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clayton72

(135 posts)
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:40 AM Nov 2012

Electric cars - What's the latest news for battery innovation?

Over the years I've seen many articles about major breakthroughs in battery technology that will make electric cars greener and more competitive with gasoline powered cars. What ever happened with those companies and their bold claims? When will there be electric cars that go more than 400 miles on a charge and take less than 15 mins to charge?

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Electric cars - What's the latest news for battery innovation? (Original Post) clayton72 Nov 2012 OP
We're not too far away from that, actually. Selatius Nov 2012 #1
We don't need fast charging. GaYellowDawg Nov 2012 #8
Incremental on practical ones with toxins remaining an issue ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #2
GE's nickel sodium batteries. : ) nt rDigital Nov 2012 #3
"What ever happened with those companies and their bold claims?" PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #4
It will be interesting to see what happens Warpy Nov 2012 #5
Soon we may all be driving lemons. Kablooie Nov 2012 #6
Well the car's computer might be lemon powered... PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #9
Perhaps this one day soon..... I hope. 2on2u Nov 2012 #7

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
1. We're not too far away from that, actually.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:55 AM
Nov 2012

It's an extreme example, but the Tesla Roadster can go about 244 miles on a single charge using modern lithium-ion battery technology. Older electric vehicles like the EV-1 never had access to lithium-ion technology; it didn't exist back then. While it takes roughly 3 hours for a Tesla to fully recharge, in practice we're most likely talking about recharging a battery system that is still partially full, so it likely won't take the full 3 hours unless you run it completely down.

As far as using electric vehicles for interstate travel, the time to charge issue will likely be a problem with us for a while to come. It's difficult to imagine recharging a full bank of batteries entirely in 15 minutes, not without expensive investments in charging stations and the invention of new technologies to facilitate such speed.

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
8. We don't need fast charging.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:33 AM
Nov 2012

We need banks of batteries that are easy to remove and replace. You go to the equivalent of a filling station, where they have a bunch of fully charged batteries. You pay them $20 to replace your spent batteries with fully charged ones. Batteries out, batteries in, and you're on your way. Your old batteries go to someone else when they're through charging.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
2. Incremental on practical ones with toxins remaining an issue
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:57 AM
Nov 2012

The gee whiz stuff seems to come and go between the hype cycles.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
5. It will be interesting to see what happens
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:09 AM
Nov 2012

as carbon nanotube battery technology is perfected and put into production. So far, it promises lighter and more efficient batteries with a shorter turnaround on recharging. We'll see.

Kablooie

(18,631 posts)
6. Soon we may all be driving lemons.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:12 AM
Nov 2012

Lemons are used to make batteries in science class.

... Uh, remember?...

Ummm......




Never mind.

 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
7. Perhaps this one day soon..... I hope.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:42 AM
Nov 2012

www.Prietobattery.com



Today’s growing need for energy storage as related to renewables, electric/hybrid vehicles, consumer products, and government applications drives the requirement for a radical change in battery design and production.

In order to achieve such critical requirements in lithium-ion battery performance, Prieto Battery has designed a revolutionary battery architecture intended to address the slow diffusion of lithium-ions (Li+) into and between the anode and cathode.

The conventional battery surface is two-dimensional which limits the direction and speed at which energy can flow. The result is a battery that takes a long time to charge, loses energy quickly, and needs to be replaced often.

The unique 3D architecture, integrates nanowire or copper foam substrate, both of which will have higher power and energy densities than any traditional lithium-ion battery available.

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