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For all of 2020, Alex, a 28-year-old living in New York, followed the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Preventions (CDC) COVID-19 guidance religiously. Then, in 2021, something began to shift. That spring, the CDC said it was okay for vaccinated people to ditch their masks in most places. But people were clearly still getting sickincluding Alex, who got COVID-19 for the first time in late 2021 and later developed Long COVID symptoms.
There was this reckoning moment where it was like, Maybe the CDC is not being totally honest with us about the situation, he says. Maybe theyre trying to present it like we can go back to normal when we cant.
For Alex, who asked to use only his first name to protect his privacy, that feeling has only deepened. The virus killed roughly 1,000 people in the U.S. during the week ending March 2 and has left about 7% of U.S. adults with Long COVIDbut despite its continuing toll, real-time data on infections are limited, most mask mandates are gone, and isolation guidance has been scaled back.
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Though it may not feel like it, a significant portion of U.S. adults still care about COVID-19. In a KFF survey from late 2023, 26% of respondents said they were somewhat or very worried about catching the virus, and about half said they planned to take at least one precaution during the winter season, such as wearing a mask or avoiding large gatherings.
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https://time.com/6960789/covid-19-cautious-americans/
i guess i'm one of those 26% -- i mask at work and in the grocery store and any occasional trip i make to michaels or target and such. no one enters my living space without wearing a mask (and the only ones that come in are essential such as plumbers or company doing checks on fire alarm, etc. even tho i have 4 air filters), i don't go to crowded places -- haven't been to a restaurant or movie theater since before 2020. i work with a lot of kids and parents do not always keep them home when they are sick (with colds, bad colds, flu, and even fucking covid!) -- and they also don't teach them to cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze. when i visit my granddaughter i wear a mask unless we're outside b/c if i have something (such as covid) and am asymptomatic i certainly don't want to be passing that on to my 3 yr old grandbaby.
such is my life as a 26 percenter.
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oh well. i'm definitely used to it.
sometimes i just miss the "before" times
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CrispyQ
(36,792 posts)Most people are respectful but there are still a few who comment or make eyes or bee line right for you even though there's plenty of space to remain distanced.
I got a lot of questions from the guy who cuts my hair, yesterday. I told him people were still dying from COVID and it's not that big of an inconvenience for me to stay safe. I still mask at the supermarket and at restaurants but not while I'm at the table, and I see a few others on every trip. I still get dirty looks from some people. One big exception for me is a writing workshop I'm attending in June at a local college. They require proof of vaccination there and I attended maskless for two weeks last year without a problem.
Masking with effective masks in all closed spaces, tight crowds etc since 2020.
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)But I've got 5 vaccines on board and I'm not otherwise health-compromised.
A 28-year old catching Long Covid after the vaccines? Very rare.
Blues Heron
(5,987 posts)looks like you are more likely to get Long Covid in the younger age brackets. Surprising to me.
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)That survey probably includes the entire Covid era up to that point, though. Pre-vaccine.
CrispyQ
(36,792 posts)I have to say that chart is surprising, though.
jimfields33
(16,675 posts)The women were much more careful than us guys. When CDC said take off the masks, us guys rejoiced. The women kept theirs on longer. But they ended up getting it. Very strange.
meadowlander
(4,425 posts)and require close contact with a lot of people like teaching, nursing, childcare, hospitality, etc.
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)This is all of Covid through 2023:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/
I'd like to see a stat that shows deaths by age AFTER vaccines come available, or just 2023...
bluesbassman
(19,422 posts)My wife and I went to Cancun and when we got home we were the sickest either of us had ever been in our lives. Our doctors had no clue, just thought it was the flu. Took several weeks to clear up and then Covid hit and we knew what we had just gone through. Both of us got all of the shots and we both got mild cases in the fall of '22. My wife just got it again last January after another trip, but I didn't.
Aristus
(66,826 posts)across the nation. They got what they wanted. Nobody wants to be assaulted for acting in the public's best interests.
617Blue
(1,313 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(3,384 posts)Not there yet. IMO.
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)If you're not there now, you'll probably never get there. I think we're at where Covid will be from now on - endemic.
Prairie_Seagull
(3,384 posts)at the Sphere in Vegas. I probably would have risked it. I was willing to spend what it took. No such luck. I will get down there to see the Sphere but probably wear a mask but for U2's primier at the Sphere in Vegas. Well some things...
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)YOLO.
Prairie_Seagull
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Happy Hoosier
(7,610 posts)Its just part of the landscape now. Its up to each of us to determine if we were willing to engage with that landscape or not. Ive decided to engage. One change Ive made is that if I get sick, I mask up . Not something I did before.
Mr.Bill
(24,438 posts)than to see another Dune movie.
BannonsLiver
(16,679 posts)Same for early weekday afternoons. Early in the week is better. For some that might mean taking off work, though.
meadowlander
(4,425 posts)The first Dune movie was the first movie I saw in the theater after the lockdowns. I went 10 am on a Sunday and had the whole theater to myself.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,724 posts)ret5hd
(20,712 posts)but i consider myself among that 26%.
we (spouse and i) have managed
thru luck, vaccinations, and precautions
to completely avoid Covid.
we hope to keep it that way.
pazzyanne
(6,562 posts)Fully vaxed, but with a fatal autoimmune disease. My treatment includes killing all B cells and lowering my T cells, so unsure how much coverage I get from the vaccinations, but my doctors recommend getting all new vaccines. All shopping is done on line and groceries are picked up curbside. Haven't had Covid to this point, but still follow the pandemic protocols.
Coventina
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jimfields33
(16,675 posts)I think its over until 2120. Every 100 years it seems.
Coventina
(27,293 posts)It is very much still around.
I got it 1st time February 2024. I thank all the shots I got. It is still out there.
SergeStorms
(19,217 posts)I don't know how. I mask whenever out in public, hand sanitizer, wash hands religiously.
My Dr. put me on Paxlovid immediately and I never really got awfully sick.
I couldn't get rid of the virus from my body, though! I tested positive for 7 weeks without any symptoms.
Finally it let go and I was glad to be rid of it.
I'm still taking all the precautions. At 75 yrs. with a couple of co-morbidities I don't want to chance getting it again.
jimfields33
(16,675 posts)I got it in October 23 after a cruise. It was annoying. A bad cold. It did give me five free days off work though. For some reason my company didnt charge us sick or vacation time for lost days to Covid as long as you had a positive test from Walgreens or an acceptable medical place. I think they lifted the days off work now.
stage left
(2,977 posts)You must not live in a city. Or you run with a much younger crowd than I do. Or you don't look at stastistics. There are still people dying in the US by the thousands. I've not ever had Covid and I don't want to have it.
jimfields33
(16,675 posts)Wouldnt the news report that? We just had six unfortunate souls died a few days ago and its fully reported. Id think if its in those numbers, theyd still report on the news.
Blues Heron
(5,987 posts)Geography Date Weekly Deaths Death Data As Of
United States Mar 23, 2024 382 Mar 28, 2024
United States Mar 16, 2024 755 Mar 28, 2024
United States Mar 9, 2024 933 Mar 28, 2024
United States Mar 2, 2024 1,164 Mar 28, 2024
United States Feb 24, 2024 1,234 Mar 28, 2024
United States Feb 17, 2024 1,330 Mar 28, 2024
United States Feb 10, 2024 1,550 Mar 28, 2024
United States Feb 3, 2024 1,690 Mar 28, 2024
United States Jan 27, 2024 2,088 Mar 28, 2024
United States Jan 20, 2024 2,320 Mar 28, 2024
United States Jan 13, 2024 2,547 Mar 28, 2024
United States Jan 6, 2024 2,459 Mar 28, 2024
United States Dec 30, 2023 2,202 Mar 28, 2024
United States Dec 23, 2023 1,919 Mar 28, 2024
United States Dec 16, 2023 1,830 Mar 28, 2024
jimfields33
(16,675 posts)Pluvious
(4,417 posts)The entertainment news reports only what the viewers want to see
And that ain't COVID
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/
Maggiemayhem
(814 posts)About a month ago.
jimfields33
(16,675 posts)Im hoping they made it out ok with Covid.
meadowlander
(4,425 posts)My mom tested positive last night and one of my coworkers the day before yesterday. My sister-in-law is the most Covid-paranoid person I know and got it for the first time two weeks ago and then her whole family had it for the first time.
I think a lot of people just don't bother testing anymore and class it as another kind of flu.
jimfields33
(16,675 posts)Less then a few days.
Wednesdays
(17,747 posts)Yesterday. Covid.
It's not over by a long shot.
NutmegYankee
(16,234 posts)For the vast majority of American society, we have indeed gone back to normal. You occasionally get sick, but you rest a few days and then go right back to doing normal things.
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)We all need to be "somewhat worried" for the rest of our lives.
SergeStorms
(19,217 posts)Anyone over 50 with co-morbidities should be very careful. The virus has mutated so many times that the vaccines for the original strains may be useless in fighting off the disease.
I'm not willing to take that chance anyway. Your mileage may vary.
orleans
(34,202 posts)and if that's what you're doing that's not cool
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)And 28-year old Alex, who is shading close to Conspiracy Theories in his quote.
I only wear a mask on an airplane. Am I "somewhat worried"? I could say yes, I could say no. The legitimate concern that I still have, like Covid, is never going away.
This thread is filled with commenters who aren't "somewhat" worried. They're clearly still very worried. They are free to be as worried as they like; I respect their choice.
Skittles
(153,930 posts)most people don't give a DAMN about others
EllieBC
(3,121 posts)I find it weird that people only the US is this way. Its like they want the US to be extra bad when the rest of the world is pretty much doing the same.
Hell, our provincial policies surrounding Covid were less intense than some US states in 2020!
Chakaconcarne
(2,501 posts)Study Shows Hospital Outcomes for Flu and COVID-19 Have Become More Similar
COVID-19 Severity in Hospitalized Patients Has Declined Over Time with Flu Continuing to Cause Severe Disease
January 24, 2024 A new CDC study has found that more recent COVID-19 hospitalizations among adults experienced fewer severe outcomes than during earlier parts of the COVID-19 pandemic, and that the proportion of severe hospital outcomes from COVID-19 became more similar to adults hospitalized with flu. Most recently, when COVID-19 Omicron variants predominated, hospitalized flu and COVID-19 patients had similar levels of intensive care unit (ICU) admissions and use of supplemental oxygen, respiratory support, and invasive mechanical ventilation. Even the risk of death as an outcome became more similar across the two diseases, with the exception of among people 18 to 49 years, who continued to experience higher in-hospital deaths from COVID-19. This study underscores the fact that both diseases have the potential to be dangerous and that both warrant the compliance with CDC prevention and treatment recommendations.
2naSalit
(87,756 posts)I'll be flying commercial next week, I'll be wearing one on the flight.
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)That's where my stepson caught it last Xmas - sitting in an aisle seat. Unmasked.
XanaDUer2
(11,144 posts)Got vaccinated and thought that was enough. Ditched my mask bc I thought the cdc said I was protected. Caught it when sitting next to this beyotch in a Drs office (no more staff masking) who pulled her off saying she had allergies. I didn't get up or move like a moron. Then I brought it home
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)The vaccines DO protect you: they reduce the likelihood of contracting it, and mitigate the severity of the infection.
XanaDUer2
(11,144 posts)Messaging didn't seem clear to me
young_at_heart
(3,791 posts)last Thanksgiving I was exposed at a family dinner. Four days later I tested positive and because of my age, 84, I was given Paxlovid. It helped but I've never been so sick and am still having "left-over" problems. I am nervous whenever I leave my house and always wear a mask because I know I could get it again!
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)Please note that you didn't die. The vaccines helped you, even if you got really sick.
young_at_heart
(3,791 posts)The vaccines and boosters and Paxlovid kept me from being hospitalized also. My memory isn't the best, but I think something else is causing "that". The people denying the usefulness of the CDC's advice are so ignorant and also arrogant!
TBF
(32,304 posts)it's like the thing that should not be named.
I am immune suppressed due to meds so I was careful and managed to avoid it until late 2022. I was able to get Paxlovid, and symptoms were mild. I don't wear masks anymore, but I do get all my vaccines (I was good about that pre-Covid too, flu and pneumonia vaccines whenever recommended by my primary).
paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)Silent3
(15,619 posts)...must be a big part of the precautions taken by these people, because masked people in public have been fairly uncommon for a while now.
WestMichRad
(1,379 posts)Still mask up in indoor public places, but dont go out much. No movies, restaurants, etc, only shopping when needed.
Kind of depressing, but Id rather try my best to stay healthy.
meadowlander
(4,425 posts)but I always avoid crowded places at busy times anyway. I do all my shopping in the first hour that the store's open (often 7am for grocery stores) and exercise outside. I stopped wearing a mask when the guidance changed (I'm asthmatic and it's a misery trying to breathe through one). The only time I've caught Covid was on a 27 hour flight.
speak easy
(9,440 posts)PennRalphie
(129 posts)During my travels last month, I saw very few masks. Airports, hotels, Ubers, restaurants, ships. Those who wore them didnt get any grief,from what I could tell. Around here, it seems most people have come to the conclusion that the vaccines have worked to lessen the severity of COVID and life is normal.
Happy Hoosier
(7,610 posts)If folks want to mask, and isolate, go for it.
I'm mostly done with that. I isolated when I did get it. But I don't generally mask unless I'm coughing.
I test if I have symptoms.
But my one brush with it was quite mild. I feel relatively safe.
Oopsie Daisy
(3,088 posts)* not including visits to the doctor's office or hospital/lab where it's mandatory. Among those folks at the market or Costco or Target... we tend to spot each other and smile at each other in mutual recognition.
orleans
(34,202 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(3,088 posts)* when I say "mandatory" it's not a LAW, just a each facility's well-displayed and enforced policy. Especially in the BMT and the Lombardi Comprehensive Care center.
orleans
(34,202 posts)dlk
(11,700 posts)Covid is still killing Americans. For me, its just not worth the risk to leave my mask at home.
IronLionZion
(45,885 posts)We can mask if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't mask
And if they don't mask
Well, they're no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come
From out of this world
Leave the real one far behind
DENVERPOPS
(9,113 posts)I am comfortable with ANY statistics re Covid, even during the pandemic........Large Red States were not even reporting info on Covid Death's etc, specifically Florida and Texas. I suspect even smaller red states were not reporting either........
AND it has been reported that NONE of them are reporting current Covid statistics, including deaths attributed to Covid......
I would have to conclude that the current stats, are way way under what the stats really are in the U.S.
Not sure why we are trying to prosecute Trump for telling lies about a whore hookup, rather than charging him for genocide for his inaction during the pandemic, and Trump, Ivanka, and Jared's massive grifting of Gov't supplies of Protective Equipment.
It probably wouldn't take much energy to prove that his direct actions/in-actions resulted in the additional deaths of at least a million who didn't need to die.......
Back when it was the NDCC, (National Disease Control Center), that agency had a STELLAR reputation and doing a superb job.
Quality People and Quality Direction, as well as extremely thorough......Some where along the line, when it became the CDC it took what seems like a major hit by politicizing their organization..............to appease Trump, their leaders actions or in-actions caused countless more deaths and an un-fathomable cases of serious illness. (Which were seriously covered up)
The Covid crisis and countless other nightmares was massively assisted by Trump, The House Republicans and the Senate Republicans.They all were in lock step to create a frankenstein's monster that has been released on the entire population of the United States. A few, Mary Cheney, etc are now, finally screaming their heads off, but most of the Senate and House are still 100% in lockstep with Trump.......
If Trump and his band of merry Republicans take control again, they have already promised to get rid of each and every regulatory agency in the entire Federal Government..........and turn the U.S. into another Tyranny like Russia, China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Belarus, etc etc etc. And all the Uber Rich Republicans, and the Fortune 500 of Corporations are donating un-limited amounts of money along with the tyrant controlled foreign governments to once and for all deep-sixing our economy and our beloved Democracy.
The Trump Humpers, all 70 million Republican Voters, are not only ignorant, but stupid. And the brainwashing that Fox News and Right Wing Radio has done on them is incredible........
I think of hopes that Biden and the Dems win on November 5, and then I think of what will happen if they do win in light of J6th.......
Their 70 million voters will create pandemonium across every state in the union. Bet on it........
We may not even get to that point after their sabotage of the voting in America, resulting in a Trump Win. Think 2000, 2004, and 2016 for starters of elections they corrupted and stole.....
Katie Bar The Door folks
speak easy
(9,440 posts)Prairie Gates
(1,258 posts)Indeed, it lowballs it at 1000, when YOUR source says 1164.
Response to Prairie Gates (Reply #42)
speak easy This message was self-deleted by its author.
thucythucy
(8,251 posts)was 1,164, which I think is the week to which the article refers.
The number seems to ebb and flow from week to week, though the latest trend seems to be downward.
From July 23 to early January it was on an upswing, with 3,869 deaths the firsr week of January.
Hopefully the downward trend will continue.
speak easy
(9,440 posts)thucythucy
(8,251 posts)I used to write for publication. Stuff I wrote wouldn't necessarily appear the same week, or even the same month.
speak easy
(9,440 posts)Delta took away most of my sense of smell and food tastes bland but the fact is, COVID since Omicron is not the same disease that I caught. This winter Influenza killed more people (22 - 65K - per CDC) than COVID. If people still want to keep wearing masks and distancing - fine. That provides good protection against the flu as well as COVID. But the idea that guidance has been loosened because people don't care about COVID anymore is just not true.
thucythucy
(8,251 posts)Aside from Covid, I have close friends with cancer who are in chemo, and I don't want to take the chance of spreading something to them while their immune systems are so compromised. Because so few people mask, they're forced to live under virtual house arrest, or risk getting sick every time they go out. Not that everyone masking would eliminate the danger, but it would definitely mitigate it, and at such small cost to the general public.
So it pisses me off that such a trivial inconvenience was and is seen by so many as evidence of what? Tyranny? Wokeness? A bridge too far?
Imagine the contemporary reaction if we were asked, as people were during WWII, to comply with gas and food rationing. Imagine having to obey blackout restrictions for those along the coast, so enemy submarines couldn't pick off freighters at night.
Tyranny! Wokeness! Whaaaaahhh!!!
maxsolomon
(33,620 posts)Covid is now endemic. It is never going away. It is unrealistic to expect the population to continue to observe pre-vaccine precautions indefinitely. It is Human nature to want to return to normalcy.
If you mask when you visit them, and they mask when out in public, odds are good it will work out.
Sympthsical
(9,238 posts)Reading between the lines, the article drips with potential mental or social disorders that go very weirdly unmentioned. Almost as if the writer themselves couldn't catch what was wrong with what some of these people were saying about how they cope with their lives.
I bet.
The article cites 1,000 Covid deaths in a week. Meanwhile, 22,000 people have died of flu this season. Covid is endemic. That's just how it's going to be now. Get your vaccines, monitor your health. Same as flu season. The people who are at risk during flu are at risk during Covid. Proceed accordingly.
But society is not going to mold itself around the situation like it did during the pandemic. Those days are gone. Everyone has to adjust to a world that operates, more or less, like it did before the pandemic. This is a good thing. People who keep framing it as bad - as this article's tone and slant clearly do - yeah. That's a you problem.
thucythucy
(8,251 posts)or who are otherwise immune compromised can just fuck off.
Also the elderly, at greater risk of air borne infection, screw them too!
It's all about me me me. Society needs to mold itself around me.
And wearing a piece of cloth on my face when in public is simply too horrible for me to contemplate. I mean, cloth?! On my face?!!!
So what if other cultures do it as a matter of routine? This is 'merica! No masks, but we get to carry a gun everywhere we go because: danger!!!
Just in case it's needed: sarcasm:
Ace Rothstein
(3,228 posts)I've been to Europe three times in the past two years and virtually nobody wears a mask here. Perma-masking was never going to be a thing, most people hate wearing masks and don't want to live in a faceless society.
thucythucy
(8,251 posts)and obeying speed limits as well.
I admit that there are only a few cultures where masking is common. Doesn't change a thing, except to demonstrate that it isn't the soul crushing horror some people profess it to be.
But I accept that most people would rather risk the lives of others than suffer any inconvenience themselves.
It's a major impetus behind the lack of response to climate change, after all.
Sympthsical
(9,238 posts)The immuno compromised will have to take measures. Just like they did before Covid.
I know some people don't want society to return to normal, but that was never going to happen for them.
And I'm not against masking for personal protection. I'm going to be bouncing across five airports and six different flights in April when I will also be around three separate rather large gatherings. I'll take what precautions I feel I need to. It will include wearing a mask on the plane at the very least.
Covid is no longer a pandemic nor an emergency. We get to make our decisions on how best to protect ourselves. Other people get to make their choices. But the idea an authoritarian system is going to clamp down on everyone again.
It's not going to happen. And people need to accept that reality.
thucythucy
(8,251 posts)The reality being that most people would rather put someone else's life in danger rather than suffer a mild inconvenience to their own.
I don't, however, have to like it.
beaglelover
(3,546 posts)Orrex
(63,434 posts)I'm not immune-compromised, but several people in my life are vulnerable, so I try not to increase their risk, and I endure the minimal nuisance of a mask.
Even here in the safe space of DU, the sentiment has been mocked and trivialized by those who can't possibly stand to consider another's well-being over their own convenience.
Americans will go to great lengths to protect others, as long as it doesn't require any effort or any change to their routine or any inconvenience at all.
Warpy
(111,798 posts)I couldn't taste or smell for weeks, which they finally admitted was a hallmark symptom of it. It was bad enough that I sympathize with people suffering from long Covid. Yes, it's real.
People with long Covid have been found to be shedding Covid DNA in their feces, although not the infectious virus, itself. Masking is likely not necessary., although I'm certainly not going to nag anyone else over it, it might be a good idea in flu season.
More research needs to be done on long Covid, that seems pretty certain. Obviously the DNA continues to replicate in the GI tract, either in the gut bacteria or the gut, itself.
I haven't masked in public since vax compliance hit 90% here in the state and local public health said it wasn't necessary unless we were feeling ill. I still see masked people occasionally, their choice. In other states hwere the antivaxers were numerous, keeping up with the stats on local outbreaks is a good idea, you can find your county at https://covidactnow.org/?s=49593704 The map is interactive and updated frequently.
newdayneeded
(1,976 posts)I had covid a couple of November's ago and lost my taste and smell. just a few weeks ago I had one of the nastiest chest and nasal colds ever. I lost my taste and smell for a week. I tested twice for covid, negative both times. it happens even without covid.
electric_blue68
(15,386 posts)...like in my previous neighborhood where a bunch of people would be sitting around, and have their grills on the sidewalk, couldn't walk by them easily.
I always have a mask w me. I do go to parks, gardens unmasked.
I think I ate once with my sis last year in a semi indoor spot w more empty seats than not, otherwise not fully inside yet. Otherwise it's been in the then sheds. No movies yet.
🤔 Maybe the thing w movies now would be after some big movie got past it's first ?2 weeks, or so I'd go to the earliest show, or the 1PM, 2PM show when people are really sitting fat apart. 🤔
Since I can't really afford concerts any more I'd go stand, or sit outside of an open air venue away from people.
EnergizedLib
(1,916 posts)I prefer to give fist bumps instead of handshakes.
And I have not a care what others say or think.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,618 posts)Am vaxxed and boosted many times and never succumbed to the virus but still worry about it to a degree since there's a large faction of anti-vaxxers playing russian roulette with their lives. The more you let it infect, the more it will morph into different variations making it impossible to control. Still, I am more worried about the domestic terrorists in our country than COVID 19.
sybylla
(8,597 posts)Idiots didn't get that I was buying lots of Mucinex, and air purifier, and other cold meds because I was in a hotel with hubs who brought it from work along with us on vacation. I really, really wanted to cough in their direction, because by then I was in the early stages of it.
That was my first infection. I've caught it a second time since after having a meeting with my accountant in his office. Big mistake. I was masked. He wasn't. I'm now looking for a new accountant. That meeting could have been a fucking phone call. I should have slathered myself in hand gel after I left, but I didn't. So that's on me, too. I was just so happy to be out of there.
IcyPeas
(22,065 posts)I'm in a big city and when I go shopping I pretty much always see some... not all... staff wearing masks. I always think that's smart as they are in such close proximity to hundreds of customers a day.
Nowadays when I see someone wearing a mask I consider it part of the new normal.
Gore1FL
(21,251 posts)I've felt bad plenty of times before testing was available.
MOMFUDSKI
(6,282 posts)had Covid. We finally took a chance 2 weeks ago and went to a restaurant with friends and sat inside. All OK. I have been to dentists and dermatologists where I could not wear a mask in the exam room, of course. I have had 5 vax and husband has had 6. Covid will be here forever.
stage left
(2,977 posts)Covid will be here forever. My daughter calls me an elder, but by any measure I'm elderly. I'm 75. I'll take all the vaccinations they give. I mask, but go out to eat at rare intervals with people I know are also vaxxed to the max. We prefer to eat outside if the weather is good and the restaurant has a porch and patio . Many do. And it usually is nice in SC until late June.
catbyte
(34,705 posts)just getting my mail and have hand sanitizer in my car to use after going anyplace. I don't want to jinx anything, but I haven't had so much as a cold since late 2019 so I'm doing something right. I buy Dial antibacterial soap in bulk now, lol.
Like I said, I hope I didn't just jinx myself writing that down.
Hope22
(2,002 posts)We dont eat out or meet in large groups anymore. When I go in a store I mask up. If I had to wait in a doctors office I would do the same. For years we have missed weddings and parties but I am unable able to beg out of a family wedding tomorrow so we will sit in the back, out of the way and put a mask on if there are coughers. If there is a place to gather outside we will do that. When we come home we will shower, use our nasal saline and a concoction of essential oils in a cup of steaming water. It is called cup of death and if you google it the recipe will be there.
When I remember the days before vaccines and the world expected seniors to hide away it really hits hard. It wasnt the isolation so much as everyone going on about their business, prolonging the problem and helping the virus mutate compounding the problem. . That is why when I wear my mask in public I do not have a care about what others think. We have to look out for ourselves. Stay safe. 😊💗🙏🏼
deurbano
(2,898 posts)all we can to avoid COVID, too. She doesn't need any additional negative impact on brain functioning, and she also had lymphoma (with a tumor on her esophagus) in 2013, which resulted in 5 months in the hospital (and more recovery at home after that), so avoiding any more impact on her lungs has been another consideration. She (now 50) and I (69) finished our undergraduate degrees at Berkeley during COVID (I had to go in person, wearing a highly ranked mask at all times, while she was able to do it remotely from our home in San Francisco)... but otherwise, our lives have been much more constrained than before. We only go to restaurants with outdoor seating and wear masks inside places not out home. If anyone comes inside our house, they wear a mask or test beforehand. Mainly it's just our younger children (25-yr-old son/wife and 21-yr-old daughter) who come inside, but we've also had several backyard parties. My husband got COVID on a business trip, and my younger daughter (in grad school in LA) has had it twice, but my son has never tested positive. (I find it hard to believe he hasn't gotten it without knowing it, though, since he's much less careful than his younger sister.) He got married during this time, too, and we timed our vaccinations to be about two and a half weeks before the event, so we could go mask free without too much worry. (And it was a time of lower prevalence.) We've used that strategy for trips to the East Coast, too, since my older daughter has had as couple of in-person meetings for the National Council on Disability, and those involved trips to Washington and Rhode Island (and we also went to Manhattan). But we still wore masks most of the time indoors, and found outside dining. I'm getting sick of it, though, and wish they'd come up with a daily nasal spray or some other preventative measure. My older daughter does a lot of Zoom call meetings, pretty much every day, but she used to be out all day everyday, using public transportation, and that's so hard to imagine now.
This is my son interpreting for my daughter at a Speaker Emerita Pelosi event in January. She and I always wear masks for these types of events: https://imgur.com/a/TsChqQl
ClickClack
(59 posts)It is indeed difficult to be among those of us who are aware that while most folks want to believe we are done with Covid, Covid is not done with us.
Earlier this month, I flew round-trip from Nevada to Florida to visit my elderly mother. My flight to FL was non-stop; my return trip involved two flights. On all three flights, I wore an N-95 mask, but do not recall seeing more than a couple of other passengers wearing masks. I'm 70 and my wife is 68; neither of us has compromised immune systems or other conditions placing us at heightened risk except for our ages. We go out to restaurants without wearing masks and have also gone to movie theaters three times in the past 12 months unmasked, although we always avoid sitting very close to others. It helps to choose films and show-times that are likely to be draw big crowds. ("The Zone Of Interest" drew only us and one other audience member when we saw it in a theater on Super Bowl Sunday.)
I do most of our grocery shopping and no longer wear a mask there but I also maintain a respectable distance from other shoppers. If they cough or sneeze, I move away fast.
A good friend of mine in California has a wife with a weakened immune system, so they monitor websites that report location-specific Covid numbers based on hospitalizations and wastewater measurements. He says he knows at least a half-dozen people across a couple of states who have tested positive for Covid within the past year. He also tells me that a few of them presumed incorrectly that they merely had caught a cold or seasonal flu, and thus waited too long before taking a Covid test, which meant that they could not benefit from Paxlovid, which apparently is only effective if administered early. A couple of his friends developed Long Covid, one of whom ended up dying from impaired organ function.
Mountainguy
(698 posts)its there to ensure public health. Covid isn't a threat to public health anymore. We have vaccines, we have treatments, and the virus itself isn't novel and isn't causing the types of infections at the type of scale it did 4 years ago.
meadowlander
(4,425 posts)So I think the approach people are seeing now is that if individuals want to manage their risk by continuing to mask up, get every booster and socially distance they can continue to do that but at a society level, we no longer need the same level of restrictions because the risk of so many serious cases in the same area outrunning the number of ventilators is no longer an issue.
LetMyPeopleVote
(147,369 posts)I am still very careful about COVID