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Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 09:27 AM Apr 17

I think the hush money trial is the very best trial to happen first.

Last edited Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:48 PM - Edit history (1)

People have debated this point, and many thought other trials, more serious ones like J6 and the
classified document trials should go first.

But the psychology is better for the hush money, election interference trial.

We have Americans who:
-have no interest in politics
-only seem to understand simple issues.
-want to be entertained, not listen to dry facts.
-can only understand things that have personal relevance to themselves.
-have short attention spans.

So a trial involving a porn star, Playboy bunny, and the National Enquirer will catch
most people's attention right off the bat.

A man having an affair with a porn star when his wife just had a baby will set tongues wagging.

Infidelity is a more understandable sin compared to insurrection and stealing classified docs.

Everyone has seen the National Enquirer and knows it is slimy, any connection to it has to be bad.

So the trial will definitely get the public's attention, then the bribe and hush money can be discussed, and introduce the election interference. How Trump may have swung the election by this tactic. Along with Russian interference which I hope the media ties to the trial as well.

It is a win-win. Even in the event that a jury member throws the trial, Trump is still painted as a disgusting human being. And his behavior in court will underscore this fact because he is clearly acting out like a deranged toddler.

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I think the hush money trial is the very best trial to happen first. (Original Post) Irish_Dem Apr 17 OP
Yes indeed malaise Apr 17 #1
Pecker not only killed stories on behalf of the SF... Kid Berwyn Apr 17 #2
Yes I hope this gets brought up as well. Irish_Dem Apr 17 #7
I agree. EndlessWire Apr 17 #3
I think he has to admit he paid the money. Irish_Dem Apr 17 #10
said the same yesterday. his sleaze is on full display. mopinko Apr 17 #4
Yep even a possibly corrupt jury can't erase the fact trump is Irish_Dem Apr 17 #8
Yes, agree. Elessar Zappa Apr 17 #5
Can't get more flashy than sex with a porn star and playboy bunny Irish_Dem Apr 17 #9
Stormy Didn't Even Expect or Want to Have Sex with TFG NonPC Apr 17 #14
I didn't know it happened this way. Irish_Dem Apr 17 #18
It's the family values portion of everything. Turbineguy Apr 17 #6
Cynical orangecrush Apr 17 #11
Another thing this trial does that gets overlooked InstantGratification Apr 17 #12
Good point. Irish_Dem Apr 17 #17
I actually agree with you Irish_Dem. The sheer sensationalism and tawdriness of this whole thing is something that will Texin Apr 17 #13
The artist renderings are quite dramatic and well done. Irish_Dem Apr 17 #19
I concur....expose the moral degenerate. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 17 #15
Sex sells Kaleva Apr 17 #16
Perfect summary of my OP. Irish_Dem Apr 17 #20
Salacious sells. AmBlue Apr 17 #21
Yes get public attention with the sex story, then they learn something. Irish_Dem Apr 17 #22
It's the perfect summer blockbuster blogslug Apr 17 #23
Right, the stuff of tantalizing novels. Irish_Dem Apr 17 #24

EndlessWire

(6,562 posts)
3. I agree.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 09:49 AM
Apr 17

Something I can't understand is why he is now admitting that he did pay the money. I can see that he wants to defeat the higher felony count by breaking that chain of evidence. But, now the public knows for sure that he did make the payment. It is not a "legal expense." Here he is during trial trying to cover up the cover up. It won't make a lot of sense to most anybody. What a liar. And, he's trying to blame an accountant.

Everybody knows that he cheated on his wife with a sex worker, and then paid her off to keep silent about it before the election. Some "business expense." He would have to testify to that line of malarkey to get that reasoning in front of the jury, so maybe he really intends to testify. I dunno. But, I agree with you. This case is the simplest to understand, and carries with it the possibility of Trump going to jail for at least a few months.

Thirty-four counts will be hard to defeat. He will have to break the compounding line of evidence in order to come up with even just a misdemeanor. He should have tried to plead down to a misdemeanor, because now he is even admitting he did it, anyway. It makes no difference. People are now focusing on his drooling mouth rather than his candidacy. I love it. I hope he continues to nod off.

mopinko

(70,198 posts)
4. said the same yesterday. his sleaze is on full display.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 09:50 AM
Apr 17

his absolute lack of character will b all the talk for weeks.

NonPC

(308 posts)
14. Stormy Didn't Even Expect or Want to Have Sex with TFG
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:26 PM
Apr 17

He caught her right when she came out of the bathroom. Almost a sexual assault. She was a porn star, not a hooker.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
18. I didn't know it happened this way.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:40 PM
Apr 17

I thought it was entirely consensual.

I hope this is brought up at the trial.

Turbineguy

(37,364 posts)
6. It's the family values portion of everything.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 10:28 AM
Apr 17

After this, he's an insurrectionist and a foreign agent portion

12. Another thing this trial does that gets overlooked
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:18 PM
Apr 17

Right now Mango Mussolini is a first time offender as far as the legal system is concerned. (of course, we all know he is a life long offender) With no felonies on his record, the sentencing guidelines will go much lighter on him. If we get a guilty verdict in this trial, that will change his status in all the future trials. As a convicted felon, the sentences for any future guilty verdicts will get much stiffer.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
17. Good point.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:39 PM
Apr 17

Convicted felon in future trials means harsher punishments.

He is a career criminal. And should be treated as such.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
13. I actually agree with you Irish_Dem. The sheer sensationalism and tawdriness of this whole thing is something that will
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:21 PM
Apr 17

capture most people's attention and the sheer vulgarity of the guy is on full display in that courtroom (even though we won't be watching any courtroom videos, sadly).

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
19. The artist renderings are quite dramatic and well done.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:44 PM
Apr 17

I think it is almost better than video.

And the reporters tweeting out facts is enticing and drama filled.

People are used to having access to any and all info 24/7.

The trial is not that way, we have to wait to get second hand information.
Makes it more appealing and almost addictive?

I think it is rolling out perfectly from a psychological point of view.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
20. Perfect summary of my OP.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:44 PM
Apr 17

Usually we have to sex up something to make people want to read a story.

The trial is already salacious.

AmBlue

(3,115 posts)
21. Salacious sells.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 12:55 PM
Apr 17

Especially among low IQ individuals. Assuming they follow the story for the porn star sex, they may actually learn about the bribes and what Pecker and Cohen did, and the real reason behind all of it: to smear his opponents with ugly lies, and to conceal and pervert the truth about TSF from voters, so he could win the presidency fraudulently.

*If* they manage all that (I know, a reach) and are at all disgusted by the scummy, cheating dishonesty of TSF, then maybe, just maybe, it might peak their interest to actually look at what else the bastard is guilty of in the Georgia case, the J6 case, and the classified docs case.

Who knows? A girl can hope...

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
22. Yes get public attention with the sex story, then they learn something.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 01:12 PM
Apr 17

All good education involves some of a dog and pony show.

But even if they cannot grasp the legal points, they still understand Trump's total lack of character.

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