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Ohioboy

(3,248 posts)
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:42 PM Mar 9

For all the Magats out there who think it's great Trump likes the way Orban leads Hungary...

It never gets mentioned, but Hungary has some very strict gun laws. Your guy Trump loves him an autocrat who would trash your favorite right if he had his way.

I think it's purposely being kept from you just how embracing autocracy can backfire. They tell you what you want to hear about taking away the rights of others, but leave out the parts you won't want to hear. Just saying.


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dchill

(38,577 posts)
1. "...purposely being kept from you..." Or, conversely...
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:45 PM
Mar 9

... change the channel. They deliberately participate in their own deception.

Ohioboy

(3,248 posts)
3. Yes they actively participate
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:59 PM
Mar 9

If magats actually understood freedom they would embrace it for all, even those they don't agree with. Anything less is not actual freedom.

NCDem47

(2,252 posts)
5. U.S. and Hungary are apples and oranges on every level. Magats need to settle their fever dream.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 06:08 PM
Mar 9

Hungary is the size of Indiana and the population of greater Chicago. Nothing about Orban can be scaled to the U.S. We're just too damn diverse.

ProfessorGAC

(65,289 posts)
16. It Has Calmed Dramatically
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 08:39 PM
Mar 9

A year ago this month, it was in fact, measured at 25.6%.
Also, that spike wasn't from late '22 to early '23
I have to question that 5 year average, too.
From these data, there are no zero or negative values, and from Jan22 to November23 (23 months) the low was 7.9%, the high was 26.2% & 9 months were 20% or higher. (Sum = 220.5)
8 more months were between 10 & 19%. (Sum = 116.6)
If all the other 43 months were zero, the average is still well over 5%. (337/60 months is 5.6%)
That 3.8% over 5 years can't be correct.
But right now, their inflation rate is fairly modest.
BTW: these are the same data you used. Take an extra look.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/hungary_inflation_rate#:~:text=Hungary%20Inflation%20Rate%20is%20at,long%20term%20average%20of%206.31%25.

AloeVera

(998 posts)
19. I have family there.
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 12:06 AM
Mar 10

It's a shit show there. Huge hikes for utilities and food. Subsidies for basic food items but that leads to shortages. Pensioners and low-income people are suffering, in spite of pension increases. Not enough.

I would say 25% is not far off, for sure for food and utilities.

peppertree

(21,692 posts)
13. What a slacker! Trump's other suck buddy, Argentina's Milei, has doubled it to 280%
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 08:14 PM
Mar 9

To say nothing of a generalized business collapse.

Were he running America, there'd be Mad Max-style mayhem and riots by now.

MadameButterfly

(1,073 posts)
6. You just hit on the issue that Biden needs to run on
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 06:52 PM
Mar 9

All the MAGATS thinking autocracy is OK need to understand they are voting for the end of gun rights.

They're ok with Putin invading Ukraine, reporters and oligarchs falling out of windows, imprisoning dissenters, but tell them they can't own a gun anymore, and maybe they'll wake up.

bdamomma

(63,940 posts)
8. They would
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 06:56 PM
Mar 9

go off the deep end, i Orange Pus Thug confiscates their guns. But he wants Americans to kill other Americans.

Irish_Dem

(47,552 posts)
10. These are some of the most pampered, entitled people in the world.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 07:30 PM
Mar 9

They would not last 2 weeks under a ruthless dictatorship.

NCDem47

(2,252 posts)
11. And how are Rs going to feel when Trump confiscates /dilutes their assets?
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 07:45 PM
Mar 9

Don’t think he wouldn’t do it to lifelong Republicans.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
17. Fascism is evil.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 08:40 PM
Mar 9

While democracy may seem to take longer to get results, it's because it is committed to the rights and well being of it's citizens. A fascist dictatorship does none of those things and that is what Donald Dump has promised his ignorant moron voters.

Golden Raisin

(4,614 posts)
18. I wonder how many of them could identify Hungary on a map.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 10:09 PM
Mar 9

Or if they have any real clue who Orban is and what his policies are.

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