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Actually, the gloves did fit... (Original Post) garybeck Apr 11 OP
Yup, I thought the same thing Farmer-Rick Apr 11 #1
One of the all time dumb juries. I recall one of them when asked about the dna evidence replied Floyd R. Turbo Apr 11 #4
This is pre CSI era, though Johonny Apr 11 #6
And snow they did! Floyd R. Turbo Apr 11 #7
There Is No Doubt In My Mind That The Jury Went Into The Trial With The Verdict Already Decided........ ChoppinBroccoli Apr 11 #9
Exactly correct in my opinion PCIntern Apr 11 #13
I missed that. LiberalFighter Apr 11 #12
One of the all time idiot judges too. CanonRay Apr 11 #29
It's tough putting snow boots on a kid that's uncooperative. Same deal. mobeau69 Apr 11 #2
and don't forget that the dried blood shrank the glove. niyad Apr 11 #3
Indeed. I found it incredibly disturbing the way he mugged to the jury wearing the gloves that were Floyd R. Turbo Apr 11 #8
ex-wife. niyad Apr 11 #22
I stand corrected! 😬 Floyd R. Turbo Apr 11 #25
I can testify to that. Butterflylady Apr 11 #15
u just have to wear them til they dry. mopinko Apr 11 #17
One of the secrets for why shoes fit mannequins so well NanaCat Apr 11 #23
Anyone Who Played Baseball Knows.......... ChoppinBroccoli Apr 11 #5
Base ball or H2O Man Apr 11 #11
DUzy worthy Brother Buzz Apr 11 #14
It was a terrible H2O Man Apr 11 #10
Exactly.. even I know that from Tv Law. Cha Apr 11 #28
I'm not sure H2O Man Apr 11 #30
Maybe if they get tfg to testify he'll come up with something equally assinine captain queeg Apr 11 #16
the latex gloves were too small crud Apr 11 #18
Exactly what I thought back then, the latex gloves made it more difficult. Silent Type Apr 11 #19
Having worked with leather... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 11 #20
I remember that Tom Tomorrow (Dan Perkins), the political cartoonist... keep_left Apr 11 #21
I was just looking ar the wiki page on Nicole Brown Simpson, and I niyad Apr 11 #24
Johnnie Cochran--from someone mchill Apr 11 #26
He was so guilty but his lawyers were able to prove the benefit of doubt. kimbutgar Apr 11 #27

Farmer-Rick

(10,420 posts)
1. Yup, I thought the same thing
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 12:32 PM
Apr 11

It was the weird way he was holding his hands and all the stupid people on the jury.

Floyd R. Turbo

(27,201 posts)
4. One of the all time dumb juries. I recall one of them when asked about the dna evidence replied
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 12:54 PM
Apr 11

“Everybody’s got blood!”

Johonny

(21,220 posts)
6. This is pre CSI era, though
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 12:59 PM
Apr 11

Today juries expect almost magical amounts of data like this. Back then it was easier to snow the jury on DNA evidence.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,796 posts)
9. There Is No Doubt In My Mind That The Jury Went Into The Trial With The Verdict Already Decided........
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 11

.........but that doesn't excuse the fact that the Prosecutors did a piss-poor job proving their case. I believe to my very core that OJ was guilty, but also that the jury got the verdict RIGHT. The Prosecutor didn't prove her case. And it's her own damn fault. Procedural/tactical mistake after mistake.

I heard in a seminar years ago that the Prosecutor's office tried this case to a mock jury 3 different times and lost all 3 times. And the main reason why (among many reasons) was that the juries ALL said they didn't believe her timeline. Yet she went into the trial and insisted on going forward with that exact same timeline. Making him try on the gloves was another huge mistake. The jury didn't need to see him try on those gloves. It was unnecessary, and it backfired.

The other big blunders she made were allowing him to change the venue of the trial to get a more favorable jury, and NOT asking for the death penalty. The reason for asking for the death penalty is tactical. He was a major celebrity. There's no way in hell that any jury would ever sentence him to death. But once you ask for the death penalty, you are required to seat a "death penalty qualified" jury. That means every juror seated has to state that if convicted, they would be willing to sentence the defendant to death. That gives you a much more prosecution-slanted jury.

That's why I tell people to this day, OJ is guilty, but the jury actually got the verdict right.

PCIntern

(25,866 posts)
13. Exactly correct in my opinion
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:18 PM
Apr 11

The most blu thing I would add, and this pure conjecture, is that I always thought his elder son was somehow involved. He was named in fact as a suspect, but he was not prosecuted and to my recollection was never or almost never at the trial.

No one ever mentioned him again.

Floyd R. Turbo

(27,201 posts)
8. Indeed. I found it incredibly disturbing the way he mugged to the jury wearing the gloves that were
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:03 PM
Apr 11

worn by his wife’s killer.

Butterflylady

(3,597 posts)
15. I can testify to that.
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:25 PM
Apr 11

Because everyone that owns real leather when it comes wet shrinks. Owned enough of leather gloves to know how to take care around anything wet.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
23. One of the secrets for why shoes fit mannequins so well
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 05:17 PM
Apr 11

In stores is that we used to mist them with water and let them 'mold' to the mannequin for a couple of days before displaying them. I used to do the same thing with new shoes--spray a fine mist over them, and wear them until they dried.

I haven't worn those kind of shoes in ages, though. Sneakers or sandals are all I wear now, LOL.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,796 posts)
5. Anyone Who Played Baseball Knows..........
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 12:55 PM
Apr 11

.............that when your batting gloves get wet, they harden and SHRINK. That's what leather does. I said the day this happened that the gloves wouldn't fit.

That's what water does. It shrinks things. SIGNIFICANT SHRINKAGE!!!

H2O Man

(74,042 posts)
10. It was a terrible
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 11

mistake by Chris Darden, one he later said just popped into his head. He had not spoken to Ms. Clark about making such a request. An attorney should not ask a question that she/he does not already know the answer to.

captain queeg

(10,697 posts)
16. Maybe if they get tfg to testify he'll come up with something equally assinine
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:34 PM
Apr 11

I hope he testifies. You know he wants to, but his lawyers aren’t that stupid to let him.

crud

(646 posts)
18. the latex gloves were too small
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:43 PM
Apr 11

and prevented him from pulling them all the way on.
The latex gloves didn't pull all the way on between his fingers.
my 2 cents

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,293 posts)
20. Having worked with leather...
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 04:45 PM
Apr 11

Leather shrinks when it has gotten wet and then dried. Leather is a skin. So of course, it shrinks.

keep_left

(1,876 posts)
21. I remember that Tom Tomorrow (Dan Perkins), the political cartoonist...
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 04:56 PM
Apr 11

...of This Modern World fame, got a hell of a lot of mileage from the OJ Simpson trial and its assorted characters. (Perkins was especially savage in his satirical depictions of Johnnie Cochran and Mark Fuhrman). I still recall Cochran's quip from one of the cartoons: "if the glove's too tight...then this case BITES!".

niyad

(115,098 posts)
24. I was just looking ar the wiki page on Nicole Brown Simpson, and I
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 05:23 PM
Apr 11

wanted to scream. According to the lead, she was stabbed to death, even though further in, describing the horrifying injuries, she was nearly decapitated. I will never forget how the fucking, football hero-worshiping cops failed her. She called to tell them her ex-had violated the restraining order, they asked for his autograph.

mchill

(1,029 posts)
26. Johnnie Cochran--from someone
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 09:07 PM
Apr 11

Who worked directly for him, felt OJ was innocent (for the record, I don’t). As a white person, I have no place in second guessing how a 11 out of 12 Black jury saw life living in La County while black. Add celebrity into the mix. That alone is a steep hill to climb.

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