even though they aren't charging him with it.

So they need to build a case showing his history of affairs, of catch and kill, and why he paid off stormy when and how he did.

It's all related. But they have to tell the whole story as one big sordid story book.

It isn't just a simple fraud case.

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
54. Thanks. I really needed to get onto the correct track
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:23 PM
Apr 2024

to be able understand the significant presented when it turns into newsbytes on the tv.

Mr.WeRP

(372 posts)
55. I actually didn't get that from the linked article...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:42 PM
Apr 2024

If it is true, the press is doing a disservice to justice by publishing that. It makes sense that Pecker is the first as the story somewhat starts with him.

3catwoman3

(25,031 posts)
61. My own last name is the 4 letters that come after...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 08:33 PM
Apr 2024

...soccer-, base-, tennis-, foot-, etc. It was bad enough growing up.

I'm very glad my last name is not Pecker. I'll bet the journalists are tired of saying it.

A good friend of mine while I was in the Air Force had the most unfortunate last name of Penix.

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