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I give up. (Original Post) New Breed Leader Mar 25 OP
It's not over PatSeg Mar 25 #1
Yes it is. It's done. New Breed Leader Mar 25 #2
No it is not. Your opinion/speculation is not fact. emulatorloo Mar 25 #12
He gets away with far more than he should PatSeg Mar 25 #15
Oh good grief! hamsterjill Mar 25 #19
I understand PatSeg Mar 25 #21
So are his freaking followers! hamsterjill Mar 25 #34
Catastrophic climate change will take care of much of this Kaleva Mar 25 #39
Because nobody listened in 2000 hamsterjill Mar 25 #40
Yes, it would certainly look like a different world PatSeg Mar 25 #42
I blame it all on Republicans. hamsterjill Mar 25 #43
I include apathetic complacent people PatSeg Mar 25 #44
I include apathetic complacent people PatSeg Mar 25 #45
"It's always coming...but somehow never comes." New Breed Leader Mar 25 #35
No claudette Mar 25 #9
False adverrtising "...with liberty and JUSTICE for all".......except Donald J. Trump Ping Tung Mar 25 #23
I know it feels like it PatSeg Mar 25 #24
I agree. But it's damned frustrating to see him get anohter break tha Ping Tung Mar 25 #30
Oh yes, very frustrating PatSeg Mar 25 #33
I yawn at doomers ... when I'm not condemning doomism. Doomism attacks Democrats and democracy. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 25 #3
A lot of people trying to convince us that there is no point in voting AZSkiffyGeek Mar 25 #28
I'm not giving up on voting. Far from it New Breed Leader Mar 25 #36
I feel the same... Under The Radar Mar 25 #4
When it comes to Trump, lower your expectations. dalton99a Mar 25 #5
Anyone else would have been tried and convicted years ago on a shred of the evidence against trump BSdetect Mar 25 #6
In a normal country, the traitor would be languishing in a jail cell dalton99a Mar 25 #10
Absolutely! RKP5637 Mar 25 #26
This would have toasted anyone else to a fucking crisp. CrispyQ Mar 25 #27
Me, too claudette Mar 25 #7
I've never had a single expectation he's ever have to pay NewHendoLib Mar 25 #8
You are very forgetful. Not a single exception at all? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 25 #14
Minor flesh wounds for him. NewHendoLib Mar 25 #17
Whatever. It makes your post title false. Please quit using false dichotomies. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 25 #18
Yes, often memories tend to be selective PatSeg Mar 25 #20
WWASCD (What Would A Shithole Country Do)? RockRaven Mar 25 #11
Shithole countries drag them behind the police station and put a bullet in their brain AZSkiffyGeek Mar 25 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 25 #13
I feel the same way. hamsterjill Mar 25 #16
It sure feels like it Bettie Mar 25 #22
I feel the same, but let's allow the process to proceed as we may be surprised and No one is above the law iluvtennis Mar 25 #25
I made a post the other day about how those who gloat & laugh last, elocs Mar 25 #29
bullshit bigtree Mar 25 #31
Way too many Democrats & those on the Left have unrealistic expectations elocs Mar 25 #32
What exactly are you giving up? Kaleva Mar 25 #37
He's getting everything he wants from a system so tied up with red tape that it can't move. lees1975 Mar 25 #41

PatSeg

(48,285 posts)
15. He gets away with far more than he should
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:31 PM
Mar 25

But no, he does not and will not get away with everything. There will be accountability, but not necessarily in the time or way that we want.

hamsterjill

(15,238 posts)
19. Oh good grief!
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:33 PM
Mar 25

How many years now have I read posts like this on DU.

It’s always coming…but somehow never comes.

hamsterjill

(15,238 posts)
34. So are his freaking followers!
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:04 PM
Mar 25

More so than yesterday. So we’re going to be dealing with idiots that are crazier tomorrow than they are today. But we are till going to have to deal with them.

Dems need to start getting creative in whatever way they can!

Kaleva

(36,527 posts)
39. Catastrophic climate change will take care of much of this
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:28 PM
Mar 25

Regardless of what happens to Trump or who wins this fall, tend of millions, maybe hundreds of millions will die and many more will face extreme hardship.

While some here are upset about an overcooked roast creating smoke in the kitchen, a few of us are concerned about the raging, fast approaching forest fire coming over the hills.

Keep things in perspective

hamsterjill

(15,238 posts)
40. Because nobody listened in 2000
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:58 PM
Mar 25

If Al had been President, we might have had a chance. At least we would have been 24 years ahead of where we are now on climate change.

I’m not arguing with you. But there is going to be a lot of suffering before the earth cooks. I’d rather have someone at the helm who cares about that as opposed to some crazy asshole who enjoys seeing suffering.

PatSeg

(48,285 posts)
42. Yes, it would certainly look like a different world
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 05:19 PM
Mar 25

if Al Gore had been elected President in 2000. I know we can't blame everything on republicans, but they definitely get the lion's share of the blame. Whenever we try to move forward, they're always pulling us backwards.

PatSeg

(48,285 posts)
44. I include apathetic complacent people
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 08:06 PM
Mar 25

who can't be bothered to pay attention or get involved. They aren't necessarily republicans and there are lots of them. They are not bad people, but through their disinterest, they unwittingly let bad things happen.

If they realized what the stakes are, most of them probably would become engaged, but they are living in their own worlds and don't see the storm coming. At a different time in my life, I likely could be one of them.

PatSeg

(48,285 posts)
45. I include apathetic complacent people
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 08:06 PM
Mar 25

who can't be bothered to pay attention or get involved. They aren't necessarily republicans and there are lots of them. They are not bad people, but through their disinterest, they unwittingly let bad things happen.

If they realized what the stakes are, most of them probably would become engaged, but they are living in their own worlds and don't see the storm coming. At a different time in my life, I likely could be one of them.

PatSeg

(48,285 posts)
33. Oh yes, very frustrating
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 01:46 PM
Mar 25

I've never seen anything quite like it. Such a stupid, careless, mean-spirited man, one would think he would have fallen a long time ago. In his case, it apparently will take longer, but it will be unforgettable, which is important. We absolutely can never forget, because we have so much to lose. At least for one or two generations, hopefully we will not take it for granted again.

New Breed Leader

(628 posts)
36. I'm not giving up on voting. Far from it
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:09 PM
Mar 25

In fact that's the only way we're going to be able to finally get rid of him in November.

It's the courts I'm giving up on.

Under The Radar

(3,409 posts)
4. I feel the same...
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:14 PM
Mar 25

I am starting to get pissed at the news outlets for getting my hopes up, that finally the system is going to bring this beast to justice, but somehow there is a loop hole that the system opens for him.

BSdetect

(9,012 posts)
6. Anyone else would have been tried and convicted years ago on a shred of the evidence against trump
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:15 PM
Mar 25

Is he above the law? Sure seems so.

NewHendoLib

(60,068 posts)
8. I've never had a single expectation he's ever have to pay
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:16 PM
Mar 25

the best way to predict the future is to look at the past.

He has escaped his whole life.

The rot runs very, very deep.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,272 posts)
14. You are very forgetful. Not a single exception at all?
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:30 PM
Mar 25

Trump "University" settlement.

Trump charity Foundation forced to close.

Bankruptcies.

I'm sure there' more if I looked it up. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump


PatSeg

(48,285 posts)
20. Yes, often memories tend to be selective
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:36 PM
Mar 25

He has not been held accountable according to our standards, but he has been held accountable and he will be again in the future.

Just because Trump is always bragging about being a "winner", we need to remember how often he has been a huge loser. Thanks for pointing that out.

RockRaven

(15,267 posts)
11. WWASCD (What Would A Shithole Country Do)?
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:20 PM
Mar 25

When it comes to TFG and "justice" it's always shithole country style.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,295 posts)
38. Shithole countries drag them behind the police station and put a bullet in their brain
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:14 PM
Mar 25

Then dump the body in an unmarked grave. Is that what you want?

Response to New Breed Leader (Original post)

hamsterjill

(15,238 posts)
16. I feel the same way.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:32 PM
Mar 25

I expect him to be President again because I don’t see anyone stopping him.

Am I a doomer? Tell me why I shouldn’t be after watching this sonofabitch get away with everything so far.

iluvtennis

(20,013 posts)
25. I feel the same, but let's allow the process to proceed as we may be surprised and No one is above the law
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:47 PM
Mar 25

is actually true for the USA.

elocs

(22,744 posts)
29. I made a post the other day about how those who gloat & laugh last,
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 01:02 PM
Mar 25

gloat & laugh best but with Trump we way too often disregard that kind of advice and to think that what's going to happen to Trump will happen NOW. Wrong!!! The only thing that Trump is the master of is delay, yet the hyperbole of how it's all over for Trump now is rampant.
Realistic people should have seen this coming.

bigtree

(86,222 posts)
31. bullshit
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 01:05 PM
Mar 25

...not one of the felony charges against him have been reduced or removed, in any court.


Not even the civil judgement has been reduced, only the bond he has to put up before a dubious appeal.

Get a grip.

elocs

(22,744 posts)
32. Way too many Democrats & those on the Left have unrealistic expectations
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 01:08 PM
Mar 25

about just what will happen to Trump and when it will happen. If anything, Trump is the master of delay. No, he is not above the law..., yet, but he certainly does get special treatment that nobody else would never get which makes it seem as though he is above the law.
Beat Trump at the polls in November and then just watch how quickly the worm will turn on him being a loser again.

Kaleva

(36,527 posts)
37. What exactly are you giving up?
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:10 PM
Mar 25

About the only thing you can give up is voting on election day. Are you not going to vote? If you still plan on voting, you are not giving up.

lees1975

(4,026 posts)
41. He's getting everything he wants from a system so tied up with red tape that it can't move.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 03:54 PM
Mar 25

So far, we have indictments reduced, delay, delay, delay, delay, stall, waiting on a Supreme Court ruling on immunity that's never coming, from the most corrupt court in history. When Rush Limbaugh advocated for stuffing our justice system with corrupt, conservative judges who all are appointed for life, he knew conservatives cannot win electoral politics. And so here we are, a broken justice system that is from a completely different part of America than the one in which the rest of us live.

In a system designed to fail to bring any wealthy, powerful or influential person to justice, he's got the advantage. We are powerless.

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