Ohio threatening to keep Biden off general election ballot

[Nevilledog]

Biden may have trouble getting on Ohio’s general election ballot, state’s top election official warns

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-may-trouble-getting-ohios-general-election-ballot-rcna146706

Ohio’s secretary of state on Friday signaled that the Democratic National Convention may take place too late for President Joe Biden to appear on the general election ballot in the state, according to a letter obtained by NBC News.

“The Democratic National Convention is scheduled to convene on August 19, 2024, which occurs more than a week after the August 7 deadline to certify a presidential candidate to the office,” Secretary of State Frank LaRose wrote to Ohio Democratic Party Chairwoman Liz Walters.

ABC News first reported about the existence and content of this letter.

In the note, LaRose goes on to say that the oversight can be rectified in two ways: either by the Democratic Party moving up its nominating convention or by getting the Ohio state legislature to “create an exemption to this statutory requirement” by May 9 in accordance with state law.

A spokesperson for the Biden campaign told NBC News that the campaign is “monitoring the situation in Ohio and we’re confident that Joe Biden will be on the ballot in all 50 states.”

*snip*

LaRose is a MAGAt nutjob

[Think. Again.]

1. I find it hard to believe...

...that the Democratic Party wasn't fully aware of this and I'm sure they are on top of it.

[jimfields33]

2. Me too. Elections have been going on for 100's of years.

I do believe it will be settled positively.

[usonian]

5. Yes, but it's hard to stay on top of every new conspiracy theory.

I wonder how many new ones pop up every day.
Let's estimate 3 for every news item posted anywhere.
But I don't check in with every freeper and muskbot. In fact, none of them.

GOP has more crackpots than a loose bulldozer in a toilet factory.

[B.See]

8. "GOP has more crackpots than a loose bulldozer in a toilet factory."

Yes, but DANGEROUS crackpots, who've been hard at work, nationally, to RIG THE VOTE in their favor via a variety of underhanded tactics.

So never underestimate what these fkrs can't or WON'T do to achieve their goals.

Put nothing past them.

[Think. Again.]

14. THIS!

[MadameButterfly]

9. Since it's easier to make a new law than to move a convention

I suspect a number of Red states will try to do this. The concern of course is swing states. So much for denying Colorado's motion for making sure Republicans don't try to do it too. Of course they'll do it anyway.

[Captain Zero]

45. and this is Ohio Crackpots too

Or, Maybe this guy is a move-in from Indiana.

[Hekate]

3. What utter bullpuckey

[Botany]

4. Ohio is no longer a democracy. It is run by the GOP who work for the fossil fuel industry, other corps. ....

…. and Christo Fascist shits. This place is so gerrymandered that the congressional races
are over before the first vote is cast. Hopefully we can “Roe the Vote” this year and Biden/
Harris wins the state. LaRose is a right wing nut job who thinks that Jesus was sent to earth
so republicans can win and hold power.

[Abolishinist]

19. Gerrymandered? In the case of Gym Jordan, it's more like Duckmandered.

Some people say his district is very artfully crafted!

[Hope22]

44. Look in the dictionary under clusterfuck!

That’s it!

[Ms. Toad]

6. What am I missing?

There are laws which contain deadlines for qualifying for the ballot. The relevant law was last amended in 2014, and fixed the deadline at 90 days prior to the general election.

As currently scheduled, the Democratic Convention falls after the deadline for the outcome of the convention to qualify for the Ohio ballot.

How would we react if LaRose sent the same letter to the Ohio chair of the RNC? Wouldn't we be gleeful and insist the rules be followed?

[All Mixed Up]

21. I think you ask a great question. What are you missing?

If this law was established in 2014, why wasn't it used in 2020 when both conventions were held in August?

[Ms. Toad]

30. There are two alternatives -

at least according to the article - meet the deadline or seek an exception.

Without knowledge of what happened in 2020, it's hard to tell whether it was used or not.

My response was just to point out that most of the responses (when I posted mine) were creating some sort of MAGA conspiracy theory - rather than what is probably a routine part of the process of following the law or seeking an exception.

[All Mixed Up]

31. I know your point lol

But it's cute you think Republicans operate in good faith. 👍

[Ontheboundry]

39. Think I read

COVID has a play on the 2020 one 2016 was held in July tho, sooono idea.tbh

[Demsrule86]

32. The last convention in 16 was in July. This is bullshit. The GOP are worried they could

lose Ohio with Roe. And they want to hurt Sherrod Brown.

[sanatanadharma]

7. As I have read, a new law takes effect in August before the Democratic convention

Was the new law passed before or after the Democratic Party announced its convention date?

Edit to add
""I am left to conclude that the Democratic National Committee must either move up its nominating convention or the Ohio General Assembly must act by May 9, 2024 (90 days prior to a new law's effective date) ..." (my emphasis)

[Sympthsical]

10. It's talking about the legislature passing a potential fix

Basically, any law passed takes 90 days to come into effect. If they want to beat the Aug. 9th deadline, they need to fix the problem by May 9th.

There is no new law. It's just what's been on the books since 2014. For various reasons, the convention and Ohio certification dates are in conflict.

The legislature needs to patch it up by May, more or less.

[AverageOldGuy]

12. And if they don't patch it up?

Someone in Ohio and the White House needs to get busy and don't assume that the better angels of their nature will prevail.

[Hope22]

46. There are no better angels in the majority of Ohio State Legislators.

None! The R’s are sick. There will be more,m not less of this!

[All Mixed Up]

22. So why wasn't it enforced in 2020?

Both conversations happened in August that year.

[Demsrule86]

34. There was Covid in 2020 but in 2016 the convention was in July.

[Ontheboundry]

40. I'm guessing 2020

COVID had a play in it? Did they just decide not to enforce it in 2016? Reaching at straws.here

[All Mixed Up]

42. So it's not a hard-and-fast rule.

Sounds like they can easily make exceptions.

FWIW, I looked into it: the exception was actually made in 2019 after the dates of the conventions were announced. So, it wasn't even COVID related for the exception. Clearly sounds like they're just trying to screw over the Democrats.

[Demsrule86]

33. After, they are trying to disqualify Biden.

[Mysterian]

11. Yeah, that sounds legit

More buffoonery from a red state idiocracy.

[Ontheboundry]

17. I agree with what you are saying

But this one seems to be in the Democrats for scheduling it too late. I can't find any new law on this since 2014, and dems didn't have a problem since then, so this seems to have just slipped the crack

[All Mixed Up]

23. Both conventions were held in August in 2020.

So, why wasn't it enforced then?

[Demsrule86]

35. The convention was in JULY in 2016. I live in Ohio. This is an effort to disquaify Biden and

hurt Sherrod Brown.

[Old Crank]

13. Move the convention to the same week as the GOP

Convention. That will bury their convention.

[Joinfortmill]

15. The fuckery never ends.

[Xavier Breath]

16. Yep, sounds like us. n/t

[4lbs]

18. That's fine. Biden "lost" Ohio in 2020, and STILL WON.

It's not as important as one thinks anymore. Not for a Democratic candidate with a solid 50-state strategy, which Biden seems to have this time.

However, if Biden manages to win the state anyway in 2024, then it is definitely curtains for Dumpy the Clown. Hairy the Twit must win Ohio to stand any chance. He loses that state, he might as well be wearing an orange jumpsuit that matches his fake tan.

All Biden needs to do is repeat 2020 and he wins. I think he will win a few more states this time, and a few million MORE popular votes though.

[Hope22]

20. Um no...it's not f-ing fine!

WTF!!! It is not fine to take people’s votes away. We have Senator Sherrod Brown running for reelection, a Dem who has continued to get re-elected here even with the gerrymandered R state legislature! We need him in the Senate and we need voters to get to the polls! Try that without Biden on the ballot! By the way in November Ohio passed a vote for women’s reproductive rights and another to fix, for the third time, our gerrymandering debacle! The numbers were huge and our state legislature and SOS LaRosa continue to rat ##ck the people. They have yet to change the constitution as the people of Ohio voted overwhelmingly to do! There are many, many people to work to set things right but we are being held hostage by LAWLESS thugs! Good luck if Ohioans don’t get to vote for Biden. I’m sure they would loveeee to know the country doesn’t need them. Be very careful what you ask for. Sorry / not sorry for blowing up but you mirror others out here. Enough!

[Boomerproud]

36. It's my vote! I'm a taxpaying citizen since 1976.

This is madness.

[Hope22]

38. I'm sure it will all work out

But they just love to keep us on the raw edge! Every turn of a corner is an anxious event. It is simply too much to be held hostage by fools. Really, they are not smart folks but then look at what they can try to do to us. On a better note, I hope you get a good view of the eclipse on Monday! Stay safe!💗💗🙏🏼

[All Mixed Up]

24. What a wild take lol

If Biden wasn't on the ballot, that would absolutely hinder turnout and likely kill any hope of Brown winning reelection.

[Demsrule86]

37. Sherrord Brown is running you remember the Senator? And also, there is talk that Ohio given

Roe is in play. It can't be allowed period.

[Jose Garcia]

25. The Democratic National Committee probably has the authority to submit a nominee

[All Mixed Up]

29. They just need to declare Biden the nominee a month before.

It's not a set in stone requirement that the nominee is selected at the convention. That's all a formality nowadays anyway.

[raccoon]

26. So go ahead and secede already! :sarcasm:

[All Mixed Up]

27. Worst comes to worst, Dems just declare Biden the nominee through acclimation a month before the convention.

No actual law, outside party laws (that can be changed) says a nominee HAS to be selected at the convention. They could do a virtual vote a month before, declare Biden the nominee and problem solved.

[karynnj]

28. A third possibility - Biden is offered and accepts the nomination before the convention.

In 2004, an unforeseen consequence of Mccain/ Feingold was that the general election started with the acceptance of the nomination. This meant Kerry had 13 weeks over which he could spend his general election money. Bush had 8 weeks. Any leftover primary money could not be used.

Kerry supposedly considered promising to accept the nomination at a specific later date which would let him continue in primary mode. However, the idea was rejected especially as doing this at the convention could itself hurt because it could look like cheating even though it wasn't.

With Biden as a sitting President, the counting and acceptance could be done at an earlier event or non event to meet Ohio's rule.

One observation the incumbent convention is often after early April. Bush wanted his to include September 11.

[Ritabert]

41. Move the convention up

You could rent any venue and just do it.

[All Mixed Up]

43. They don't even have to do that...

They just need to officially nominate Biden a month before and then hold the convention.