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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat the hell is going on with the US Supreme Court?
It's like they have all become Chris Sununu's?
They are trying to excuse and legitimize the insurrectionists who ransacked our Capitol on January 6th and threatened our elected Representatives and Senators.
Have they all fallen prey to the Trump spell?
They seem to be totally disregarding the laws and our Constitution and just making shit up??
Unless somebody can remove the pall that has enshrouded them, they are likely to do the unthinkable. They might even rule that not only does Donald Trump have "absolute immunity", but that he never did anything that would require immunity.
They have lost their friggin' minds. Too bad someone cannot remove their robes.
elleng
(131,004 posts)especially of complex legal matters.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)and obstructed the counting of the official electoral votes?
They don't want to put the "average" insurrectionist in with the Proud Boys and the violent groups?
elleng
(131,004 posts)not so simple,
That's the way the law works.
Irish_Dem
(47,160 posts)But when Trump and his flying monkeys commit crimes all of a sudden it is complex,
nuanced and shades of grey.
We are not buying it.
Walleye
(31,030 posts)Layzeebeaver
(1,625 posts)Definitions are important
DENVERPOPS
(8,838 posts)Gorsuch learned from his mommy,....... She was corrupt as hell when she was head of the EPA under Reagan. After permanently damaging the EPA for two years, and enriching Corporations that benefitted her family, the day before they were going to charge her, she quickly resigned and that was the end of that, But the damage was done to the environment, and she personally benefitted from most of her decisions and wiping out regulations.......Quite the legacy for a son to try and follow, but he seems to have one-upped her.
bucolic_frolic
(43,206 posts)and probably trans care is to follow if it didn't already.
Criminals have rights, but ordinary women don't.
Repeatedly they distort the most plainly worded language for their modern spin while preaching original intent with medieval treatises.
We are in an upside down judicial period where everything appears to not be what it was and is. They are being unwoke by destroying logic and common sense. Once the law is shredded with an eggbeater I don't know how you get it back.
Irish_Dem
(47,160 posts)But at the same time let Trump and his minions off the hook.
They think we are stupid.
pwb
(11,280 posts)Oh boy, hang on sloppy.
Irish_Dem
(47,160 posts)Bettie
(16,111 posts)perhaps with his name in it, saying 'this will only apply to this one guy' in legalese.
Now, I know what you're going to say "Why, they can't make a law that only affects one person! It's against the rules!" and I answer who is going to stop them?
What we've learned is that there is no recourse in our government, it was built on the assumption that corruption would be rare, a person here and there, so the "consequences" for actions would be served by the non-corrupt.
The non-corrupt are non-existent on the Republican side and once the Supreme Court rules on anything, we have to fucking live with the consequences.
Initech
(100,086 posts)They need their asses kicked and they need to be brought back to reality.
Mike Niendorff
(3,462 posts)Accepting a packed and corrupt Court as having any shred of legitimacy is a terminal mistake.
Congress can -- and should -- correct this situation by expanding the Court (28 USC 1), preferably to 13 Justices to match the current structure of the Federal Circuits.
In addition, at the very least Justices Thomas and Alito should be the subject of impeachment hearings for bribery and corruption.
You cannot expect legitimate results from a rabidly illegitimate Court, it's really just that simple.
MDN
BlueKota
(1,761 posts)They are putting themselves, their party, and especially Trump above the law.
DENVERPOPS
(8,838 posts)By Hook, or by Crook............
What a bunch of Corrupt Clowns.....My Republican Father, and all his Republican Friends/Associates, are rolling over in their graves watching these assholes.......
And Ironically, he was chasing the last Major Fascist all over Italy during WWII.............
BlueKota
(1,761 posts)It is an insult to all the veterans like your father and my Uncles who fought the fascists that facicism is now welcomed by one of the two major parties here.
barbtries
(28,805 posts)ASAP. expand the court and make it make sense again.
magicarpet
(14,157 posts)PufPuf23
(8,801 posts)Feel like getting played most days.
Stark realization that won't be around to see an outcome, barring rapid onset WWIII or similar disaster.
Irish_Dem
(47,160 posts)Some of them belong in jail.
Others should never make any decisions regarding the welfare of Americans.
jimfields33
(15,841 posts)Never mind. I just remembered its only a senate action.
wnylib
(21,505 posts)in the court composition will require enough Dems in Congress to take action, plus, of course, a Dem president to work with them.
So, it is up to us to work our asses off to give Biden a clear Dem majority in the House and Senate this year. Our future depends on it.
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Baitball Blogger
(46,745 posts)A protest infront of the Supreme Court Justice building. A peaceful one, but one with simple signs referring to January 6th. Just enough for them to feel a little uneasy. That's probably the only way for them to visualize what they're dealing with.
Irish_Dem
(47,160 posts)They have a guaranteed lifetime job.
Great salary and perks.
Can accept bribes with impunity.
No one can touch them for their crimes and wrong doing.
And they obviously enjoy controlling and punishing good people.
And covering up the crimes committed by bad guys.
What an evil to the bone bunch of people.
Baitball Blogger
(46,745 posts)for their families. I think it involved protests around their homestead.
So, they know that this kind of crowd appearance can be intimidating. Which makes it all stranger that they won't protect public buildings when the protesters of Jan. 6th, definitely were involved with an insurrection of the United States.
Irish_Dem
(47,160 posts)And to control and punish others.
Baitball Blogger
(46,745 posts)raison d'être.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,631 posts)On everything else, they appear to be acting as one would expect a Christian Nationalist majority court to act.
DENVERPOPS
(8,838 posts)just refuse to hear the case, until they can get Trump back as the occupying resident of the White House.
He will surely have the "WHITE" House repainted with horizontal colored stripes, of Red, White, and Blue.......
He already those colors of stripes, for the two NEW AIRFORCE ONE'S being built, but that exterior paint job was scrapped....
Anyone asking why,???????? just look at a Russian Flag.........
Fiendish Thingy
(15,631 posts)BlueKota
(1,761 posts)Also we have no idea what they will decide. I could be wrong but I really believe their main goal is to protect Trump and the Party.
They will hear the case next week.
Rule on case end of July or August, kick it back down and the delay is covered until the election.
Karadeniz
(22,541 posts)The Wizard
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is now Mediocre.
Irish_Dem
(47,160 posts)What they are doing to women is a crime.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,372 posts)what is wrong with them????????? let me count the ways....
Mr. Evil
(2,851 posts)There on a mission from gawd! That whole theocracy thing they're obsessed with. That thing we'll all just take sitting down.
I got news for them... fuck 'em!
BlueKota
(1,761 posts)always said you can't expect people who see themselves as religious martyrs to make reasonable decisions. Unfortunately too many people are in denial about what's happening right in front of our eyes, so nothing is being done to stop it.
Our side is playing by the "normal rules" of the game while the other side is cheating every chance they get. If they aren't going to play fair, I don't see how we can win without there being anyway to hold them accountable for breaking the rules. Now that avenue is being shut down by this SC. In the end I think our leaders have to cheat harder and smarter than them just to keep the fascists from taking over.
Old Enough 2
(90 posts)Most of these so called justices were trained by the Heritage Foundation with its affiliated Billionaires.
relayerbob
(6,545 posts)Why is this a surprise?
Joinfortmill
(14,438 posts)need to go
returnee
(44 posts)want to retire under a right wing radical president.
Just sayin.
spanone
(135,849 posts)Clarence should have recused.
Maga in the USSC.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Most probably did not entertain the concept that antagonistic people would be on SCOTUS trying to protect the destruction of the US, nor did they consider a grotesque individual like Trump would become president. IMO they are therefore lax in some areas of the Constitution.
BlueKota
(1,761 posts)I am surprised it held up as long as it did without someone else figuring out that leaving one branch virtually unaccountable to the two others, was a huge vulnerability to be taken advantage of.
riversedge
(70,253 posts)GreenWave
(6,759 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,921 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,074 posts)Simple as that. Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch are Republicans first, judges second.
The difference between the GOP and the Democratic Party is the Demnocratic Party respects the instutions of our government and the traditions that make our government free. The GOP saw a weakness, that they could install corrupt judges who will take orders from the party. The Democrats never would consider that because, although they nominate judges whose ideas reflect the parties, they would never dream of corrupting the Supreme Court with politics.
Demovictory9
(32,462 posts)NanaCat
(1,178 posts)Sometimes it really is that simple.
TexasDem69
(1,793 posts)Because none of the justices is that.
Sometimes courts disagree with you, but I havent seen anything that suggests the current justices are crooked, or corrupt, or taking bribes. In fact, theres zero evidence of that nonsense.
B.See
(1,260 posts)whether theyve "all fallen prey to the Trump spell" and are "totally disregarding the laws and our Constitution" tells me that some still haven't quite realized just who and what these SYCOPHANTS are,
or maybe it's just that some have difficulty accepting that such an institution, purportedly the highest order of law in the land
could be so illegitimately (perhaps even criminally) compromised as this court so obviously IS.
Two conservative"justices" who attend far right think tanks and are bought by conservative "donors" and "gift givers,"
one of whom is married to a treasonous co-conspirator in insurrection, two of whom are misogynists, accused of assault, testimony from hundreds of witnesses, suppressed for one.
Half of em I wouldn't trust to mind my dog, much less render "Justice."
NowsTheTime
(691 posts)Appointment of supreme court judges by a simple majority is a travesty that lead to extreme politicization of the court.
Xoan
(25,322 posts)they are the Mediocre Court.