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Very interesting data, HUGE decline in right-wing media consumption and traffic. (Original Post) kpete Mar 27 OP
They're all dead. Hugin Mar 27 #1
The majority of right-wing viewers were always one foot in the grave anyway. Crowman2009 Mar 27 #12
Sure, but they raised children. Children never born racists. Highest indicator for racism is having racist parents. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 27 #20
That's unless said children grow up, leave the house, and never talk to their parents ever again. Crowman2009 Mar 27 #23
And some of us are raised by racist parents, but.... ShazzieB Mar 27 #58
And we're grateful for each and every one! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 27 #60
That was the case with my sister and me. ChazInAz Mar 28 #71
My mother, for example. Aristus Mar 28 #82
I was scrolling down to say they were sick of MAGA shit, but then realized your post was probably more accurate. TheBlackAdder Mar 27 #14
Or in prison, maybe they don't allow them to listen to that garbage. Bev54 Mar 27 #29
Actually, every prison I know of blasts fux nooz 24/7. The prisoners are programmed to hate "liberals". BComplex Mar 28 #78
Can't say I dispute this, I have never been inside a prison for any reason. It just seems to me that Bev54 Mar 28 #83
I totally agree! It definitely WOULD be in the best interest of a prison NOT to further indoctrinate BComplex Mar 28 #84
Indeed, COVID has wiped out hundreds of thousands of them Wednesdays Mar 27 #54
Some might be in prison soldierant Mar 28 #65
Post removed Post removed Mar 28 #74
K&R! Very interesting data indeed jmbar2 Mar 27 #2
Stats might be misleading. Reich wing audiences are volatile now; many say Fox is too liberal Bernardo de La Paz Mar 27 #31
Also have noticed more MSM articles than in the past jmbar2 Mar 27 #34
And a science poster or two. Plus enormous number of "my body did something; how're the kids" posts Bernardo de La Paz Mar 27 #38
Less Trump signs Owens Mar 28 #76
Good to hear! jmbar2 Mar 28 #80
Russian amplifiers diverted to catapult their own propaganda? tanyev Mar 27 #3
My thought as well Clash City Rocker Mar 28 #77
They're going to need dweller Mar 27 #4
encouraging....perhaps the dam is starting to break. SalamanderSleeps Mar 27 #5
To me this suggests that the bulk of the traffic was bots drray23 Mar 27 #6
Good point PatSeg Mar 27 #19
Yep, bet it was tons of bots. machoneman Mar 27 #30
I thought you were right NJCher Mar 27 #40
There might be a down trend drray23 Mar 27 #44
Especially if Biden and the shitbag are so close in polling. Probatim Mar 28 #75
Yep kpete Mar 27 #51
The RW sites had been hyping impeachment and Hunter. Qutzupalotl Mar 27 #7
Image... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 27 #8
Truth Social? Johnny2X2X Mar 27 #16
I don't see that in the chart, which is from the OP. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 27 #17
TS is not a news web site. Same reason you don't see twitter/x or facebook there either. n/t thesquanderer Mar 27 #25
Interesting specifics, if accurate. yardwork Mar 27 #27
"Fox News only down a little" SergeStorms Mar 27 #43
Fox News is tied for Fourth best... druidity33 Mar 27 #59
They're reading their bibles. Too busy self-flagellating. lindysalsagal Mar 27 #9
I can picture them now..... SergeStorms Mar 27 #46
Those wouldn't happen to be trump bibles, would they? calimary Mar 28 #69
Feb/March 2020 is also when Covid started ramping up Sympthsical Mar 27 #10
Maybe there are very few that get all the attention. Like Tucker Carlson JI7 Mar 27 #11
again, smelvis is et tu Mar 27 #13
I'd also be interested to see the statistics on right wing hate radio. Sky Jewels Mar 27 #15
Plus who the f*** under age 40 listens to AM radio? Crowman2009 Mar 27 #24
There's a lawsuit right now.... SergeStorms Mar 27 #47
If they want Hate radio then charge them an extra $5000. flying_wahini Mar 28 #81
Works for me. SergeStorms Mar 28 #85
Sports is on AM radio (NT) GenThePerservering Mar 27 #64
a bunch of them are in jail for participating in the insurrection - so there's that. nt TBF Mar 27 #18
The time period is Feb 2020 to Feb 2024 IronLionZion Mar 27 #21
There is a cure for Trump Cult Derangement. Kid Berwyn Mar 27 #22
Only if they take it. Think. Again. Mar 27 #32
AM talk radio.... SergeStorms Mar 27 #48
Very creative and very true. LastDemocratInSC Mar 27 #53
I think head is misleading. NYT is down just as much as Fox. Wash Post is down far more than either of them. thesquanderer Mar 27 #26
NYT is very much rightwing.... Think. Again. Mar 27 #33
WaPo is a moderate publication with plenty of liberal points of view. yardwork Mar 27 #35
The "center" has been allowed to be dragged so far to the right... Think. Again. Mar 27 #36
Seriously? You're going to put NYT and WP in the same category as Newsmax et al? thesquanderer Mar 27 #42
Yeah, I wasn't comparing how far right they are to each other..... Think. Again. Mar 27 #45
I'd like to see a similar data load for left wing sites OnlinePoker Mar 27 #37
Look at the chart, the data is there for non-RW sites as well (left and moderate) thesquanderer Mar 27 #41
That "perception of no one you can trust" bdamomma Mar 28 #79
Both NYT and WaPo are dogging their paywalls FakeNoose Mar 27 #57
but I don't think the paywalls there any more of a factor than they were a year ago. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 27 #62
Lots of competition out there for the viewing public. Plus, this right-wing hate stuff is getting boring and SWBTATTReg Mar 27 #28
I used to go to (and post regularly) John Farmer Mar 27 #39
I'm hoping that it boils down to Rage-For-Profit has finally hit its peak. Torchlight Mar 27 #49
K&R liberalla Mar 27 #50
Evangelicals enid602 Mar 27 #52
They may be right. Joinfortmill Mar 28 #73
I think a bunch migrated to social media ... Jarqui Mar 27 #55
More on social media IbogaProject Mar 27 #56
I've noticed in a few local and state reddits that... Captain Zero Mar 28 #70
It probavly just means Mountainguy Mar 27 #61
The Message Stagnated DallasNE Mar 27 #63
Another ray of hope Harmony Starshine Mar 28 #66
Lies Get Old And Tired HandmaidsTaleUntold Mar 28 #67
Good, maybe the morons finally realized they have been consuming bullshit. Kick GoodRaisin Mar 28 #68
Good. Wishing for the demise of FoxNews. May they rot in hell. Joinfortmill Mar 28 #72

Hugin

(33,148 posts)
1. They're all dead.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:28 AM
Mar 27

I can't think of any other thing which would tear them away from their beloved hate-o-vision.

Or, maybe, they were liars about their views in the past. Nah, that couldn't be it.

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
12. The majority of right-wing viewers were always one foot in the grave anyway.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:35 PM
Mar 27

I can't wait for the day when all the old racists from the Jim Crow era finally become extinct.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
20. Sure, but they raised children. Children never born racists. Highest indicator for racism is having racist parents. nt
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:07 PM
Mar 27

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
58. And some of us are raised by racist parents, but....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:29 PM
Mar 27

...have better sense than to adopt our paents' racism!

ChazInAz

(2,569 posts)
71. That was the case with my sister and me.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 09:41 AM
Mar 28

We grew up in an immigrant neighborhood of Eastern Europeans in Springfield, Illinois. The Black neighborhood started on the next street over. Probably explains my life-long liberalism.

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
82. My mother, for example.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 11:34 AM
Mar 28

She was raised in Alabama, and later Texas, by two ultra-conservative Southern Baptist racists.

My mother has always been a dyed-in-the-wool, Kennedy-style liberal, without a racist bone in her body, and she's very LGBTQ-friendly. She raised me, my brother, and my sister to be the same way.

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
14. I was scrolling down to say they were sick of MAGA shit, but then realized your post was probably more accurate.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:43 PM
Mar 27

BComplex

(8,051 posts)
78. Actually, every prison I know of blasts fux nooz 24/7. The prisoners are programmed to hate "liberals".
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 11:04 AM
Mar 28

Liberals are also the party that tries to reform prisons, bring books and programs to prisons, and try to rehabilitate those who are not beyond rehabilitation.

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
83. Can't say I dispute this, I have never been inside a prison for any reason. It just seems to me that
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:02 PM
Mar 28

it would be in the best interest of a prison not to further indoctrinate inmates into hatred.

BComplex

(8,051 posts)
84. I totally agree! It definitely WOULD be in the best interest of a prison NOT to further indoctrinate
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:47 PM
Mar 28

inmates into hatred, but you have to consider the authoritarian nature of the vast majority of prison management and staff...they truly do employ mostly authoritarian types. And management and staff are the ones who get to choose the channels that are played, for the most part, and in most (not all) prisons.

Wednesdays

(17,376 posts)
54. Indeed, COVID has wiped out hundreds of thousands of them
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:24 PM
Mar 27

It's still a small percentage of voters, but in a close election it could become decisive.

soldierant

(6,874 posts)
65. Some might be in prison
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:39 AM
Mar 28

Certainly not enough to account for those numbers - but might still be a part of them.

Response to Hugin (Reply #1)

jmbar2

(4,886 posts)
2. K&R! Very interesting data indeed
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:29 AM
Mar 27

I regularly cruise the Freepers to see what's going on in their small minds.

Postings seem to have dropped a lot, very few championing tRump, and they seem to have trouble raising the $81,000/quarter that they claim to need to keep that troglodyte website operating.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
31. Stats might be misleading. Reich wing audiences are volatile now; many say Fox is too liberal
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:35 PM
Mar 27

They shift around a lot.

There would be a lot of RW media sites coming up fast on the outside, not included in that tabulation. Some didn't even exist four years ago; most notably Tucker Carlson's independent outlet. Epoch Times gets a lot of traffic now, I'm sure, judging by citations.

As to the FReak site, they seem just as active, but kind of subdued. They are deep into "dems gonna steal it" funks. But surprisingly there are quite a number of anti-tRump posts. Even posts highlighting tRump's criminality.

All the same, I fully expect there to be the same kind of site-wide prohibition against anti-tRump posts as in 2020, laid down by site owner RimJob when tRump is formally nominated as he is almost certainly going to be whether or not he has further convictions by that date.

jmbar2

(4,886 posts)
34. Also have noticed more MSM articles than in the past
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:45 PM
Mar 27

Plus some interesting posts about archeology, similar to what JudiLynn posts here.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
38. And a science poster or two. Plus enormous number of "my body did something; how're the kids" posts
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:00 PM
Mar 27

There's a lot of chaff to zip over, but they have become a lot more amusing in the past three years than the four before that.

{ proposed trucker boycott of NYC }
Can you just imagine the scrambling going on right now. Betcha grocery
store shelves are empty, or very close to it.
4 posted on 2024-02-18 by ryderann

Former United States Representative Tulsi Gabbard addresses CPAC 2024 in Washington, D
2024-02-23, 136 of 136
mewzilla to Persevero
She’s Deep State.

Newsmax is just as corrupt as the rest of them.
150 posted on 2024-02-23, by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5: 9) 9-18-21)

"The country is being divided into people who make things and people who don't."
And people who are compromised by child traffickers, and those who aren't.
55 posted on 2024-02-23, by kiryandil

Owens

(197 posts)
76. Less Trump signs
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 10:45 AM
Mar 28

I've seen fewer Trump signs here in Arizona - Phoenix area. Even my neighbors no longer have Trump signs.

drray23

(7,629 posts)
6. To me this suggests that the bulk of the traffic was bots
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:45 AM
Mar 27

and whomever paid to have these bots amplify right wing disinformation and conspiracy theories pulled the plug.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
40. I thought you were right
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:14 PM
Mar 27

and rec'd this post. Subsequent to that, however, the chart below was posted. There's an overall downward trend, even among what they call "mainstream sites" like Washington Post, NY Times, CNN, etc.

Remember how a few months ago the administrators told us that advertising $$ was down here at DU?

Maybe it's an overall trend, regardless of whether it's conservative or left leaning.

drray23

(7,629 posts)
44. There might be a down trend
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:32 PM
Mar 27

But numbers like 80 % less traffic seem too big to be just attributed to people who suddenly decided it's no longer interesting to them.
It's well documented that X( Twitter) had a large fraction of bot accounts for example. It's similar on any major media site.

Probatim

(2,529 posts)
75. Especially if Biden and the shitbag are so close in polling.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 10:32 AM
Mar 28

Can't imagine you'd have a 90% drop in traffic if the viewers have changed their minds and not see that in the polling - it has to be bot traffic.

Qutzupalotl

(14,312 posts)
7. The RW sites had been hyping impeachment and Hunter.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:53 AM
Mar 27

Didn't work out like they hoped. Now inflation is easing, the economy is rebounding, Trump sounds even crazier…

yardwork

(61,619 posts)
27. Interesting specifics, if accurate.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:27 PM
Mar 27

Newsmax viewership is up. Fox News only down a little. Most other right wing sites way down. But WaPo and NYT viewership is down, too.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
43. "Fox News only down a little"
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:31 PM
Mar 27

Down 22% is "only a little"?

That's far more than a little.

I'm glad you're not my investment manager.

Newscrax has a far smaller audience than Fox, so their increase looks bigger percentage-wise, but in reality isn't that many people. People will probably tire of Newscrax after a while. They're nuttier than squirrel shit over there.

All-in-all, I'd say the right-wing propaganda Wurlitzer is pretty far out of tune, if you ask me (which you didn't) 😉

Have a Democratic day, yardwork.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
59. Fox News is tied for Fourth best...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:43 PM
Mar 27

on that list. They're tied with CNN. DKos at -4% and Newsmax at +38% beat them. So i guess the point is EVERYONE's numbers are down... Fox's is one of the least down.



lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
9. They're reading their bibles. Too busy self-flagellating.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:11 PM
Mar 27

Maybe they went blind from all the incel pocket-hockey.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
46. I can picture them now.....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:38 PM
Mar 27

People walking around in MAGA hats, wearing their Trump sneakers, reading their Trump approved Trump bibles.......walking into trees, telephone poles, over steep cliffs, down long flights of stairs. Hey, maybe all that Trump merchandise isn't so bad after all.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
69. Those wouldn't happen to be trump bibles, would they?
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 03:17 AM
Mar 28

How do we know those bibles aren't just stacks of trump speeches, packaged as books?

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
10. Feb/March 2020 is also when Covid started ramping up
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:19 PM
Mar 27

So I'm not sure if saying "Let's compare election years" as if nothing else was going on is really useful in any way.

It doesn't feel apples to apples.

That said, even on the Right, I perceive people are just tired of hearing about Trump. They're over it.

They'll still vote - and we should behave as if they will - but in the spaces I read, I see a lack of enthusiasm or even willingness to really discuss very much about him. Most people already know where they're at in all this.

Sky Jewels

(7,101 posts)
15. I'd also be interested to see the statistics on right wing hate radio.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 12:46 PM
Mar 27

I can't imagine that it is growing its audience. Younger people use Spotify and such. The radio-listening, Reagan-worshipping, right-wing-propaganda- susceptible types who belong to generations born before the 1960s are rapidly declining in numbers.

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
24. Plus who the f*** under age 40 listens to AM radio?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:18 PM
Mar 27

I can't remember the last time I turned it to the AM band.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
47. There's a lawsuit right now....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:48 PM
Mar 27

to have U.S. auto-makers continue to include AM radio in all their new cars.

It seems the auto-makers wanted to discontinue the AM band on the radios of their new models, and right-wing nuts went crazy(er) about it. How else were they to listen to far-right talk radio without the AM band in their cars?

To my knowledge the case is still pending. Stay tuned (so to speak) to see how this pans out.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
21. The time period is Feb 2020 to Feb 2024
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:14 PM
Mar 27

so many of them died from COVID to own the libs, were Russian bots, or some may have wised up to the reality that right wing media is feeding them lies.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
26. I think head is misleading. NYT is down just as much as Fox. Wash Post is down far more than either of them.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:24 PM
Mar 27

It's not just a rightwing thing. Maybe people just aren't reading news sites as much.

yardwork

(61,619 posts)
35. WaPo is a moderate publication with plenty of liberal points of view.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:46 PM
Mar 27

I think people are just getting fatigued with news.

Think. Again.

(8,142 posts)
36. The "center" has been allowed to be dragged so far to the right...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:52 PM
Mar 27

....that "Moderate" is the new shockingly anti-liberal.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
42. Seriously? You're going to put NYT and WP in the same category as Newsmax et al?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:25 PM
Mar 27

(Newsmax being the only source listed that has actually grown online readership.)

I'm not saying NYT is a beacon of the left, but they are certainly not RW a la brietbart.

Think. Again.

(8,142 posts)
45. Yeah, I wasn't comparing how far right they are to each other.....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:36 PM
Mar 27

...just using a basic left, right, or factual scale.

So yes, "right" is the category I put them in.

OnlinePoker

(5,720 posts)
37. I'd like to see a similar data load for left wing sites
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:00 PM
Mar 27

I think people have stopped trusting a large portion of the media space right now because of misinformation fatigue. It wouldn't even matter if left wing sites are fully factual in their reporting. The perception now is there's nobody you can trust.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
41. Look at the chart, the data is there for non-RW sites as well (left and moderate)
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:17 PM
Mar 27

That's why I said the headline doesn't match the data, because non RW-readership is down too (consistent with your point as well).

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
79. That "perception of no one you can trust"
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 11:10 AM
Mar 28

is what those in the GQP and other adversarial countries or leaders want us to do to get the citizenry confused and not to trust anything we read or listen too. Out of the playbook.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
57. Both NYT and WaPo are dogging their paywalls
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:24 PM
Mar 27

I used to read them both regularly without buying a subscription.

Nowadays I can only read the NYT and WaPo articles that someone posts on DU.

SWBTATTReg

(22,125 posts)
28. Lots of competition out there for the viewing public. Plus, this right-wing hate stuff is getting boring and
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 01:29 PM
Mar 27

repetitive. Like tRUMP. Boring and repetitive, old and out of date.

John Farmer

(82 posts)
39. I used to go to (and post regularly)
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:01 PM
Mar 27

on a couple of right-wing forums. After a combined 18,000 posts one forum folded and the other banned me.

Torchlight

(3,339 posts)
49. I'm hoping that it boils down to Rage-For-Profit has finally hit its peak.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 02:59 PM
Mar 27

A major reason we've just never gotten into cable news (besides the weird personality cults that have developed) is that we're both kids of watching rational, even-keeled, boring even, news for 30 minutes after dinner growing up. Grown-up news. News as adults do it. Cable news thee days comes across as channel after channel of tantrums, displays of emotion, hosts sanctimoniously and consistently moralizing about someone else's kids, etc. Drama. Soap operas. Yelling. Name-calling. Same form and function as the Banana Splits show I used to watch growing up as kid.,

Near the end of life, Cronkite said his most embarrassing professional moment was losing it when Apollo 11 touched down on the moon. Though he also said he had every right as a human to express himself as such, he reiterated that he had a larger obligation as a journalist to maintain as much objectivity as he possibly could, and he said he failed to do that. I'd be preyty happy if the Personality Cults of Cable News get replaced with something boring. Adult even.

liberalla

(9,248 posts)
50. K&R
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 03:21 PM
Mar 27

This sounds like good news. I want to go over the data more thoroughly when I'm not on the bus!

Thanks!

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
55. I think a bunch migrated to social media ...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:47 PM
Mar 27

I can't back that up.
It's feeling I get when I'm on social media.

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
56. More on social media
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:04 PM
Mar 27

YouTube, FaceBook and such. So we shouldn't get distracted, we all have to try and swing a few votes over. We have to keep in simple Joe had decades of experience, he passed two of the biggest spending on growth bills ever. Bigger than the New Deal, Eisenhower and the Great Society together and adjusted for inflation. It would have been bigger and better if not for the campaign finance issues that gave us Manchin and Senemia. Tax cuts for the rich and wealthy haven't worked. It's time to cut the taxes for the majority of Americans and make the wealthy pay up. This isn't to 'redistribute' but to boost economic activity over a certain income spending slows and gets inefficient.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
70. I've noticed in a few local and state reddits that...
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 04:51 AM
Mar 28

...there is an increasing number of contributors complaining about the politicization of those threads. Like, "why is this reddit always talking about politics". Everybody knows that reddit has always been very liberal and maybe these are uneasy lurkers? But the recent uptick in people who "just want to know about restaurants and festivals and other fun and interesting things to do" seems somehow to be organized.

Has anyone else noticed this in their state/local reddits??

It's obvious that they are right of center and want to shut down political thought, although they seldom really espouse or advocate outright for conservative viewpoints.

 

Mountainguy

(537 posts)
61. It probavly just means
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 08:02 PM
Mar 27

They have decided those are too liberal and fou d something crazier to watch. Notice that Newsmax is up.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
63. The Message Stagnated
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:55 PM
Mar 27

Witch hunt, never proven, got boring. The high tops may have been the last straw - along with the strong State of the Union address by President Biden.

67. Lies Get Old And Tired
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 02:22 AM
Mar 28

RW outrage media is very unpleasant and hurts the soul. Their hatred needs to be turned back on them.

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