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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:00 PM Nov 2012

U.S. Election Speeded Move to Codify Policy on Drones

Facing the possibility that President Obama might not win a second term, his administration accelerated work in the weeks before the election to develop explicit rules for the targeted killing of terrorists by unmanned drones, so that a new president would inherit clear standards and procedures, according to two administration officials.

The matter may have lost some urgency after Nov. 6. But with more than 300 drone strikes and some 2,500 people killed by the Central Intelligence Agency and the military since Mr. Obama first took office, the administration is still pushing to make the rules formal and resolve internal uncertainty and disagreement about exactly when lethal action is justified.

Mr. Obama and his advisers are still debating whether remote-control killing should be a measure of last resort against imminent threats to the United States, or a more flexible tool, available to help allied governments attack their enemies or to prevent militants from controlling territory.

Though publicly the administration presents a united front on the use of drones, behind the scenes there is longstanding tension. The Defense Department and the C.I.A. continue to press for greater latitude to carry out strikes; Justice Department and State Department officials, and the president’s counterterrorism adviser, John O. Brennan, have argued for restraint, officials involved in the discussions say.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/world/white-house-presses-for-drone-rule-book.html?hp&_r=0

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U.S. Election Speeded Move to Codify Policy on Drones (Original Post) cal04 Nov 2012 OP
When I put this together with the Nobel Peace Prize undeterred Nov 2012 #1
This is a discussion WE, THE PEOPLE should be having WITH them. loudsue Nov 2012 #2
Agreed. Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #4
+10000000 And it's a damned pattern. woo me with science Nov 2012 #9
"available to help allied governments attack their enemies" Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #3
In ten years they'll be going after parking ticket violators with drones Fumesucker Nov 2012 #5
bush war crimes bad, obama's war crimes = "clear standards and procedures" nt msongs Nov 2012 #6
War Crimes! reusrename Nov 2012 #7
Thank you. nt woo me with science Nov 2012 #10
K&R woo me with science Nov 2012 #8
Kick. This is important. nt woo me with science Nov 2012 #11
This is important for purposes of improving productivity jsr Nov 2012 #12

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
2. This is a discussion WE, THE PEOPLE should be having WITH them.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:05 PM
Nov 2012

They need to quit doing this shit on the sly.

Ms. Toad

(34,127 posts)
4. Agreed.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:09 PM
Nov 2012

The willingness to use drones is one of the reasons I had a hard time motivating myself to vote for President Obama.

Ultimately, I had domestic policy reasons to support his re-election - so I found a way to be involved in helping to ensure his re-election that did not require me to actively campaign for him (I spent around 90 hours on voter protection).

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
3. "available to help allied governments attack their enemies"
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:08 PM
Nov 2012

Hmmm, very curious statement.

How long until that mentality is justifiable in the US?

What constitutes an "enemy of the State" and why should we care who that is in other countries?

Sounds a lot like assasins for hire.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. In ten years they'll be going after parking ticket violators with drones
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:18 PM
Nov 2012

Better hope you like being under surveillance 24/7/365 because that's what's coming.

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